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[Jigsaah]

Omg i wish these consoles would launch already so we can argue about shit that actually matters

 

[Bojanglez]

Preorder cancelled

 

[turtlepowa]

Omg i wish these consoles would launch already so we can argue about shit that actually matters

But then the real war starts with game loading times. Every 0.1 second will mean the world to fanboys.

 

[_SAKY_]

The PC I built 7 years ago with an basic SSD booted Windows 10 in around 14 seconds. Just sayin'

 

[The Hamburglar]

pretty sure current gen systems get to the main menu faster than this.

 

[oldergamer]

Bbbbbut the ssd? Why are we comparing boot up times??

 

[Concern]

How do we stop all this FUD?

/s

Seriously tho. Embargo isn't even up yet and we've already gotten some shitty info like storage for example. Its starting to make sense why no one has seen a Ps5 till now.

 

[RoboFu]

No one to blame but Sony for not releasing any hands on preview units.

 

[iHaunter]

Switch boots up in like 2 seconds

And yet you can count the pixels in the games. I got a new 8K TV and had to turn of BOTW because I was about to vomit.

 

[Goncas2]

Seems real to me, but we don't know what kind of hardware this is. It could be a dev-kit, or very early/beta firmware.

 

[MoreJRPG]

I don't understand why people are bothered about this, don't these new consoles have low power always on modes like last gen?

Considering the only thing Playstation has been able to cling to hardware wise is this “lighting fast SSD”, this is kind of a big deal.

 

[mitch1971]

The next video will reveal what length of screw each console uses during manufacturing. Stay tuned Gaf.

 

[Hayriko]

Even my old laptop with an older gen ssd boots faster

 

[theddub]

But.....But the PS5 SSD! Obviously with MS optimizations on XBOX Velocity Architecture there's a bit a parity there. Software obviously plays a part. But XVA hardware is more than just SSD hardware it's also SFS streaming and decompression block hardware etc... MS might just have the upper hand on SSD architecture after all. We'll see.

If true and it happens in games, the ONLY 1 hardware advantage of the PS5, the SSD setup, could actually be inferior to XSX/s.

 

[Concern]

Considering the only thing Playstation has been able to cling to hardware wise is this “lighting fast SSD”, this is kind of a big deal.

I don't consider it a big deal but I get your point. I mean just read the thread where people were asked to predict the differences between both consoles.

Some were saying XSX loading 12 seconds vs Ps5 loading in 2 seconds.

"Our Japanese Youtuber determined that was a lie". Lol

 

[ZywyPL]

My win 10 PC with SSD boots up in like 8 seconds I think. These consoles must be doing a lot more under the hood.

What's your CPU? I'm guessing Intel, right? The thing is, AMD CPUs are known for disgustingly long boot times, and since that's what the consoles are using, 20s seems about right, unfortunately.

 

[longdi]

What's your CPU? I'm guessing Intel, right? The thing is, AMD CPUs are known for disgustingly long boot times, and since that's what the consoles are using, 20s seems about right, unfortunately.

my 3950x takes much longer to boot into windows than Intel.
That with pcie4 ssd and disabled sata drives and max cpu boot!

But i think PS5 slower cpu speeds than Xbox, is the likely cause of slow cold boot.

 

[cormack12]

What's your CPU? I'm guessing Intel, right? The thing is, AMD CPUs are known for disgustingly long boot times, and since that's what the consoles are using, 20s seems about right, unfortunately.

Yeah its an i5-6600k

 

[Killer Sakoman]

You don't simply compare cold boot based on SSD speeds.
There's more there. Each console have a set of hardware and software checkups. You cannot compare anything without a log data for each console.

 

[Journey]

Now load times matter!

You're missing the point, to Will Hunting, it didn't matter who was the smartest, he was probably the most modest guy in the room, but at the end of the day...

 

[Alan Wake]

I expect the performance of these two consoles to be very similiar.

 

[FrankWza]

You don't simply compare cold boot based on SSD speeds.
There's more there. Each console have a set of hardware and software checkups. You cannot compare anything without a log data for each console.

I expect the performance of these two consoles to be very similiar.

Stop!!!!!!!





you’re making too much sense.

 

[Garani]

Preorder cancelled

Just send it my way, I'll take good care of it!

 

[wolffy71]

We are getting a little silly over load times

 

[MilkyJoe]

Thats's because your PS5 loads all your games at the startup.

All 3 of them

 

[aries_71]

Our Lord Cerny won’t fail us. The PS Quintuplets SSD is superior.

 

[EverydayBeast]

People think stuff should be instant

 

[Connxtion]

The boot process is probably almost instant.

Am sure MS/Major Nelson said they had to slow it down.

Just like the XB1X has it maybe a video that plays then loads the dash.
(XB1X has to do the rest of the boot up)

Assumptions here.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

People think stuff should be instant

It's mainly console only gamers who have no clue about SSDs thinking they're magic. These consoles probably do all sorts of checks and maybe sign into their respective services in the background before you get to the user screen.

It's the same with loading games. The SSD will shorten the time needed for the searching and reading of game data but there is more to loading a game than that.

 

[bitbydeath]

Does anyone know how the startup jingle/chime/melody sounds like on the PS5?

Yeah, Sony showed it off already.

 

[ExKing]

SSD is probably in PS4 mode there.

Damage control.

Anyway what matters is the games. Curious to see the speed of the games on PS5 with that ultra fast SSD.

 

[Hendrick's]

That SSD.

 

[M1chl]

Damage control.

Anyway what matters is the games. Curious to see the speed of the games on PS5 with that ultra fast SSD.

That's a joke™

 

[Spukc]

Wtf is this ?
Sony has betrayed us i might as well return all my sony consoles.
I can’t believe this shit. Tlou2 is no longer playable.
Gow 2 is ruined no more horizon. Sony is doomed!

creorder pancelled

 

[Myths]

To those saying it is fake, how come then this official reveal video below shows same background? How do you fake the DS5 controller with blue surround LED lights around it blinking when the machine boots up in the reddit video?

You need to learn about After Effects and Premiere Pro. And maybe some keying, which I don’t think they need to go that far. Mock-up controller probably, people are artisans.

 

[Mr Hyde]

. I got a new 8K TV and had to turn of BOTW because I was about to vomit.

Sounds like you should sell your tv then. 8K, lol, what a fucking waste of money

 

[gamerguywashere]

I can't get shit to load on my phone, but if it takes that long to cold boot PS5, i'll stick with the Switch

What could possibly take that long to load?...they should all go back to when the os was a small bios

the whole point is to get into the game fast...i think it would be hilarious if the hardware could literally be up and gaming in seconds, but the operating system department just isn't on board

so short-sighted imo

 

[Ps5ProFoSho]

This just in:
Xbox room temperature increase .5°
PS5 room temperature increase .75°

 

[EverydayBeast]

It's mainly console only gamers who have no clue about SSDs thinking they're magic. These consoles probably do all sorts of checks and maybe sign into their respective services in the background before you get to the user screen.

It's the same with loading games. The SSD will shorten the time needed for the searching and reading of game data but there is more to loading a game than that.

You can see SSD is happening in the console world specifically load times and it will unfold as the gen goes on SSD is in console gamers faces now but because it’s so new this is where confusion happens.

 

[Great Hair]

My PC boots up in under 2 seconds (sleep mode). I win!

 

[GlassAwful]

If true, my 7 year old Windows 10 pc with a sata ssd boots faster to desktop than either brand new console at about 14 seconds.

But I'm sure these consoles are doing more complicated stuff than a PC..

 

[cragarmi]

I'm more interested in that black gamepad.

The prototype was black!

Who knew?

 

[Black_Stride]

Original leak from reddit. Guy claims to have PS5 (maybe a Russian influencer), and offered to show the video for $100. Redditor paid for it.

PS5 might shave a second off if you have auto login set as it loads the profile seelction screen rather than UI. And the video, while it looks legit, could still be a fake

My win 10 PC with SSD boots up in like 8 seconds I think. These consoles must be doing a lot more under the hood.

Boot up from 00:37 - 00:57


Boot up from 00:00 - 00:22

8 seconds cold boot?

If its faststart with very little ever having been installed on the machine....as in its brand new or something thats still devilishly quick.


P.S I know some Win10 tablet/laptops that do fastboot trickery....but a PC as in a tower thats in active use cold booting in 8 seconds.....thats really quick.

 

[Drunkensamurai]

are we really comparing an official video with a fake video? Come on you guys can do better.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

PS5 just needed two extra seconds in dat Russian tundra dude

Joke aside, that's not really that big a difference between the two and it prob comes down to how the OS is configured between the two systems, but this could be a hint towards what some of us were talking about for a while now: these systems are going to perform very similarly when it comes to real-world SSD I/O efficiency. And considering how much people focus on the paper specs of this stuff, seeing the one with the seemingly faster solution having the slower speed is probably a mindfuck for them.

And it's like I was saying for a while: they're both valid solutions to the current data I/O bottlenecks we've been stuck with for the past several years. No one can deny Sony's solution of its raw capabilities when it comes to its approach here, but anyone who was seriously thinking MS's approach was a "band aid" or an amateur solution that wouldn't be capable of keeping up were absolutely fooling themselves.

Especially considering you need highly efficient software algorithms and APIs to leverage the underlying technology and, well, as the popular (if reductionist) argument goes, MS is a software company as many like to say .

 

[McHuj]

As mentioned in the other thread, the majority of boot time in likelihood isn't copying the OS into the RAM.

It's turning on the devices and running system validation checks. During cold boot in a secure device, the OS is going to have to do integrity checks on all devices like the Wifi chip, SSD, lan, RAM, etc. It's going to have to start all the background OS tasks and wait for them to initialize. Even in windows boot, after you boot, there's a whole bunch of shit that runs from your "startup" folder and process manager. On a console, all that has to be done after you drop into the main menu.

The OS reserve is ~2 GB of which probably only half a gig at most is actually taken up by memory resident OS code and the rest reserved for actual running background tasks and apps. That's nothing even for a slow SSD.

 

[Digital Gex]

It's over.

PS5 not only waiting for games but you have to wait for the games themselves that you buy.

I'm through, I will not be punished like a snake. I am a MAN! And I want my Sony backpack simulators to load FASTER than shoot bang box RIGHT NOW.

Jim just called, said they are selling more buildings, which may I add they sold them faster than PS5 boot time.

 

[prinz_valium]

Omg i wish these consoles would launch already so we can argue about shit that actually matters

This shit matters.
More than games.
You start your console a thousand times over the lifetime of the generation.

 

[The Alien]

B..b....b...but SSD.

 

[Spukc]

Yes

Yes