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SLoWMoTIoN

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Incidentally, these replaced a pair of Martin Logan speakers. Electrostatic speakers do some things well, but there are sooooo many drawbacks. I really didn't like them after the novelty wore off. Their more conventional designs aren't particularly good, and frankly, ML's stuff is all overpriced.
You don't like the neutral sound?
Is Altier Ryza even any good? I’m trying to see if it’s worth watching Amazon for it to come back in stock.
Not compared to Atelier Ayesha. The story is flat, the music is forgettable and I didn't care much for Ryza herself. Hopefully the sequel has the older titles' soul.
I am hoping to buy a new sound system in the next 8 months or so. I need to do some reading.
All you need is 2 good speakers and a great sub.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
You don't like the neutral sound?

I do, but you also don't need electrostatics to get that. The problem is that placing electrostatic speakers properly is a pain in the ass, and if you're not directly in the right position, it sounds like shit. Literally to the point where there's one good listening position, and if you lean too far to the left or the right, the stereo image falls apart. Anything that the mid-woofer handles sounds like crap, and the crossovers aren't up to the task. And depending on the size of your room, they do a really poor job at higher volumes - they're loud, but not impactful.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
I do, but you also don't need electrostatics to get that. The problem is that placing electrostatic speakers properly is a pain in the ass, and if you're not directly in the right position, it sounds like shit. Literally to the point where there's one good listening position, and if you lean too far to the left or the right, the stereo image falls apart. Anything that the mid-woofer handles sounds like crap, and the crossovers aren't up to the task. And depending on the size of your room, they do a really poor job at higher volumes - they're loud, but not impactful.
I've had some ML bookshelves before and I didn't notice any of these things.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Is Altier Ryza even any good? I’m trying to see if it’s worth watching Amazon for it to come back in stock.
Third party but seems legit.
All you need is 2 good speakers and a great sub.
That’s the plan. Going to build it out slowly. The toughest part is the receiver/TV. I have a 2017 Samsung and it’s already out of date. 60hz, HDMI 2.0, no eARC, etc
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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That’s because they weren’t electrostatic speakers - they just used conventional cone drivers.
Prob, I don't actually remember what they were outside the name. I just remember they weren't boomy and they weren't ear piercing like Klipsch.
Third party but seems legit.

That’s the plan. Going to build it out slowly. The toughest part is the receiver/TV. I have a 2017 Samsung and it’s already out of date. 60hz, HDMI 2.0, no eARC, etc

Do we even have HDMI 2.1 receivers out yet? I'll have to wait 10 years before I replace my receiver. (or 5 considering how much I use it)
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Prob, I don't actually remember what they were outside the name. I just remember they weren't boomy and they weren't ear piercing like Klipsch.

Do we even have HDMI 2.1 receivers out yet? I'll have to wait 10 years before I replace my receiver. (or 5 considering how much I use it)
A few have 1 or 2 2.1 ports. This is the only one I know of that is supposed to be fully 2.1 w/ future update.
 

Tesseract

Banned
Maybe it will be out when you come back.
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
How is this , is it a big file size? Considering snapping that up for only 8 quid

Just under 6GB. I enjoyed the sequel on PC - the art style is gorgeous.
 
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Eevee86

Member
How is this , is it a big file size? Considering snapping that up for only 8 quid
I quit playing shortly after getting the second character. Her brain dead AI made her dump all her mana in the first fight she got in then spend most of the time swinging at monsters and getting murdered.
 

Eevee86

Member
Is it me or is it very, very quiet on the Nintendo front? I mean moreso than the "usual 2020" silence they've had.

I hope when they finally wake up, the megatons come with them.
What? We've had news from them each week for like six weeks now. Fire Emblem isn't huge news this week, but its still something. They'll probably be putting Pikmin and Hyrule Warriors front and center with maybe some other surprise announcement. I'm not expecting anything major until the Game Awards unless Pokemon Snap makes it out this year.
 

ultrazilla

Member
What? We've had news from them each week for like six weeks now. Fire Emblem isn't huge news this week, but its still something. They'll probably be putting Pikmin and Hyrule Warriors front and center with maybe some other surprise announcement. I'm not expecting anything major until the Game Awards unless Pokemon Snap makes it out this year.

I'm not into Pokemon nor the Fire Emblem series. Probably why I think it's slow. A matter of perspective. Cheers!
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
If I had it my way every FE game would get ported to Switch for the 30th anniversary but I also won't say no to Shadow Dragon. Honestly surprised they did anything.
 
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locoghoul

Neo Member
I just saw an ad about Mario games on Switch with the whole 35 anniversary thing. Are we supposed to expect a sale for Black Friday? I know first party titles rarely go on sale (cause why would they) but am I crazy for getting little hopes up? I am still missing MK8D and 3D All Stars from my wishlist
 

Shaqazooloo

Member
I just saw an ad about Mario games on Switch with the whole 35 anniversary thing. Are we supposed to expect a sale for Black Friday? I know first party titles rarely go on sale (cause why would they) but am I crazy for getting little hopes up? I am still missing MK8D and 3D All Stars from my wishlist
The lowest Mario Kart 8 or any other big Mario game will be maybe $45.

3D All-Stars is a limited release so that's not going on sale.
 
I just saw an ad about Mario games on Switch with the whole 35 anniversary thing. Are we supposed to expect a sale for Black Friday? I know first party titles rarely go on sale (cause why would they) but am I crazy for getting little hopes up? I am still missing MK8D and 3D All Stars from my wishlist

You can get All Stars for $49.94 in store at Walmart. Same deal for MK8D, but maybe you'll get lucky and see it for $40 for BF at one of the retailers.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member

No more plastic? Buy me 3!
You can get All Stars for $49.94 in store at Walmart. Same deal for MK8D, but maybe you'll get lucky and see it for $40 for BF at one of the retailers.
Walmart having them in stock in store is the tricky part. Specially Nintendo games, hell I've yet to see a New Horizons cartridge in person lol.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
There are a handful of games on sale physically right now Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Xenoblade, and Splatoon 2. Trick or treat even goes live in Splatoon 2 soon.

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Demand for Nintendo games is relatively inelastic. They don't have any trouble selling them at $60. That said, I have to wonder just how inelastic it is...how much revenue do they miss out on by not dropping the price later in the game's life?

In a world where games are all physical and there is manufacturing cost associated with printing and selling I can understand not printing additional units to fill demand at certain prices but with digital there it doesn't cost Nintendo anything to adjust

I know they have Player's Choice/Selects for this specific purpose but a lot of titles don't get that treatment and we don't even have that program for Switch yet.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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There are a handful of games on sale physically right now Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Xenoblade, and Splatoon 2. Trick or treat even goes live in Splatoon 2 soon.

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Demand for Nintendo games is relatively inelastic. They don't have any trouble selling them at $60. That said, I have to wonder just how inelastic it is...how much revenue do they miss out on by not dropping the price later in the game's life?

In a world where games are all physical and there is manufacturing cost associated with printing and selling I can understand not printing additional units to fill demand at certain prices but with digital there it doesn't cost Nintendo anything to adjust

I know they have Player's Choice/Selects for this specific purpose but a lot of titles don't get that treatment and we don't even have that program for Switch yet.
Speaking of $60...

I just love how we went from ,"WTF WHY ARE NINTENDO GAMES 60 BUCKS ALL THE TIME" to "I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THIS PORT IS 70 ON NEXT GEN DUE TO INFLATION BDs COST MONEY TOOOOO!". That Next Gen sticky thread is full of tism.
 
No more plastic? Buy me 3!

Walmart having them in stock in store is the tricky part. Specially Nintendo games, hell I've yet to see a New Horizons cartridge in person lol.

Closest one to me is 20 minutes so it's not really worth it to take the trip even if they had stock for most of these games 🙁

For those that do live close to one you can check this link to see if you can grab Ni no Kuni for $10: https://brickseek.com/p/ni-no-kuni-wrath-of/7777326#in-store-offers
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
There are a handful of games on sale physically right now Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Xenoblade, and Splatoon 2. Trick or treat even goes live in Splatoon 2 soon.

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Demand for Nintendo games is relatively inelastic. They don't have any trouble selling them at $60. That said, I have to wonder just how inelastic it is...how much revenue do they miss out on by not dropping the price later in the game's life?

In a world where games are all physical and there is manufacturing cost associated with printing and selling I can understand not printing additional units to fill demand at certain prices but with digital there it doesn't cost Nintendo anything to adjust

I know they have Player's Choice/Selects for this specific purpose but a lot of titles don't get that treatment and we don't even have that program for Switch yet.

I feel like they probably do well. A few other companies move 20 million copies between $20 and $60, with dips starting shortly after launch. Nintendo moves them all at $60, sans a rare holiday discount. With some Switch stuff on the way to 25 or 30 million copies, the longevity doesn’t seem hurt either.

To me the former approach just seems like such a bad way to do business. You’re positively reinforcing your customers to expect a game to dip well below it’s initial value, and simply to wait to pay you half-value or less, in which time preowned also becomes a possibility.

Maybe games wouldn’t need to be $70, if the market wasn’t becoming a race to the bottom.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
I feel like they probably do well. A few other companies move 20 million copies between $20 and $60, with dips starting shortly after launch. Nintendo moves them all at $60, sans a rare holiday discount. With some Switch stuff on the way to 25 or 30 million copies, the longevity doesn’t seem hurt either.

To me the former approach just seems like such a bad way to do business. You’re positively reinforcing your customers to expect a game to dip well below it’s initial value, and simply to wait to pay you half-value or less, in which time preowned also becomes a possibility.

Maybe games wouldn’t need to be $70, if the market wasn’t becoming a race to the bottom.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting that Nintendo pull a Ubisoft and run a $29.99 sale 2 months after launch. I was thinking more about titles like Kirby, Splatoon 2, and Xenoblade 2 that had been out for three years now. They could probably either receive a price drop digitally and/or the physical + digital Nintendo Selects treatment at this point and move some more units.
 

Eevee86

Member
I feel like they probably do well. A few other companies move 20 million copies between $20 and $60, with dips starting shortly after launch. Nintendo moves them all at $60, sans a rare holiday discount. With some Switch stuff on the way to 25 or 30 million copies, the longevity doesn’t seem hurt either.

To me the former approach just seems like such a bad way to do business. You’re positively reinforcing your customers to expect a game to dip well below it’s initial value, and simply to wait to pay you half-value or less, in which time preowned also becomes a possibility.

Maybe games wouldn’t need to be $70, if the market wasn’t becoming a race to the bottom.
If anything I expect more people to stop buying at launch and waiting two months for those deep discounts with games going up to $70.
 

StormCell

Member
I have nothing but mixed feelings about Nintendo's pricing strategy.

Pros:
1. I get good resell value if I bother to sell my Nintendo games when I'm done with them. The challenge is actually knowing when I'm done.

Cons:
1. I don't get to experience every Nintendo game due to the prohibitive cost.

On Playstation, I have a lot of games that I paid very little or nothing for. I probably never play Horizon: Zero Dawn if it doesn't drop to $15. I've played a lot of good games on PS4 mostly because the price was right and I was bored at that moment. Conversely, I have paid full price for some games, and it can feel bad when the price is 60% off 6 months later.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
B...Br...Bros...


I’m assuming it’s just because there isn’t clarity on a release time. I’m expecting it to slip to FY 2021 so sometime around April next year.
I have nothing but mixed feelings about Nintendo's pricing strategy.

Pros:
1. I get good resell value if I bother to sell my Nintendo games when I'm done with them. The challenge is actually knowing when I'm done.

Cons:
1. I don't get to experience every Nintendo game due to the prohibitive cost.

On Playstation, I have a lot of games that I paid very little or nothing for. I probably never play Horizon: Zero Dawn if it doesn't drop to $15. I've played a lot of good games on PS4 mostly because the price was right and I was bored at that moment. Conversely, I have paid full price for some games, and it can feel bad when the price is 60% off 6 months later.
TFW all digital and no resale value at all...
 
I'm lucky to have a Walmart nearby and live in a relatively sparse area for video gamers. I was able to get 3D All-Stars for $50 and most other games are usually available at some point. Walmart replaced my Best Buy GCU rather well, although it's not on all games obviously. I'm targeting Walmart for the new Hyrule Warriors game as well in November.

But yes, otherwise limited discounts can be tough and they only happen rarely.
 
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