KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
And my point was: don't call other idiots, that's it. If you just stated "why would anybody think that the PS5 or XSX can do 4k60" then I wouldn't even quoted you. There is enough people doing console war
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Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart will run at dynamic 4K resolution, targets 60 FPS for performance mode
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SilentUser
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Game looks outstanding, native 4k or not. What happened with gamers? The game is gorgeous, since when hitting native 4k is mandatory?
Like I usually say, 1440p works just fine on 4k TVs. Just give me some nice upscaling and call it a day. PS4 Pro has a lot of titles that does it well.
Like I usually say, 1440p works just fine on 4k TVs. Just give me some nice upscaling and call it a day. PS4 Pro has a lot of titles that does it well.
-Native 4K
-60FPS
-120 FPS multiplayer mode
-Ray Tracing
-Ultra textures assets
-Only possible with 12TF machine.
-No comprises like performance mode and dynamic resolution to hide hardware limitations.
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Lionel Richie
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I'm sorry, but TARGETS 60 fps in performance mode is not acceptable out of these machines. Hopefully it was just worded poorly.
captainclutch777
Member
You guys need to update your knowledge of graphical requirements if you think a console with midrange PC specs (going into 2021) is going to be pulling native 4k 60fps. 1440p upscaled to 4k is going to be the name of the game for 60fps.
I've been playing with my PC hooked up to my C9 in 1440p (1080 ti can't do 4k 120hz) and it looks amazing. I'm sure the PS5 running upscaled 1440p will look great, and as usual the first party studios are going to be doing things that even PC's significantly more powerful can't pull off. If you are determined to get the max FPS with native 4k you really should be getting into the PC space (instead of pushing this pointless console war over 2tf).
For people with actual reasonable expectations for a little custom gaming PC that's priced way under what you could build for that price, these consoles are going to be great and will only get better over time.
I've been playing with my PC hooked up to my C9 in 1440p (1080 ti can't do 4k 120hz) and it looks amazing. I'm sure the PS5 running upscaled 1440p will look great, and as usual the first party studios are going to be doing things that even PC's significantly more powerful can't pull off. If you are determined to get the max FPS with native 4k you really should be getting into the PC space (instead of pushing this pointless console war over 2tf).
For people with actual reasonable expectations for a little custom gaming PC that's priced way under what you could build for that price, these consoles are going to be great and will only get better over time.
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Hawking Radiation
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You're only EVER going to see Native 4K on these consoles through cross-gen and backwards compatibility games.
Once PS5 and Xbox Series X exclusive games take off in a year or two, the resolutions will continue to drop for both to be able to hit higher levels of graphical fidelity.
Native 4K is huge waste of resources in a console. I'd rather developers target 1440p and implement some checkerboarding techniques to faux 4K. If i can't spot the artifacts these techniques bring then its a win for me.
The general public won't notice either. You're not going to find Tom, Dick and Harry zooming into a blade of grass at +1000% to look for imperfections.
Once PS5 and Xbox Series X exclusive games take off in a year or two, the resolutions will continue to drop for both to be able to hit higher levels of graphical fidelity.
Native 4K is huge waste of resources in a console. I'd rather developers target 1440p and implement some checkerboarding techniques to faux 4K. If i can't spot the artifacts these techniques bring then its a win for me.
The general public won't notice either. You're not going to find Tom, Dick and Harry zooming into a blade of grass at +1000% to look for imperfections.
Hawking Radiation
Member
This is a current gen game lol
-Native 4K
-60FPS
-120 FPS multiplayer mode
-Ray Tracing
-Ultra textures assets
-Only possible with 12TF machine.
-No comprises like performance mode and dynamic resolution to hide hardware limitations.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Smooth FPS and Crisp resolution.
nikolino840
Member
With a gigantic ssd tho
toxiichollow
Member
Question, do you considered spider-man remastered a current gen game?
Blond
Banned
No, they (being Sony and Microsoft) said you’d get it but I’m tired of people getting hurt over this fact calling people fanboys lol.
People kept trying to warn gaf that if the best PCs can’t do 4k60 don’t expect a console too.
“But muh optimized ray tracing”
“But muh direct to metal assembly language coding as if pc games aren’t written in the same shit”
“But muh naughty dog”
The jump from 1440p to 2160p is MASSIVE, if these consoles want to flex their weight 1440p/60 is doable on midrange PCs and that should be their target with AI upscaling.
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LordOfChaos
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The second one would do nothing tho
Hawking Radiation
Member
Was spiderman released on PS4?
No it wasn't, you wanted to attack me because you thought some Pro PC gamer jumping to a PS5 thread. Here is the proof you said "pro PC, and we don't want you in our ranks". So you either didn't understand my point or you didn't read my point and just reacted. So you don't have to lie about it and make up the idiot angle. Just say you misunderstood my point. And I am sorry but anybody is downing R&C on PS5 because it is a dynamic 4k60 is an idiot, the game is stunning.
Hawking Radiation
Member
We have people posting Gears Of War 5 pics here as proof these consoles are capable of native 4K. Well no shit it can do native 4K on a game designed on last gen hardware.
There are alot of people in for a rude awakening when these consoles start showing off games developed exclusively on next gen hardware. Them resolutions and framerates are going DOWN across the board.
That looks better than next gen games in technical aspects.
4K resolution+60FPS+Ray Tracing+Ultra setting assets+120FPS in Multiplayer = Awesome stuff.
Next gen stuff = 4K,60FPS, and RT.
Underwhelming stuff = Performance mode with lower than Native 4K and 60FPS or Resolution mode with Native 4K30FPS.
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Codes 208
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Yes. And I didn’t see a whole lot from the remaster that really stood out outside of the model change and 60fps.
same goes for gears, a game designed around a 1.3tflop system had better run significantly better on a 12tflop machine.
Maybe It's Medicine?
Member
I will never understand consoles jump from selling 1080p consoles to trying to compete at 4k overnight. The 3080 is the first real 4k card (though I still question it's performance at 4k in the coming years) and it craps all over the ps5/xbox. 1440p is the sweet spot right now. Marketing trumps being reasonable though I guess.
VisualFidelity
Member
Ps5 putting out ps4 numbers with slightly better graphics
Blond
Banned
Yeah, just like COD: Cold War doing all the same stuff running a Quake 2 engine with a HD texture pack.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Current gen game with current gen assets.
Ratchet is developed to run only on PS5 hence the game features assets not possible on current gen hardware.
I hope you understand there is a difference between the two.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
I said "you look like a dumb pro PC" witch was true, based on your first post. But ok, maybe I was too agressive and I'm sorry.
But
We already have a few 4k 60fps games on Sex and PS5, so I am an idiot I guess.
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And to clarify, this is what I posted in first page:
"The only thing that matter is that the game will look gorgeous, and will probably feel very smooth and people who actually PLAY won't care about 30 FPS because this isn't a fast paced shooter."
And I play on PC first, but I own a PS4 and I plan to get a PS5 in time (because it seem we have to justify ourselves today)
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Blond
Banned
I fully expect native 1440p/30 to eventually be the target for all these games. Call me when Gears 6 is running on Unreal 5 with ray tracing, 60 FPS, native 4K etc and I’ll say you’re on the right track. Also, never forget Uncharted 4 looked like this at one point.
_Justinian_
Gold Member
Hawking Radiation
Member
Yep lol. That's been evident since these console specs were floating around from insiders to social media platforms. Native 4K was always a pipe dream and i've always maintained that next gen games shouldn't target 4K as its a huge waste of resources. Hell, even ray tracing is a waste. I'd drop that as well. Save it for PS6 and Xbox Series Z or whatever when i'm sure the hardware will be more refined to have a proper go at it.
PC GPU's already struggle with it so why is it being forced on console.
Gears 5 on XSX was developed to run on 12.15TF RDNA2 machine.
Hawking Radiation
Member
You're not very smart are you?
You're clearly trolling now and i'd be careful if was you. You can choose to continue though (not wise to do so) because your account has already been marked for trolling.
MaulerX
Member
NullZ3r0
Banned
So if that's true, the $299 Series S will outsell everything since resolution doesn't matter.
VFXVeteran
Banned
This was argued at length here for months about the GPU being the bottleneck on these consoles. Just announcing the TFLOPS should have tempered expectations but people still believed in unrealistic claims of "secret sauce" coding and "the Zen CPUs will make a hellava difference over Jaguars".
It has and will always be about the GPU.
NullZ3r0
Banned
So is Miles Morales.
Stooky
Member
has this game been seen running on XSX or has Microsoft said that the demo is running on XSX?
-Native 4K
-60FPS
-120 FPS multiplayer mode
-Ray Tracing
-Ultra textures assets
-Only possible with 12TF machine.
-No comprises like performance mode and dynamic resolution to hide hardware limitations.
Hawking Radiation
Member
There are still Series S console available for pre-order since they went live. What are you trying to say ?
You're point being?
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NullZ3r0
Banned
Its not what I'm saying. Its people in here actually saying that PS5 should target 1440p because 4K doesn't matter. If resolution doesnt matter, save $100-$200 and buy a Series S.
And Series S is sold out where I am and that's all that matters.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Yes and i agree with those people who wish to have PS5 and Xbox Series X games at lower resolutions.
This is to add more graphical fidelity to the game. This is apparent through all first party developers who target lower resolutions to deliver better looking games. It really is not rocket science.
We all purchase next gen consoles to play next gen looking games. If you want to play current games at higher resolutions or framerates, get a PC.
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skneogaf
Member
I'm massively in favour of dynamic resolution if you can't guarantee 4k.
Same with frame rate as variable refresh rate of hdmi 2.1 should cover the fluctuations.
Console games should have been using dynamic resolution and unlocked frame rate since dynamic resolution became a thing.
Same with frame rate as variable refresh rate of hdmi 2.1 should cover the fluctuations.
Console games should have been using dynamic resolution and unlocked frame rate since dynamic resolution became a thing.
pyrocro
Member
you're being sarcastic right?
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Works for me.
LordCBH
Member
#BringBackMegatextures
Hawking Radiation
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There should be no one surprised that there are still dynamic resolutions being used this gen on consoles. Halo Infinite was listed as dynamic resolution too.
Just like picking between 30 and 60 FPS, it's up to the developer. Every game COULD be native 4k/60 but then they would probably look like shit.
Just like picking between 30 and 60 FPS, it's up to the developer. Every game COULD be native 4k/60 but then they would probably look like shit.
bitbydeath
Member
No, that is how 8K textures were able to be used on the Unreal 5 demo.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
That’s not how it works.
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How is that trolling? You didn't find Gears 5 with that graphics is running at 4K60FPS with RT enable not impressive?
Even Spider-Man remastered unable to run at 60FPS with RT enable.