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Why do all MS boys call Demon's Souls remake a remaster even when they know it's a remake? The amount of fear, uncertainty and doubt surrounding Demon's Souls is amusing to see. Even funnier that he thinks it's a two year old game. As usual I respond with the trailer again



This is the Shadowfall moment.
 

Allandor

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So if we’re talking about Modern Warfare here (takes up 155GB on my PS4):

155/3.16 = It’ll only take up 49GB if Kraken compression and Oodle Texture’s used

Yea I think we’ll do just fine with 825GB.
Really? ... Are people really assuming that everything on current gen is uncompressed?
Guess what, even on PS4 textures are compressed (with loss .. maybe even with oodle texture as it works with almost every compression) before compressed via any other lossless compression format (like zip). We are talking about maybe 10% difference here. And maybe another 10% because of duplicate-reduction. But textures tend to be higher res, so games will tend to be bigger than before.
 
Why do all MS boys call Demon's Souls remake a remaster even when they know it's a remake? The amount of fear, uncertainty and doubt surrounding Demon's Souls is amusing to see. Even funnier that he thinks it's a two year old game. As usual I respond with the trailer again



This is the Shadowfall moment.

I don't know why they call it a remaster, maybe to make it seem like it is less relevant?
But I think even them know the difference between a remake and a remaster, just decide to ignore it.
 

Gloggins

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We're only 46 (Xbox), 48-55 (PS5) days until launch, let's get hyped. What's the first game everyone will be playing on their shiny new consoles?
Mine will probably be Demon's Souls or CoD if I get it, the beta was a bit meh though (also blurry as fuck on the Pro).
Demon's Souls! That game is gonna do so well. Exciting to think what that could lead to.

After that probably catching up on PS4 games via BC until Resi 8 or Ratchet.
 
I don't know why they call it a remaster, maybe to make it seem like it is less relevant?
But I think even them know the difference between a remake and a remaster, just decide to ignore it.

It's an effort to make it seem less relevant and unimportant because if you can't then you're face to face with a truly mind blowing next generation title and that is hard to accept.
 

demigod

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So Football Manager is coming to Xbox but not PS5 🤔
I know it's only football... But the game has a huge following so....

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🤔

Sounds to me like they wanted free dev kits and Sony told them to go kick rocks.
 
Looking for Sony to ramp up some more information next week, if they do so. I would say Microsoft as well.

We're only a couple of weeks from these systems being out in a month and we're still waiting to see the UI, potential PS+ and PS Now revamps, what improvements PS5 grants to PS4 games, etc. Is Bugsnax also a launch title? What of Ratchet? Is there a complete list of confirmed launch titles for Day 1?

On the Microsoft side, roughly the same with UI, potential Xbox Live changes, how their SSD compares, and even a title of reasonable note running actively on the XSX hardware. What games are definitively hitting Day 1 with your console?

There's also the egregious issue of more mainstream titles not shown yet that traditionally come at launch. What will NBA 2K, Madden, etc. bring to the table? We haven't seen recent trailers(unless I missed it)

Assassin's Creed talks a big game on 4k, have they shown the next gen version?

We saw early trailers in June, time for a more recent showing.
 
Weren't they sold out?

I've been updating the UK GAF thread regularly and on time. If people were watching that thread you could have checked out multiple times.

 
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Rea

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Why do all MS boys call Demon's Souls remake a remaster even when they know it's a remake? The amount of fear, uncertainty and doubt surrounding Demon's Souls is amusing to see. Even funnier that he thinks it's a two year old game. As usual I respond with the trailer again



This is the Shadowfall moment.

The amount of downplaying the game from them, is hilarious. Their minds couldn't accept reality because what they saw was a game looks like CGI graphics and it doesn't exist on their favorite plastic box, yet.
Edit: i mean a game with CGI graphics will come eventually but not demon souls.
 
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Loxus

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Reading this further and they gave an example taken from an actual game and the compression ratio was 3.16 to 1 when using Kraken + Oodle Textures, that means the 5.5 GB/s x 3.16 = 17.38 GB/s of compressed data. That is HUGE!

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And don't forget what Mark Cerny said, which make it even more immense.
"After decompression that typically becomes 8 or 9 gigabytes, but the unit itself is capable of outputting as much as 22 gigabytes a second if the data is compressed particularly well."
 
We're only 46 (Xbox), 48-55 (PS5) days until launch, let's get hyped. What's the first game everyone will be playing on their shiny new consoles?
Mine will probably be Demon's Souls or CoD if I get it, the beta was a bit meh though (also blurry as fuck on the Pro).
By default It'll be Astro's Playroom, but I think the first real game I play will be Cyberpunk 2077.
 

AeneaGames

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Seagate is trash. I have 2 external 3tb hdd that died on me. One of them died within 2 years.

Problem is tho that sort of thing can happen with any brand out there.
I've been around for a while, used every brand hdd under the sun, had many good ones of each but also crappy of each. It happens. If all Seagate drives were bad they would not still exist...
 

Bo_Hazem

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We're only 46 (Xbox), 48-55 (PS5) days until launch, let's get hyped. What's the first game everyone will be playing on their shiny new consoles?
Mine will probably be Demon's Souls or CoD if I get it, the beta was a bit meh though (also blurry as fuck on the Pro).

Spidy! Secured Pulse 3D with the console, paid 260 OMR upfront ($676). Might arrive in 20th of Nov. as it should come from the capital, 1200km away.:messenger_confounded:
 
Reality Check:
Those Games are using higher quality textures, assets, etc.
Which I'm pretty much sure increases size from modding Skyrim.
But if it was on a HDD it would be like 15-30GB, because of the duplicated high quality textures.
So, you are also expecting COD to weigh about ...49Gb on ps5 just like the post I quoted? interesting...:messenger_beaming:
 

Bo_Hazem

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Really? Lol, covid really fucked up my perception of time. Then I'm going to say Forza Horizon 4

FH4 already looks very nice and runs 4K@60fps on X1X. It'll only be boost mode at best, like PS5 boost mode for BC. If no major enhancements, let's not mention it.
 
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hemo memo

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Streaming service as the next virtual platform is a nightmare for me who loves a piece of hardware, a console in the living room.

I love tradition, I don want this for the Future. I Hope luna flops hard.

Streaming service is not the future. Not the close one that’s for sure. There’s a reason why these consoles sell millions. The world is more than the US.
 

Loxus

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So, you are also expecting COD to weigh about ...49Gb on ps5 just like the post I quoted? interesting...:messenger_beaming:
I don't know tbh.
COD is a unique case, because it's bigger than RDR2.
Which puzzles me, I'll have to see a break down off COD files to find out why it's size is so large.
But I think the SSD and I/O would only shave off about 30GB off COD if it was remade for the PS5.
I could be wrong though.
 
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FH4 already looks very nice and runs 4K@60fps on X1X. It'll only be boost mode at best, like PS5 boost mode for BC. If no major enhancements, let's not mention it.
No... Microsoft explicitly said that FH4 will be optimized for XSX. Here's a comment directly from the developer themselves. Educate yourself, before discussing a console you know nothing about apparently.

 
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