GHG
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At this point "wait" should be the slogan for Xbox, nevermind power your dreams.
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[NX Gamer] AC: Valhalla - XsX vs PS5 - The first REAL head to head battle.
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At this point "wait" should be the slogan for Xbox, nevermind power your dreams.
SLB1904
Banned
Now we wait? Before these consoles were out people were saying ps5 is weak and making shit up.
Its 2-0 now deal with it
sircaw
Banned
PS5 graphics advantage: (note: 1440p screenshots)
Xbox Series X:
Timestamped:
Are they meant to both be the same res cos the top one looks so much nicer, sharper, bare in mind my 50 old eyes suck big time, what am i missing here
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Texture resolution on character model is much higher quality on PS5, according to these shots.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
The things you are mentioning are personal opinions.
Games doesn't load faster. Some a few seconds faster on ps5, and vice versa.
Best controller. Some people prefer the shape of a dualsense, others a xbox controller.
Better UI features. Which? From what I understood ps5 doesn't even have quick resume by a thread in here. Also the bc is very buggy atm.
Also, must've been a mistake about the equal performance. People here are pinpointing color pixels as way better on ps5, and I was told by Cerny that the ssd in ps5 is the fastest thing we've ever seen.
I'm not going to get either. Have a PC, Microsofts games comes there, and I don't care about ps games so I don't have a foot in either camp. Just before getting slammed with some fanboy slirs.
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Zheph
Member
Yeah it’s a bitter pill to swallow I guess, sorry I should have been sweeter in my messaging, keep your head up
Md Ray
Member
GHG
Member
We all know that the best version is and always will be:
PC
Yep.
The things I really want to know are what resolution these consoles typically run the game at and what the equivalent PC settings are.
Basically, what sacrifices have had to be made to (mostly) maintain 60fps.
It will shut a lot of people up saying that the console versions are better than PC because of 4k 60fps. If you've seen my screenshots of the game in the PC screenshot thread you will immediately be able to see that there's no way these consoles are running the game at max settings.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I think people posting about winning, is all the crap that was said about the PS5 and not being RDNA 2, lower TFs, etc. everyone on the green side thought the blue side was in for a beating this generation, but it looks like the PS5 is a good engineered piece of equipment, right along side the XBox.
That’s the way it looks to me, from the outside looking in. I do not war, but I’m pretty sure I’m right, as the next gen speculation thread is full of it.
Ic3man
Member
I don't care who wins, I just prefer their videos.
SLB1904
Banned
John already declared the ps5 version superior. It shouldn't have happened in the first place
Bo_Hazem
Banned
XSX one shows signs of banding behind the character as well = 8-bit?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Exactly. That would be an interesting comparison, since XSX and PS5 are pretty much the same and talking about it for 10 minutes is just a bore fest.
I've seen your screenshots and they are gorgeous. I'm playing Valhalla at the moment and I would like to take some screens myself but I don't want to scarify the HDR.
What settings are you running it on? I disabled the motion blur (as always) and dropped anti-aliasing as it seems to do fuck all in 4k and I'm getting ~60FPS and it runs like a dream on a Gsync TV.Dude, what are you on about?
BigLee74
Member
So all the back slapping and fellating is because PS5 has equal performance? As said, weird!
Big take is a pretty solid 60 fps. Such a game changer!
Barakov
Gold Member
PS5 graphics advantage: (note: 1440p screenshots)
Xbox Series X:
Timestamped:
Everybody who said the teraflops didn't matter were right. The difference in detail is pretty stark.
sircaw
Banned
Don't be disengenous, you know what this is about.
Months and months of pure bullshit fud against the ps5 has finally come home to roost.
Blood Borne
Member
Absolutely nothing. I really believe there will be little or no difference, kinda like Pro vs X, maybe even less. Just think this launch cross gen game isn’t indicative.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I don’t make the rules, I was just explaining why I believe people are excited. I’m pretty stoked both consoles are hitting 60 FPS. I’m mainly a PC gamer, so it doesn’t matter to me who wins. I just use my PS5 for exclusives, as my PC plays games better.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
longdi
Banned
PS5 devkits are just far far ahead over Xbox for now.
Thats how PS5 is making up ground and punching above its weight, as Richard hinted too, as we seen numerous clues already.
Lets wait a bit longer when devs get a foothold of Xbox development, shall we?
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megreotsugua
Banned
Probably the texture-blurring feature called VRS.
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GHG
Member
I've seen your screenshots and they are gorgeous. I'm playing Valhalla at the moment and I would like to take some screens myself but I don't want to scarify the HDR.
For the screenshots it's everything max at 80% of 4k (including AA and motion blur which I've never had a problem with). At those settings I typically get around 40-50fps (and 60fps in the "lighter" areas of the game) on a 2070 super which isn't too shabby at all.
When I want mostly 60fps I still use 80% of 4k and turn AA down a notch, shadows to high, volumetric clouds to high and depth of field to low.
Killer8
Member
Some of these differences seem like they could be due to how the XSX HDR has been tonemapped. If you adjust the color balance and brightness slightly in Photoshop, they look similarly detailed.
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Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Feel free to look through his video list, it speaks for itself. I like him well enough, but he doesn't really focus on Xbox much or at all.
DF haven't even started comparing the two
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I can agree with that. I think both boxes have their positives and negatives. It just comes down to your personal preference at this point.PS5 devkits are just far far ahead over Xbox for now.
Thats how PS5 is making up ground and punching above its weight, as Richard hinted too, as we seen numerous clues already.
Lets wait a bit longer when devs get a foothold of Xbox development, shall we?
Rea
Member
Mind you, those 36 CUs of ps5 equivalent to 58cus of ps4 pro.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
There you have it. Big bad DF will do Valhalla video after all. Who would have thought?!?!
He he. Oops. ^^^Denial is not just a river in Egypt i see
You might find this guide interesting:
Zheph
Member
It is the same for PS5 kit tho, they are a bit more ready but they will also improve with time
GenericUser
Member
I'm so glad the PS5 is doing so well. It would suck to have another ps3/360 situation where the PS3 was soooo far behind, it was laughable. I remember Black Ops 1 running at around 45 frames on the PS3 where the 360 version was constant 60. Don't even get me started about skyrim of battlefield. This gen will be great for me. Super happy with what sony delivered here. Xbox fans can also be happy, super good load times as well and top performance.
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regawdless
Banned
PS5 devkits are just far far ahead over Xbox for now.
Thats how PS5 is making up ground and punching above its weight, as Richard hinted too, as we seen numerous clues already.
Lets wait a bit longer when devs get a foothold of Xbox development, shall we?
Nah, that would make way too much sense and it'd be boring as hell. We want to see blood and spectacle, therefore pls stop with such weird suggestions.
Now to the real question: which console has the higher quality pixels? We demand answers!
Agnostic2020
Member
There you have it. Big bad DF will do Valhalla video after all. Who would have thought?!?!
He he. Oops. ^^^
You might find this guide interesting:
What gave u the idea we thought DF wouldn't do comparison ? In that tweet he said i m not working on it right now. Doesn't mean he is not working on it tomorrow or the day after
Zheph
Member
Bo_Hazem
Banned
massivekettle
Member
Relax...
We’re talking about one game, a launch game, and likely a pretty poorly optimised launch game at that (judging from Ubi’s track record)
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Xbox has a marketing deal with this mediocre game, AC. I imagine the Series X version was optimised above the PS5s, yet it still performs worse. The gap will likely grow in PS5 marketed titles, and when devs optimise for the secret sauce Geometry Engine as the gen goes on.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
I said: John is working on Demon's Soul comparison video. What he means is that most likely there's someone else from the DF team working on Valhalla. What's the breaking news here?
And you in your never ending wisdom told me that I'm in denial. In denial of what exactly? Please oh please tell me, I need to know.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Weird choice of resolution to do a comparison of a mostly 4k title, to be honest. The whole video feels rushed.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think he faced some problems with XSX sending a proper signal. His PS5 videos are all 4K, not to mention that you can even do internal 4K@60fps HDR on PS5 that is still quite clean in WebM or MP4 (I think the first should be sharper). 30sec sample, pretty impressive and should boost content creators. You can have the system recording the last 15 minutes in 4K@60fps HDR though all the time in case something interesting happened during gameplay without using Share Factory Studio. I have it 1080p/15min on my PS4 Pro.
PS5 Create button 4K HDR 60 fps gameplay capture sample, pretty good!
Seems pretty good and sharp, not as sharp as external recorders I've seen from professional youtube channels reviewing Spiderman and other games, but very good. Seems to be compressed in WebM to save a lot of space: Gives you 4K@60fps HDR record up to 15min. If you want more, you should use...
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GHG
Member
Yeh posted that in another valhalla thread, good guide for when you need to claw back some performance without sacrificing too much visually.
v_iHuGi
Banned
DAMAGE CONTROL! Gap will only WIDEN once devs start using that GE BEAST Custom pipeline!
Xbox went the Pc route but this ain´t Ps3 Gen again, Cerny delivered a Custom solution that completely crushes SX on top of being easy to use (unlike Ps3), First Party tittles difference will be bigger than 360 vs Ps3 Gen, you won´t even need DF to tell you.
Pack it Up.
