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[DaGwaphics]

And making all Bethesda IPs Xbox exclusive brings something to Xbox users without taking anything away from the opposing platform's user base... how, exactly? The double standards of Xbox fans is something else.

Is it not expected for first-party studios to build software exclusive to their platform. MS will be footing the bill for development costs now, the games are theirs from this point forward.

Money-hating timed exclusivity on a completed game is something different.

 

[Represent.]

That definitely sounds like multiplat to me.

If they were exclusive they would have straight up said so, it would sell systems.

 

[Senua]

Don't do it phil

 

[GeoramA]

Deathloop and Ghostwire will be the last Bethesda games on PlayStation.

It really blows, but that's reality now.

 

[CitizenX]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing or something? Bad Microsoft for investing in the future of Bethesda and giving them a shitload of cash to go make AAA games! How bloody dare they! Selfish swines making the value of their console better for their fans!

Meanwhile, Sony's top performing studio (Naughty Dog) was a 3rd party purchased developer. The amount of irony and hypocrisy i've seen on this forum and wider gaming community is just astounding. Not a month ago if you had complained about Sony buying up exclusive 3rd party content, it was cheered as a win for Playstation and Sony doing good by their players by adding value, "sucks for Xbox" type deal.

Rules for thee, but not for me rings a bell.

They already had a sht ton of cash and I would like to point you in the direction of FO 76.

 

[Senua]

 

[Arkam]

You know he was talking about XSX games on XB1 right?

As for what he says here, its pretty conclusive.

Tell me again how "Defunding the Police" does not mean "Defunding the Police" lol



From the cited article:

“Gaming is about entertainment and community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives,” he said. “I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about. Gaming is bigger than any one device…”

He is perfectly within his rights to Gaslight and change his mind with the wind.... but lets not say it didnt happen.

 

[NEbeast]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing or something? Bad Microsoft for investing in the future of Bethesda and giving them a shitload of cash to go make AAA games! How bloody dare they! Selfish swines making the value of their console better for their fans!

Meanwhile, Sony's top performing studio (Naughty Dog) was a 3rd party purchased developer. The amount of irony and hypocrisy i've seen on this forum and wider gaming community is just astounding. Not a month ago if you had complained about Sony buying up exclusive 3rd party content, it was cheered as a win for Playstation and Sony doing good by their players by adding value, "sucks for Xbox" type deal.

Rules for thee, but not for me rings a bell.

Are you really pulling the MS saved them card? MS have produced nothing for 7years , they had no choice but to buy a big publisher. I hope you remember this when Amazon starts sucking up the gaming industry .

 

[Lone Wolf]

It's so obvious the games will still be multiplatform. If they wernt then they would be singing about it from the roof tops at this crucial period. All the quotes are just marketing speak designed to give PS4 users doubt. It's just the same as when companies duck and dive when timed exclusive deals are announced "were only talking about this version today" lol.

The games will be on Gamepass day 1 and that's great for X Box users but don't kid yourself there going to be exclusive. Look at the carefully chosen words they are saying in every interview.

PS will get Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo as timed exclusives as the contract stipulates. they will also get Elder Scrolls online and fallout 76. Oh and Fallout Shelter. Everything else will be Xbox/PC/Xcloud. We are hitting a new generation. this is not Xbox one Anymore.

 

[Snake29]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing or something? Bad Microsoft for investing in the future of Bethesda and giving them a shitload of cash to go make AAA games! How bloody dare they! Selfish swines making the value of their console better for their fans!

Meanwhile, Sony's top performing studio (Naughty Dog) was a 3rd party purchased developer. The amount of irony and hypocrisy i've seen on this forum and wider gaming community is just astounding. Not a month ago if you had complained about Sony buying up exclusive 3rd party content, it was cheered as a win for Playstation and Sony doing good by their players by adding value, "sucks for Xbox" type deal.

Rules for thee, but not for me rings a bell.

There is a difference between studio’s who where always close with the console manufacturer, then multiplatform publishers, who were always multiplatform, just like their franchises.
I don’t know if we need to be happy if these large companies are going after these publishers.

 

[lastmessiah]

There is a difference between studio’s who where always close with the console manufacturer, then multiplatform publishers, who were always multiplatform, just like their franchises.
I don’t know if we need to be happy if these large companies are going after these publishers.

Bethesda wasn't always multiplat, and they've always been close with MS. So there you go.

 

[RoadHazard]

Is it not expected for first-party studios to build software exclusive to their platform. MS will be footing the bill for development costs now, the games are theirs from this point forward.

Money-hating timed exclusivity on a completed game is something different.

MS didn't buy a small promising studio to nurture into a great AAA developer (which is what Sony has mostly done), they bought a huge publisher to permanently take many of the most popular multiplatform franchises away from millions of gamers. How is buying temporary exclusivity for a single game (which both MS and Sony have done plenty of) worse than this? How are you not seeing your own hypocrisy?

 

[Evangelion Unit-01]

Going to be interesting to see what they do here.

Stuff like ESO and FO76 will definitely be multi-plat.

The "smaller" titles like Doom, Prey, Dishonored will be Xbox/PC exclusive.

Really the only ones in question are the big BGS games like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, and Starfield. I would imagine they either keep these wholly Xbox/PC exclusive or they opt to for timed exclusivity with a PS release a year later. Either way, day 1 release will be a good selling point for Game Pass.

 

[CatLady]

I’m not okay with this. I’ve only a PS5 and this acquisition is a trigger to me.

You can always cancel your PS5 preorder and buy a series X. I hear they have tons of them available in Finland.

 

[Snake29]

Bethesda wasn't always multiplat, and they've always been close with MS. So there you go.

Looks like not close enough that Sony could have exclusive deals. Your ignoring the fact that you can’t compare Zenimax with Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Santa Monica, Polyphony etc.

These studios grown by Sony, you can't say that of Zenimax.

 

[Lambdadelta]

I honestly don't see how this in any way confirms skyrim and starfield is going to be exclusive like many people is claiming here. Like he says, they will take it on a case by case basis.

 

[LeftThumbstick]

Ae you really pulling the MS saved them card? MS have produced noti8bg for 7years , they had no choice but to buy a big publisher. I hope you remember this when Amazon starts sucking up the gaming industry .

Nope, not what was said at all. I said they've invested into them and gave them even more money and resources than they had before. Bethesda said as much themselves. Yes i will, i have an Amazon account by the way, i'll have no troubles playing their games lol.

There is a difference between studio’s who where always close with the console manufacturer, then multiplatform publishers, who were always multiplatform, just like their franchises.
I don’t know if we need to be happy if these large companies are going after these publishers.

Bethesda have always been close with Xbox, wtf are you talking about? Do some basic research into the matter, please.

 

[DaGwaphics]

MS didn't buy a small promising studio to nurture into a great AAA developer (which is what Sony has mostly done), they bought a huge publisher to permanently take many of the most popular multiplatform franchises away from millions of gamers. How is buying temporary exclusivity for a single game (which both MS and Sony have done plenty of) worse than this? How are you not seeing your own hypocrisy?

I would only by hypocritical if I was expecting Nintendo or Sony to put their games on Xbox. I expect them to keep the software they finance in-house, in fact I'd be stunned if they didn't. Same for MS.

There are no rules that state that if your competitor buys small you have to as well. MS purchased a company that they have been close to all along, same as Sony has generally done. Just with a higher $$$ value.

 

[combat_drone]

"we want the Xbox ecosystem to be the absolute best place to play and we think game availability is absolutely part of that. "

Pretty sure "game availability" means exclusives here.

 

[Hostile_18]

PS will get Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo as timed exclusives as the contract stipulates. they will also get Elder Scrolls online and fallout 76. Oh and Fallout Shelter. Everything else will be Xbox/PC/Xcloud. We are hitting a new generation. this is not Xbox one Anymore.

That's just what you hope though. Why wouldn't they be saying what you believe if it was true? It would get loads of people on the X Box ecosystem. Fact is they know they would likely lose more than they would gain by doing it.

 

[DarkMage619]

Going to be interesting to see what they do here.

Stuff like ESO and FO76 will definitely be multi-plat.

The "smaller" titles like Doom, Prey, Dishonored will be Xbox/PC exclusive.

Really the only ones in question are the big BGS games like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, and Starfield. I would imagine they either keep these wholly Xbox/PC exclusive or they opt to for timed exclusivity with a PS release a year later. Either way, day 1 release will be a good selling point for Game Pass.

Wouldn't the reverse make more sense? Put the low selling games on PS5 to boost the numbers and keep the massive properties exclusive so they can be system sellers. Not that that I think either will happen but perhaps Sony and MS can arrange a deal to swap some games around. Spiderman for TES.

 

[Hostile_18]

"we want the Xbox ecosystem to be the absolute best place to play and we think game availability is absolutely part of that. "

Pretty sure "game availability" means exclusives here.

Noooo that's what they want people to interpret it as but in reality it will be Gamepass and X Cloud delivery.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

I honestly don't see how this in any way confirms skyrim and starfield is going to be exclusive like many people is claiming here. Like he says, they will take it on a case by case basis.

But as the Xbox community, what they should feel this is a huge investment in the experiences they are gonna have in the xbox ecosystem. And we want the xbox ecosystem to be absolutely the best place to play and we think game availability is absolutely part of that.

"Game availability" is PR speak for "exclusivity". Let's read that last line again:
we want the xbox ecosystem to be absolutely the best place to play and we think exclusivity is absolutely part of that.

It's black and white.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

PCMR stays winning

 

[Snake29]

Nope, not what was said at all. I said they've invested into them and gave them even more money and resources than they had before. Bethesda said as much themselves. Yes i will, i have an Amazon account by the way, i'll have no troubles playing their games lol.



Bethesda have always been close with Xbox, wtf are you talking about? Do some basic research into the matter, please.

Still not the same “close” by the studios I’ve mentioned, so you can’t compare. Not really hard to understand or what?

 

[Hostile_18]

Its funny because if it had been Sony buying Bethesda, a company where a $7,5bil outlay could be a literal gamble on the companies future, not one of them would be saying Sony will release the games on Xbox. But Microsoft, a company where $7.5bil is a Christmas party for Nadella lol, yes that outlay is going to hurt them so much they will simply have to put them on Playstation.

Its the hope that kills you guys, the hope that kills you.

If that is true why are they not just saying that? To save some gamers feelings? To stop more people pre ordering a X Box or subscribing to Gamepass? It makes no sense.

 

[Stuart360]

You know you guys could also put aside the brand loyalty to companies where the execs would stand and watch if you were on the street on fire, and buy an Xbox to go with you PS5. I mean even ignoring the Zenimax buy, there is a pretty good chance most multiplatform games will be better on XSX anyway. You could also wait a year or so as Starfield probably wont be out until next fall at the earliest, and Elder Scrolls and Fallout, Doom 3 etc, even further out.

 

[lastmessiah]

Noooo that's what they want people to interpret it as but in reality it will be Gamepass and X Cloud delivery.

So....exclusive to MS platforms. Like we've been saying.

 

[Lone Wolf]

That's just what you hope though. Why wouldn't they be saying what you believe if it was true? It would get loads of people on the X Box ecosystem. Fact is they know they would likely lose more than they would gain by doing it.

I don’t hope anything. Are you sure you are not Projecting? Can’t build up an ecosystem if you put all your big AAA games on PS5. It’s not happening.

 

[Hostile_18]

So....exclusive to MS platforms. Like we've been saying.

Nooo If it was they would make it loud and clear.

Day 1 Gamepass but multiplatform release (for most). Look carefully at the words and language they are using.

 

[Stuart360]

If that is true why are they not just saying that? To save some gamers feelings? To stop more people pre ordering a X Box or subscribing to Gamepass? It makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense when they have just had a major deal like this, and Phil and Nadella are having to go on CNBC Business, Bloomberg, etc to do interviews about the deal. Can you imagine the uncomfortable questions from interviewers if they said 'not coming to Playstation'. And thats ignoring the internet outcry that would happen from crybabies.

 

[Lone Wolf]

You know you guys could also put aside the brand loyalty to companies where the execs would stand and watch if you were on the street on fire, and buy an Xbox to go with you PS5. I mean even ignoring the Zenimax buy, there is a pretty good chance most multiplatform games will be better on XSX anyway. You could also wait a year or so as Starfield probably wont be out until next fall at the earliest, and Elder Scrolls and Fallout, Doom 3 etc, even further out.

They all have gaming PC’s for Xbox exclusives I thought?

 

[lastmessiah]

Nooo If it was they would make it loud and clear.

Day 1 Gamepass but multiplatform release (for most). Look carefully at the words and language they are using.

You are in deep denial man, it's ok though.

 

[Stuart360]

They all have gaming PC’s for Xbox exclusives I thought?

Yeah sorry i forgot.

 

[freefornow]

Tell me again how "Defunding the Police" does not mean "Defunding the Police" lol



From the cited article:

“Gaming is about entertainment and community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives,” he said. “I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about. Gaming is bigger than any one device…”

He is perfectly within his rights to Gaslight and change his mind with the wind.... but lets not say it didnt happen.

Yep. It did happen and he was saying similar things for the last few years. Even in regards to cross console play. I think he just sat back, saw what Sony was doing with their continued pursuit of "exclusivity", and said "fuck this shit, two can play at that!" and signed the check/cheque.

 

[Hostile_18]

I don’t hope anything. Are you sure you are not Projecting? Can’t build up an ecosystem if you put all your big AAA games on PS5. It’s not happening.

While I do hope they appear on the PS5 I'm strictly looking at what is been said.

How easy would this be to say if it was true "All Bethesda games are now exclusive to X Box, day 1 on Gamepass. Pre order the console/subscribe now". Even the hardest X Box fans must see they are using very carefully selected words to the detriment of the X Box brand (but not to a revenue one).

 

[RoadHazard]

I would only by hypocritical if I was expecting Nintendo or Sony to put their games on Xbox. I expect them to keep the software they finance in-house, in fact I'd be stunned if they didn't. Same for MS.

There are no rules that state that if your competitor buys small you have to as well. MS purchased a company that they have been close to all along, same as Sony has generally done. Just with a higher $$$ value.

I'm not saying anyone should put their 1st party titles on completing platforms, I would never expect that. I'm saying that while you and others complain about Sony buying timed exclusivity for single games (or even just DLC), MS just bought permanent exclusivity for an entire publisher's range of franchises. And that you celebrate.

 

[LeftThumbstick]

Still not the same “close” by the studios I’ve mentioned, so you can’t compare. Not really hard to understand or what?

Nah, it's very hard to understand your weird rational behind what is the acceptable level of "closeness". If you even watched the video, they explain how it was Xbox who helped them get into developing for console in the first place. Do you want them to be engaged or something first?

 

[Lone Wolf]

While I do hope they appear on the PS5 I'm strictly looking at what is been said.

How easy would this be to say if it was true "All Bethesda games are now exclusive to X Box, day 1 on Gamepass. Pre order the console/subscribe now". Even the hardest X Box fans must see they are using very carefully selected words.

It’s Zenimax, not just Bethesda. And I already explained why they didn’t say that. PS will get Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, and Fallout Shelter. That’s it.

 

[Hostile_18]

You are in deep denial man, it's ok though.

Hey man maybe. Can you answer why they are using such loose terminology then?

 

[Stuart360]

Nah, it's very hard to understand your weird rational behind what is the acceptable level of "closeness". If you even watched the video, they explain how it was Xbox who helped them get into developing for console in the first place. Do you want them to be engaged or something first?

Todd has literally said numerous times that Morrowind coming to Xbox saved the company.

 

[Andodalf]

While I do hope they appear on the PS5 I'm strictly looking at what is been said.

How easy would this be to say if it was true "All Bethesda games are now exclusive to X Box, day 1 on Gamepass. Pre order the console/subscribe now". Even the hardest X Box fans must see they are using very carefully selected words to the detriment of the X Box brand (but not to a revenue one).

They're waiting for Sony to announce that Marvel's Spider-Man Miles Morales won't be coming to Xbox 360. Or the deal with Bethesda to be approved by regulators.

 

[Hostile_18]

It’s Zenimax, not just Bethesda. And I already explained why they didn’t say that. PS will get Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, and Fallout Shelter. That’s it.

"Existing games will be continually supported throughout their lifespan, however any new games will be exclusive to X-Box and Gamepass"

That is what they would say if what your saying was true. Unless there marketing department is deeply incompetent.

 

[Iced Arcade]

The sooner you guys can accept that future titles are exclusive, sooner you can start coming up with "how much this game sucks anyways" replies

 

[McCarth]

Personally I think the games will only be on Xbox, but man is it weird that he simply isn't just saying that...

 

[Stuart360]

"Existing games will he continually supported throughout their lifespan, however any new games will be exclusive to X-Box and Gamepass"

That is what they would say if what your saying was true. Unless there marketing department is deeply incompetent.

Its business talk/schpeel. Its one step below politician talk, thats business.
Anyway this -

what they should feel is a huge investment in the experience they're going to have in the Xbox ecosystem, and we want the Xbox ecosystem to be the absolute best place to play and we think game availability is absolutely part of that.

Well you dont need to be a phsychologist to understand what he's saying here. He's basically saying what you're saying.

 

[wolffy71]

Well that's not what he stated.

I'll quote him again: "I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games"

Where does that quote and line of thinking say "We think it's ok to lock people into our platforms, but among our platforms we don't want to limit people."

You guys are misunderstanding me. I'm laughing at him because he is such an obvious corporate shill he can't get his "story" straight if his life depended on it. I have Xbox stuff. I play games on Xbox. My series X is locked and loaded. I don't care at alllllll about platform wars. This is about Phil being an idiot.

U seem angry tho

 

[Andodalf]

"Existing games will he continually supported throughout their lifespan, however any new games will be exclusive to X-Box and Gamepass"

That is what they would say if what your saying was true. Unless there marketing department is deeply incompetent.

That only makes any sense if you start from an assumption that the games will go to other platforms, which is not at all how first party games work

 

[GamerEDM]

Half the shit that comes out of his mouth is absolutely nothing. Every AAA will be on all platforms because it is what the board desires to make a profit after paying 7.5Bil dollars.
Basically "on a case by case basis" means AAA gets to be on PS5, filler garbage like the new Arkane AA online GaaS game "Exclusive to Xbox"

you are in stage 2. Don't worry it gets better

 

[LeftThumbstick]

Todd has literally said numerous times that Morrowind coming to Xbox saved the company.

Yeah it probably did i just haven't heard that. It's just people out looking to blindly hate Xbox because some of their favourite franchises are now Exclusive to Microsoft systems only.