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[NX Gamer] AC: Valhalla - XsX vs PS5 - The first REAL head to head battle.

jonnyp

Member
Caught up in brand and blind to reality. Overhyping the shit out of PR buzzwords and mediocre features.

iu
 

geordiemp

Member
Series X gpu faster with way more memory bandwidth. There's nothing misleading about it.


CPU also bit faster


Full RDNA 2 12 TF GPU @1.82 ghz with 52 CUs

Vs


Custom RDNA Upto 10.2TF (from 9.2tf) @ 2.3ghz with 32 CUs


Memory-

X - 16gb ddr6 with 320gb bit vs PS5- 16gb ddr6 256 bit bus



X vs PS5
Memory Bandwidth10 GB @ 560 GB/s, 6GB @ 336 GB/s448GB/s



Ac Valhalla on SX just not properly optimized and not true representation of SX power. All Xbox versions suffers from screen tearing means they ported one version across all Xbox systems. Its not made for SX from ground up



Sorry but I love this GIF, only chance I get to use it
 
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geordiemp

Member
The video is 13 min, i post it like 5 min ago, can you plz watch the thing then reply

I read the summary and watched the heavy scenes, he makes no analysis of frame rates or resolution, and translations say he thinks they look similar.

He is not DF or NXgamer or a tech analysis site, and they think its 4K so I may as well watch gamespot....

Putting a 4K label on the bottom of a screen does not make XSX 4K :messenger_beaming: ....so funny

So whats your point exactly ?
 
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Gediminas

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I read the summary and watched the heavy scenes, he makes no analysis of frame rates or resolution, and translations say he thinks they look similar.

He is not DF or NXgamer or a tech analysis site, and they think its 4K so I may as well watch gamespot....

So whats your point exactly ?
he is like that dude, golem or whatever his names was, who made up some things to counter positive PS5 news in favor of xbox. this looks like one of those 🤡 :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Achille0s

Member
I read the summary and watched the heavy scenes, he makes no analysis of frame rates or resolution, and translations say he thinks they look similar.

He is not DF or NXgamer or a tech analysis site, and they think its 4K so I may as well watch gamespot....

So whats your point exactly ?
The image on the series x is more clean with more details, the lighting part start at 8.35 you can see a difference in the reflection at the water
 
Great video even it's in german



This show the Xbox series x as the best looking version


Yes. He even says that XSX is loading faster than PS5.

What a horrible video. They didn't even bother to check the resolution and now they have Xbox fans in Germany thinking the XSX is 2x as powerful as the PS5 lol.

It‘s a good video. Only because the author doesn’t want to lick Sony’s arse, doesn’t mean it’s a bad video.
 

Allandor

Member
The image on the series x is more clean with more details, the lighting part start at 8.35 you can see a difference in the reflection at the water
Overall the image looks to be sharper on the xbox. In some videos (gamespot) this is even more obvious.
It more or less looks like there is a post-process filter on PS5 that is not on the xbox version. But might just be the different weather conditions.
 

geordiemp

Member
The image on the series x is more clean with more details, the lighting part start at 8.35 you can see a difference in the reflection at the water

Maybe you should open up your own you tube channel doing tech analysis to favour XSX ?

Or we will use the usual reputable channels thanks who do this work for a living and are good at it. There is variable time of day to take into account and weather.

Add in console settings for colour brightness and capture card settings ...................................
 
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Zheph

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Yes. He even says that XSX is loading faster than PS5.



It‘s a good video. Only because the author doesn’t want to lick Sony’s arse, doesn’t mean it’s a bad video.
they said in the comments:
"We are not talking about "overpowering" at all. Our verdict at the end of the video is that we can see no quality difference in Valhalla between PS5 and Xbox Series X."

Shame they don't check the fps... I wish we had videos for that like VGTech or NX Gamer...
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
I think so, I'm not on my pc right now but i took this from the video on my mobile, I think is a good exemple for the difference

They are the same, here is a 800% to help:

XSX

xsx.png


PS5

ps5.png


EDIT: Actually looking at again, PS5 seems to be sharper and more detailed with XSX having finer details mushed. Look at the scar under his left eye (on the right). Seems the source on PS5 is coming from a higher resolution.
 
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Caio

Member
curious to see what this playstaion lover has to say

This :

Performance basically identical

Dynamic resolution counted as low as 1440p on XsX and 1620p PS5 but he thinks it drops as low as 1440p too. Basically identical

- Both are quite good at keeping 60FPS (in the area he tested)
- PS5 is vsynced, XSX is not
- Denamic res on both with ~1440p as the lowest limit (seen on XSX)
- PS5 loads 12% faster LOL Power of the SSD
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Genuine question. Is there a problem with black crush in XSX captures? I've noticed overly dark videos for DMC and and Valhalla. Having flashbacks to 360 black crushed comparisons.

I think both have different color mapping, with Sony having reference monitor for TV's and known to have the most accurately colored tv's out of the box with best image processing. So a slight advantage in that isn't surprising, but could be corrected via firmware updates if it's not a hardware thing.
 

John Wick

Member
Custom RDNA Upto 10.2TF (from 9.2tf) @ 2.3ghz with 32 CUs

He can't get anymore stupid, I guess.
No game in existence uses both CPU and GPU 100% at the same time for any extended period of time. Only synthetic benchmark tests can get close to doing that.
It's been made clear the PS5 adjusts frequency and powerdraw on a frame by frame basis multiple times.
It's just bad faith arguements with no intention of being fair and reasonable.
 

longdi

Banned
So? They are different products. The PS5 is designed to work in boost mode as long as the application needs it. I’d prefer if it is a 9TF machine, tho. That way is more humiliating when a game performs worse in a machine 33% more powerful. Talk about efficiency!

Different products but same dna base from tsmc 7nm. It is a pity Amd cannot get 6800 to run continous boost clocks at 2.1ghz, will give it a nicer 18.5Tf instead of 16Tf.

I wonder if Phil can, to make SX a bit taller, wider, say 35x35x35, slap in a bigger vapor chamber, a bigger 380W psu, and push it to variable boost clocks, say 2.1ghz, will give it a nicer round 14Tf, and of course a higher tide raises all SX boats too.

But It is early days to call out on humiliation imo. :messenger_moon: :messenger_ok:
 
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Achille0s

Member
Maybe you should open up your own you tube channel doing tech analysis to favour XSX ?

Or we will use the usual reputable channels thanks who do this work for a living and are good at it. There is variable time of day to take into account and weather.

Add in console settings for colour brightness and capture card settings ...................................
I'll think about it 😜
 

Achille0s

Member
Actually looking at again, PS5 seems to be sharper and more detailed with XSX having finer details mushed. Look at the scar under his left eye (on the right). Seems the source on PS5 is coming from a higher resolution.

A Achille0s
Yes in your photo the ps5 version has better texture quality but it's from the op video i don't trust them, I think it's better to wait the DF video we all know that they are the best
 

John Wick

Member
Different products but same dna base from tsmc 7nm. It is a pity Amd cannot get 6800 to run continous boost clocks at 2.1ghz, will give it a nicer 18.5Tf instead of 16Tf.

I wonder if Phil can, to make SX a bit taller, wider, say 35x35x35, slap in a bigger vapor chamber, a bigger 380W psu, and push it to variable boost clocks, say 2.1ghz, will give it a nicer round 14Tf, and of course a higher tide raises all SX boats too.

But It is early days to call out on humiliation imo. :messenger_moon: :messenger_ok:
Are you stupid or are you deliberately being dense?
Do you think you know better than Mark Cerny and developers?
A 10% drop in power only yealds a few percent drop in frequency. So what do you think the PS5 GPU will drop down to 1.8ghz???
It won't come to that because its already been explained to you but you just love spreading fud.
Yet easily make excuses as to why series X isn't performing in Valhalla as it's theoretical spec sheet suggests
 
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