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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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sircaw

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He said his console was on standby, wasn't he downloading games and that's why the card was so hot? If so and that's not an isolated issue, people will have problem to remove it when the system is on.

yer he said it was on standby.

My ps4 gets hot too, the top of the over at the back but never so hot that i want to refer to it as toasty or pull my hand from it.

if it is that hot its a worry and a design floor, but i have to be honest i can not see Microsoft doing that. There last generation of console build was as far as i know very very good.

That's why i am not making a big deal about it, i think its just one of a thousand that unfortunately something happens to it on the production line, happens to every product i would think.

If it does end up being that hot, that's a problem, the last thing i need to worry about falling asleep at night is the console bursting into flames.
 

Nickolaidas

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Ps5 is rdna 1.5
Ps5 cant do native 4k
Ps5 is 9 tflops
Ps5 sold less than xbox series x
Ps5 has no rt
Ps5 doesnt have impressive games
Ps5 ssd is no better than series x
Ps5 is anticonsumer 80euros games
Ps5 is overheating
I dont even want to go to technical conversations that they spoke off because you will not understand shit and you probably going to laugh and be amazed from the stupidity and ignorance of simple things like shaders,cus,tflops,frames,resolution etc...
If you think FUD was spread from eastwood and others youtubers in here you are very lucky that you cant read and talk greek......
I'm amazed we have toxic X-Box fans in Greece. 90% of the Greek people don't even know what an X-Box is.
 

jimbojim

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Ps5 is rdna 1.5
Ps5 cant do native 4k
Ps5 is 9 tflops
Ps5 sold less than xbox series x
Ps5 has no rt
Ps5 doesnt have impressive games
Ps5 ssd is no better than series x
Ps5 is anticonsumer 80euros games
Ps5 is overheating
I dont even want to go to technical conversations that they spoke off because you will not understand shit and you probably going to laugh and be amazed from the stupidity and ignorance of simple things like shaders,cus,tflops,frames,resolution etc...
If you think FUD was spread from eastwood and others youtubers in here you are very lucky that you cant read and talk greek......

What else to say. It's awesome
 

Lysandros

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Here’s my question. If say a developer wanted to push both visual flare and 60fps and this in turned required them to hit a resolution of around 1440p on PS5 and Series X, then how would they scale such a game on Series S? Would they have to hit sub 1080p?
It would probably scale down to around 800-900P with reduced texture quality.
 

Nikana

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I am in a BAD FUCKING MOOD NOW< WHO WANTS SOME?
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Deleted member 775630

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Here’s my question. If say a developer wanted to push both visual flare and 60fps and this in turned required them to hit a resolution of around 1440p on PS5 and Series X, then how would they scale such a game on Series S? Would they have to hit sub 1080p?
If it really can't go higher than 1440p on XSX then XSS will endeed be below 1080p. Probably even below 900p. But this won't happen. 3rd party developers haven't made any indication that they wouldn't go for native 4K, and obviously Microsoft won't do this either since that would make the XSS useless.
 
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Faithless83

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There is no Quick Resume on PS4 as defined by the term Microsoft uses. There is a single game resume from rest mode but if you power down the console, your game is gone. Multiple games survive power down on Xbox Series.
One versus what 5 games? Does it change the core concept of "resuming the game later"?
Xbox One does it too.
 
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pasterpl

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Here’s my question. If say a developer wanted to push both visual flare and 60fps and this in turned required them to hit a resolution of around 1440p on PS5 and Series X, then how would they scale such a game on Series S? Would they have to hit sub 1080p?

just like on pc, you can scale multiple graphics options besides the resolution, the game from your example might run on series s at the same resolution but 30 FPS, no rt and other effects scaled down
 

TLZ

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Three options:

1. The UI is some sort of state of the art technical showcase they don't want others to see yet.
2. The UI is a bog standard affair and not worth making a big deal out of.
3. The UI is an unfinished mess, and they can't show it yet.

None of us know which option is true, but 3 is very unlikely, 1 is possible, and 2 is the most obvious answer.
I believe it's simply unfinished (not necessarily a mess, just unfinished) and they don't want to show an unfinished product yet to not negatively affect their positive image.
 

Faithless83

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Don’t start an argument for nothing. The important point to me is that on Xbox Series it survives reboots, updates and shutdown.
I'm not, that's my whole point. PS4 and XBO had it. Was it five games or did it survived a reboot? No.
Other than that it does the same thing. Anyway, I was just pointing out that it's not a groundbreaking feature and both consoles will likely have it. No need to be so defensive about it.
 

Et3rn1ty

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I'm amazed we have toxic X-Box fans in Greece. 90% of the Greek people don't even know what an X-Box is.
Not that the ps side knows better here in greece but the majority true, is ps fans.The good thing is ,that most are casual players that simply dont like xbox because *it has no games*,thats the motto that rules here...
Now for the other side it is a small group ,but that small group has so much complex and negativity from the last 7 years that is beyond reality....
 

Flippo

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My speculation on PS5 quick resume: the only limit on how many games can do quick resume, depends on how many games are installed on the SSD. I think with super fast loading and the patent that you can join quests and multiplayer matches from the menu, you never have to 'save/store' a state of a game.
 
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reksveks

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I'm not, that's my whole point. PS4 and XBO had it. Was it five games or did it survived a reboot? No.
Other than that it does the same thing. Anyway, I was just pointing out that it's not a groundbreaking feature and both consoles will likely have it. No need to be so defensive about it.

The fact it survives reboot might count as groundbreaking and I am not 100% sure that Sony will have that.
 

DaGwaphics

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yer he said it was on standby.

My ps4 gets hot too, the top of the over at the back but never so hot that i want to refer to it as toasty or pull my hand from it.

if it is that hot its a worry and a design floor, but i have to be honest i can not see Microsoft doing that. There last generation of console build was as far as i know very very good.

That's why i am not making a big deal about it, i think its just one of a thousand that unfortunately something happens to it on the production line, happens to every product i would think.

If it does end up being that hot, that's a problem, the last thing i need to worry about falling asleep at night is the console bursting into flames.

I would consider all of my consoles toasty, LOL. It's important to mention that it was the SSD expansion that was quite hot (what the guy was joking about being unable to handle
), not the general warmth of the unit overall (which he was handling without issue). NVMes are hot devices, 170 degrees is an acceptable temp for most, and that is going to feel hot in your hand.
 
No no no. He was saying this. He didn't say comparable in RT. He said competitive to the PS5 GPU in games

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Alex been Alex, in the same video where he can explain in a great way the optimization required to reach a decent framerate using RT he has the necessity
to throw shit again PS5, ignoring is RDNA 2, the raw power is closer to 2070 even without think any IPC improvement and any other customization included in the GPU.

I think Alex never receive a Sony Erickson in christmas or something because man he really like to "manage expectations" for one company even when doesn't make
any senses.
 
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xacto

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Lol these fraud influencers and e-celebs were bending over backwards for that trash Raid: Shadow Legends not long ago

It's a no brainer that Microsoft who paid tens of millions for Ninja is paying off these back ally prostitutes

The last 10 pages or so were pretty hectic here... we had the temperature (if it's too high, that's a COVID-19 sign, shit outta luck, Sony), then we had the bolt, then we had the stand which became some hot debate for a couple of pages or so... I understand that it's the slow dripping of the news, but holy cow, people... we're such kids, ALL OF US.

Ok, done now, I will go play some ESO before Microsoft decides to pull it off from Sony's network.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Alex been Alex, in the same video where he can explain in a great way the optimization requires to reach a decent framerate using RT he has the necessity
to throw shit again PS5, ignoring is RDNA 2, the raw power is closer to 2070 even without think any IPC improvement and any other customization included in the GPU.

I think Alex never receive a Sony Erickson in christmas or something because man he is really like to "manage expectations" for one company even when doesn't make
any senses.
Yet he is likely still correct.
 

Faithless83

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The fact it survives reboot might count as groundbreaking and I am not 100% sure that Sony will have that.
Saving the RAM data on the HDD for it to be loaded later? Current gen could do that. Would it be worth it having a dump of 8GB write on a 5000rpm hdd? No. It would be slow as fuck to turn the system off. Hence the reason they didn't do it and just kept the RAM powered.

With SSDs, the barrier of slow I/O is gone. Nothing groundbreaking about it.
 

Bo_Hazem

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This article says Godfall was 4K 120fps. Personally I don't believe that. But that's what it says

Not fps, but 120Hz. That's great even for 30fps to lower input lag.
 

reksveks

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Saving the RAM data on the HDD for it to be loaded later? Current gen could do that. Would it be worth it having a dump of 8GB write on a 5000rpm hdd? No. It would be slow as fuck to turn the system off. Hence the reason they didn't do it and just kept the RAM powered.

With SSDs, the barrier of slow I/O is gone. Nothing groundbreaking about it.

Let's just see if the ps5 has it, hardware waya it's easy especially for a company that basically has shit tonne of experience in creating vm's/dockers. Let's hope Sony has it.
 
Is it? Maybe, but we don't really know how either of these next gen console will compare to PC cards yet.
Always when you compare a close system like a console against a PC try to round above not under, the reason is simple
the optimization cannot be done in the same degree in a PC than a console for money/time reasons.

You already know the performance of a 5700 xt and both system are above that in brute force, features, IPC and memory.

That 5700 xt was done to compete against the 2070, I understand if we cannot know how much above but think is below is a nonsense.

RDNA 2 looks is enough competent than force NVIDIA to release new GPUS with jump much higher than the average in the last years.
 
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B_Boss

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wtf?

Well I know Division 2 definitely requires online 24/7 to play.

I remember a guy from Insomniac answering to someone's question about second parties, and he said there's no such thing, you either have a game published by a platform holder or not, it doesn't matter whether the studio is owned.

Hmm....I wonder how the term “3rd party” came to be instead of, say, “2nd party” lol 🤔.
 

Allandor

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Well, it seems like stores must also buy at least one game per PS5 console they sell (at least in germany), else Sony cancels the stores console-order which leads to the problem, that stores must cancel the preorder of their customers.

This might be a strategy of Sony to ensure that resellers won't order from them. But on the other hand this doesn't stop resellers because the console can be sold with more profit that one game costs.
 

roops67

Member
i wonder if you could make a fan to take in heat like a heat sink, and disperse it as it spins , two alternate metals, different surface area design , that still incorporates vacuum. two birds one fan. hmmm.

call it the circle console , opens from top , fan grill all around it... hmm...
Looked promising, not sure why it never caught on
Coolermaster did buy into the tech and produced something
 
Free HDR in all games? this is cooll


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I like the work of Jason but man is stupid block any person who reply you.
In RT performance it might be a lot worse than that though. We'll see how performant AMD is at RT. I hope they do okay, it will be great for console gamers if they do.
We are talking performance like an everything, Redtechgaming has a couple of good leaks in the last months and he say the RT of RDNA 2 is above RTX 2000 but below
Ampere, of course still be expensive.

My point is Alex love to do out place assumption when is convenient, we remember the PS5 is not completely RDNA2 or the console cannot do RT, the SSD cannot improve
graphics but well we are talking a men who has altar/shrine to Crysis.
 
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