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"Cyberpunk 2077 needs 4-5 months of work to be polished and ready" Reddit undercover CDPR dev vetted by Jason Schreier
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TrainedRage
Banned
Do games that go Gold do this regularly? Or is this a rare instance?
Aguero9320
Member
I’m in the ‘delay it until it’s done’ camp too. Don’t understand why people get worked up about delays - they are generally to make things better?
This game is potentially too good to risk fucking it up at this point.
This game is potentially too good to risk fucking it up at this point.
Orthodox Gaming Dad
Member
I heard that these difficulties mainly extended to the current gen colsoles?
Developers would work on something for years if you let them. Always something you can change, improve, refactor or just plain take ages doing.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
These days "going gold" really means "passing cert," ratehr than "final code." Meaning they have the game in a state that is good enough to pass the MS and Sony QA process, meaning the game runs fine without significant crashing. But Day One patches mean they can keep working up to the minute they launch.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
"Fucked up" is a stretch here. "Great but not a masterpiece," and "not bad technically" is what he said.
El Pistolero
Banned
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Yep.
jigglet
Banned
A lot of people are blaming this on bad management etc, but you're all missing a pretty critical part of the picture: CDPR made the mistake of going public to raise funds. They could have done it so many other ways. By going public, they are now under pressure to deliver consistent results to shareholders...and this is why you'll see it pushed out before its ready.
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Mentat02
Banned
CDPR is willing to butcher the whole game to bare bones just to make those big bucks on base versions of the PS4 and XB1. all those people who said CDPR is basically becoming Rockstar 2.0 were spot on. Just look at their priorities, fuck next gen because catering to underpowered hardware is where the money is at. I may joke around about Sony fanboys being rapid but it's undeniable now, Sony is the only game publisher that is pushing for next gen gaming unlike most of these twats who still care about MUH install base.
Eric187
Banned
Yup unfortunately this should be the case. Had they announced in April they needed another year to finish the game most people would of accepted it and moved on pretty quickly. And RDR2 has to be one of the most polished games this generation considering its massive scope. Things like these does leave an impression on whoever plays it and I’m sure CDPR knows it’s reputation is on the line here. No way they want to be compared to Bethesda’s buggy launch titles or mass effect andromeda. I’m sure the pressure is immense and now they know what it’s like to be in the big leagues with a ton of pressure.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I've been saying this for 2 years. If you actually remember what it was like when The Witcher 3 came out, it was pretty much exactly the same thing.
Maddux4164
Member
I keep seeing this in regards to Witcher 3, so obviously there’s merit to it.
I bought It on PC at launch and put over 100+ hours into just the base game. I had Little to no issues. Perhaps the console launch sucked?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Maybe so. I did play on PS4. It's not like it was bad, or I felt ripped off. It worked mostly fine, but even basic stuff like moving around corners was just not feeling super great. They polished the game and put out lots of patches for months, and then put out DLC. That's pretty much what'll happen here. I'm sure the game works fine, but is the melee combat as good as it could be? Maybe not.
ethomaz
Banned
That is not how you build a 100% track record...
And he has one.
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EDMIX
Member
....oh you are serious?
Major Witcher 3 Bug Affecting Saved Games
It has been reported that The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is suffering from a major bug problem.
techraptor.net
https://www.giantbomb.com/forums/th...ps4-game-has-save-corruption-bug-too-1772443/
https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/horse-bugs.37816/
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/05/these_witcher_3_glitches_are_bloody_horrific
https://www.thetechgame.com/Tutorials/id=19124/how-to-fix-witcher-3-no-audio-bug-xbox-one.html
but hey, not completely broken?
Whats sad, is all the bugs listed happened to me, some of them YEARS after patches. I didn't even know a glitch was happening with the sound until I saw a dialog prompt as if someone was suppose to be speaking or something. I restart the save and a fucking whole ass conversation was going on... if I just continued, I would have NEVER known multiple parts of the game on some huge key elements. Now I'm not sure if I hate the story because its shit or if the good parts were just glitched out and never heard..
Vivaldi is one of my favorite characters in the Witcher series, I was sooooo hype to see him in the 3rd game and it was completely ruined in Witcher 3. The fucking man had no face, he just started talking and I was looking around and then you are locked into the dialog, its showing where a person SHOULD BE, but all I see are hands moving and shit! Not completely broken though huh? This game had so many issues, it started to show just how fucking bias the community REALLY was, you guys had no issue talking shit about AC Unity's issues with peoples faces missing and flying in the air etc, yet the same things happened in Witcher 3 and "not completely broken"? It tells me the community as a whole DOESN'T want to be honest about issues in games, they only want to bring them up in games they dislike or publishers they dislike. Suddenly when its happening to CDPR, its "not completely broken". So missing faces, corrupted game saves, horses not crossing the bridge and people randomly flying and shit is now normal in a game suddenly? That tune changed fast as fuck when Witcher 3 launched.
So lets clear this up folks....BOTH AC Unity and Witcher 3 where broken as shit at launch and had no business releasing in that state. So please don't tell me corrupted game saves, broken quest and missing faces is normal...
Flying Toaster
Member
It would be best if they just ignored PS4, XBOX One and went full into next gen. Push the game back a few months polish it and go on. CDPR has spent a lot of time with Witcher 3 post release to get it right and so I figure more time on just new gen would be best.
DonJorginho
Banned
Very rare in recent times
Hawking Radiation
Member
Yep lol.
Quite a few are falling over their feet to wank themselves silly at the though of putting the boot in to Jason.
Doesn't take a slide rule to see there is development issues at the studio.
He's a clown mate. Don't even bother responding to him.
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Lionel Richie
Member
Cuckmeister Schreier is on a cruzade. Stay safe out there CDPR, deliver something halfway decent and I'm there with you to dunk on the naysayers. Maybe a month after release to patch a couple of abominations and shit.
B-universe
Banned
Yes, it was completely broken and mainstream media joined in on a conspiracy and overlooked the fact when they reviewed the game. And gamers. Gamers joined in on the conspiracy as well.
Please insert a smiley in your reply.
You're great at Smiley-ing.
Wait a minute...
You're on record, I repeat, you are here on record as saying you'll be buying and playing Cyberpunk 2077 day 1. If you had such a terrible experience with TW3 - "completely broken" - why would you not wait till 2021 to buy it and play it?
Why?
Ah, honesty.
If you had such a terrible experience with TW3 at launch, then why would you buy and play Cyberpunk 2077 "day 1"?
I can take either of those statements seriously separately, but not both, not simultaneously.
Something doesn't add up.
See above.
Ah, please don't forget to react , or insert, with one of theses :
When arguments fail you, you can always rely on a smiley.
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Katajx
Gold Member
This.
The guy is a snake and he only cares if it fits his agenda. He releases these stories trying to further his personal crusade against crunch.
EDMIX
Member
Pretty much, its sad to see that they don't really seem to have even learned their lesson with that. Usually the second game during a generation is the more polished, solid release and it seems like Witcher 3 wasn't a one off situation, but something fundamentally wrong with either the team or management or both.
Its not normal to have 4 fucking different release dates in 1 year. I don't have an issue with a game being delayed, but something is worrisome when the team or management themselves don't seem to fully understand that. Its as if they have no clue how broken the game is, assume its good, make a release date.....and then are told something is wrong, delay the game and repeat. Something is going on that just doesn't really make sense. Its not that an issue exist, its that the management doesn't seem to have a realistic understanding how long it REALLY takes to correct it and are likely giving a few days for issues that are more like a few MONTHS.
Maddux4164
Member
I love how everyone is all “this game is a broken mess likely..” having never played it and going off a botched console launch of a game in 2015.
Perhaps CDPR has a memory... and is OVERLY cautious to avoid that. Maybe it’s far better optimized currently than TW3 was on Xbone at launch or whatever.
We do not know. Anyone who says Cyberpunk is a broken mess on console is factually making it up and then following it up with “yeah but 2015 TW3 doe..”
Fine. Don’t buy it. Simple. I’ll enjoy it day 1 as I did my 100+ hours of TW3 at launch. Wait a year for patches. Not hard folks.
Perhaps CDPR has a memory... and is OVERLY cautious to avoid that. Maybe it’s far better optimized currently than TW3 was on Xbone at launch or whatever.
We do not know. Anyone who says Cyberpunk is a broken mess on console is factually making it up and then following it up with “yeah but 2015 TW3 doe..”
Fine. Don’t buy it. Simple. I’ll enjoy it day 1 as I did my 100+ hours of TW3 at launch. Wait a year for patches. Not hard folks.
B-universe
Banned
Cyberpunk is not current gen. It's cross-gen.
CDPR even described it as an "almost next-gen" title in their statement.
Maybe that complicates matters?
Think about it while you come up with a reason why you had a terrible experience with TW3 at launch but still plan on buying CP2077 day one.
Possibly.
I reserve judgement for when the game comes out.
But you would?
I keep forgetting you've played it already.
That's certainly possible and plausible.
But alternative explanations exist.
So until evidence surfaces of what's really happening, the rational individual will reserve and withhold judgement.
Of course if one has other motives, one might be tempted to jump to occlusions.
Remember, you said TW3 was "completely broken" at launch and you are planning to buy and play CP2077 "day 1".
That doesn't seem rational to me.
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balls of snow
Member
Well they fucked themeselves if true. Discs are printing and you want to store them in a werehouse for ? months. Leaks will destroy the game.
A.Romero
Member
The only thing I'm taking out of all this controversy is that this game will be amazing. Might not be perfect at launch but is not like they can continue patching for 5 or 6 months down the road. What's the problem? At least they are giving consumers a choice. Those concerned can wait, nobody is putting a gun against our head to get it on day one. Pretend is coming out in June and get it after all the patches.
I got Witcher 3 for PC at launch and had a blast since day 1. They did improve it over time and those expansions were amazing. Might get burned this time but no biggie, I can stop playing if it's not in a state I can enjoy the game until they patch it. Everyone can do that.
I don't get the criticism over selling to previous gens. Does anybody seriously think a publisher can finance 8 years of development by selling to next gen only without GAAS or anything like that? Seriously, get real. Be happy games like this exist.
Most people here have a huge backlog. It's not like there is nothing else to play for the next 5 or 6 months.
I got Witcher 3 for PC at launch and had a blast since day 1. They did improve it over time and those expansions were amazing. Might get burned this time but no biggie, I can stop playing if it's not in a state I can enjoy the game until they patch it. Everyone can do that.
I don't get the criticism over selling to previous gens. Does anybody seriously think a publisher can finance 8 years of development by selling to next gen only without GAAS or anything like that? Seriously, get real. Be happy games like this exist.
Most people here have a huge backlog. It's not like there is nothing else to play for the next 5 or 6 months.
Arachnid
Member
I completed it on both PS4 and Xbox One (the former around 70 hours and the latter around 90), and I never experienced any glitches. I also don't remember many reviews blasting the game for glitches back when I was obsessively going through those at launch. I'm sure plenty of people experienced bugs, but idk about calling the game a buggy mess. CDPR definitely isn't Bethesda in that regard.
That said, CP2077 is definitely a more in-depth game with more moving parts, so I feel like catching everything may end up being an ongoing process. I'll be impressed if CDPR manages to launch it relatively bug free.
balls of snow
Member
Fair, ive played through the entire RDR 2 with broken hdr on ps4 pro.
Digital Gex
Banned
Halo Punk Infinite: Releases in November 2077.
MisterBrimstone
Member
Did you just predict Switch edition for launch day?
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Bad approach that’s all I got to say.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I think your thinking of bathesda, they dont make games, they make betas
mr.dilya
Banned
Thing is why were they releasing all those stupid hype videos showing everybody how great everything looks, all the cool gameplay, cars, etc. If they know their product needs work they should have shut the fuck up, and told their paid promoters to tone down the shilling they were doing on internet forums daily until they get their ducks in order.
Frito_Pendejo
Member
I wouldn’t exactly call this being rushed. The game has been in production for almost a decade.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Just release all of the versions when the PS5 new features are finally ready in 2021.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Except not really. When they released that announcement trailer they hadn't actually done any real production. It bounced around preproduction for a bit, and then full production for maybe a year before being put back on the shelf and then rebooted after Blood and Wine shipped. So it's really only been in full development in its current form for 4.5 years.