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Seagate - 1TB Game Drive for Xbox Series X and Series S Is $220 / 270€
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Calverz
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I dont agree. But it was on choice or the other. Microsoft have gone with this route instead. Which i prefer because it brings back little cool memory cardsDamn has people because so lazy as to not take two bolts out to out something in you more then likely won't have to take out for a long time to get a fair price vs paying 60 bucks more for "plug and play" convenience? Smh
recursive
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I guess pc master race is fucked.
Insane Metal
Member
That price, fucking lol.
Bunker Hosted
Member
2.4 gbps and 1 Terabyte should not be $220. thats utter nonsense.
you can get those for a $100 on newegg.
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Except those are PCIe3 NVMe at the 100$ price; Sony is pushing hard for PCIe4 which makes sense due to the massive amount of I/O that these games will do..
JimboJones
Member
Memory expansion always gonna be expensive, there is just no getting around it at the moment for these kinds of specifications.
killatopak
Member
It’s basically running at PCIE3 speeds though. Normal PCIE4 SSDs has four lanes but this has 2 lanes. Technically it’s PCIE4 but it just for cost cutting measures.
$220 is overpriced. Plenty of SSDs for the same speeds are cheaper.
killatopak
Member
For those complaining about Seagate reliability, I don’t think it’ll be as bad as you think it is.
SSD are a different thing from HDDs. No need to worry about it failing. Most of the failure of HDDs are because of the mechanical nature of it which SSDs don’t have. If you have the money to shell for it and need that space then go for it.
SSD are a different thing from HDDs. No need to worry about it failing. Most of the failure of HDDs are because of the mechanical nature of it which SSDs don’t have. If you have the money to shell for it and need that space then go for it.
The Leaked Truths
Banned
These new Consoles are really a great value if you hink about how much already an SSD costs. Unbelievable 
Farawayfromhell
Member
Maybe for Xmas....
Thirty7ven
Banned
220$ for a very low end PCIE4 ssd????
Really lowers the value of the XSS.
Really lowers the value of the XSS.
MightySquirrel
Banned
I'd rather get 10 TB HDD for the same price and just back up some games on that. When you want to play just dump from that 10 TB HDD into your stock SSD. [maybe back up all your saves into HDD as well since online storage is still not 100% reliable]
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Don't worry folks, Xbox has no games so you won't need this.
I'll buy one when they drop to 150.
I'll buy one when they drop to 150.
MarkMe2525
Member
I never said that. Me saying MS doesn't set the price for Seagate is not saying they don't receive a license fee.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So for Xbox, you buy the Seagate 1 tb card and plug it into the back and now your system has 2 tb total.
For PS5, it has no easy port to add a Samsung? Or you have to open it up and SWAP SSD? So if you buy the 1 tb Samsung 980, you really only have 1 tb of SSD accessible unless you swap back and forth with the SSD it came with?
For PS5, it has no easy port to add a Samsung? Or you have to open it up and SWAP SSD? So if you buy the 1 tb Samsung 980, you really only have 1 tb of SSD accessible unless you swap back and forth with the SSD it came with?
THE:MILKMAN
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Yeah I completely disagree with Jeff Grubb about it being fairly priced. Expected? Yes, but still a big mark-up of an already marked-up product in the PC space.
1, This works out to 75% the cost of the XSS where it is needed most being a 512GB digital console. The 360 20GB HDD was £70 in comparison. I don't expect price to come down much either as a couple of years later Microsoft brought out the 120GB HDD....for £130.
2, Next week you can pick-up this far better spec'd and longer warranty PCIe4x4 1TB drive for $150 retail: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1609...-40-x4-nvme-ssd-for-notebooks-gammix-s50-lite
I doubt it will be too long until you can get a same capacity drive for the PS5 for less money.
1, This works out to 75% the cost of the XSS where it is needed most being a 512GB digital console. The 360 20GB HDD was £70 in comparison. I don't expect price to come down much either as a couple of years later Microsoft brought out the 120GB HDD....for £130.
2, Next week you can pick-up this far better spec'd and longer warranty PCIe4x4 1TB drive for $150 retail: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1609...-40-x4-nvme-ssd-for-notebooks-gammix-s50-lite
I doubt it will be too long until you can get a same capacity drive for the PS5 for less money.
ps5 most likely have internal socket accessible to the user for the new samsung drives, $230 for 1tb so a little more expensive than this.
Woo-Fu
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So what does that mean? It means that for Seagate to make a profit they have to factor in that license fee when setting pricing. That isn't greed, it is basic math. The only wiggle-room in the equation is how much MS charges for the licensing/branding. Everything else is a fixed cost.
The only alternative is these peripherals not existing at all unless Microsoft themselves produce them.
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DrumNBassDanTTV
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Its not a bloody memory card its an Nvme ssd, for a decent one here in the UK its about £160.. and that's a Samsung evo, the price for this in the UK is £159 (Rumoured)...its a decent price but obviously if you have no idea of value then just buy an external HDD/SSD
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
I'm holding fire on that leaked price as it would mean it being cheaper than in the US even though that price would include 20% VAT. I would expect it to be £180-£200 in the UK given the US price.
MarkMe2525
Member
I'm not sure what your going on about tbh. No one is debating that MS charges a license fee and it is plainly obvious that Seagate takes that into account while setting a price. I was referring to someone else's statement when you decided to quote me. Go rant to someone else.
tryDEATH
Member
$220 is just too much I didn't expect they were going with Gen4 SSD's I was almost certain it would be Gen3 SSD's due to the speed. Gen4 SSD's fulfill PS5 required speeds, but just seem overkill for Xbox Series.
That's a good question, because we could at least get significantly faster transfer speeds from the external drive to internal drive with a external SSD so swapping games back and forth wouldn't be as time consuming.
That's a good question, because we could at least get significantly faster transfer speeds from the external drive to internal drive with a external SSD so swapping games back and forth wouldn't be as time consuming.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Wait so if you buy the Series S and the SSD you will have spent $30 more than the Series X have only 512GB more storage but a console that has 1/3 the power!? WTF.
Potato Chip PRO
Member
I'll wait for a sale in the future. And the mean time, I'll stick it's internal SSD.
Aguero9320
Member
It’s a little too much IMO - going to hold off and see how it goes first few weeks.
If it’s not too painful to manage I’m in at the first sale/price drop.
If it’s not too painful to manage I’m in at the first sale/price drop.
IntentionalPun
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It is pretty hilarious how many people (on both systems) are going to be swapping games sitting there waiting for 2 100GB file transfers to/from some old USB drive for who knows how long....
.. to experience short load times (mostly all we are getting IMO.)
.. to experience short load times (mostly all we are getting IMO.)
DESTROYA
Member
Can you store and play games from GamePass from a external HDD ? Or do you have to transfer those game to internal storage also?
Can you direct what games go to a particular drive ?
For example you store GP games and play them from the HDD and store games specifically made for the XsX on internal storage.
Can you direct what games go to a particular drive ?
For example you store GP games and play them from the HDD and store games specifically made for the XsX on internal storage.
Arkam
Member
Ouch this is not cheap upgrade (when are they ever). We all know price will go down eventually, but at the same time expectations will rise. With the feature (as I understand) of hot swapping drives.... why not do smaller drives? I mean if just to put extra games on and swap them in when I want that game, a 250GB drive would be fine. Though not a disk manufacturer and it might have cost as much and no savings to the consumer.
Endless Fluff
Banned
I've been telling people to not expect cheap prices for storage expansions, but I was expecting around 199. 220 is steep, but not unreasonable.
www.newegg.com
Now add some DRAM to that form factor and you'd pay around 170-180 bucks. This is sadly the problem with small form factors, especially for SSDs since there is only so much room to fit NAND and other chips.
m.2 SSDs with a 2242 form factor aren't as cheap, though. There is actually barely anyone selling these SSDs as PCIe, most are SATA3... the only one I could find was a Sabrent and it was DRAM less, so sustained write/read speeds aren't as great.2.4 gbps and 1 Terabyte should not be $220. thats utter nonsense.
you can get those for a $100 on newegg.
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Now add some DRAM to that form factor and you'd pay around 170-180 bucks. This is sadly the problem with small form factors, especially for SSDs since there is only so much room to fit NAND and other chips.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
It is but its arguably even more hilarious to expect a demographic choosing the XSS because it is far cheaper at £249 but then expecting them to spend a further ~£200 on a storage card. That is the same price as the £449 1TB XSX when combined!
GlassAwful
Member
When you're spending half an hour transferring games you want to play off your external, suddenly trying out xCloud doesn't seem like a bad idea.
RafterXL
Member
Jesus, a lot of whining about a completely optional upgrade. I can't wait until the PS5 compatible drives show up and people lose thier minds.
As far as we know the PS5 isn't actually "expandable" anyway, it's replaceable, which means you'll need a 2 tb card, which will be far more expensive than this. And even if the mythical "expansion slot" does exist, you're going to have to crack open your system to install it.
I'll take hot swap tb drives over Sony's solution any day of the week. The price will go down and halfway through next gen you'll be able to pop these suckers in and out like memory cards as opposed to constantly taking your console apart.
As far as we know the PS5 isn't actually "expandable" anyway, it's replaceable, which means you'll need a 2 tb card, which will be far more expensive than this. And even if the mythical "expansion slot" does exist, you're going to have to crack open your system to install it.
I'll take hot swap tb drives over Sony's solution any day of the week. The price will go down and halfway through next gen you'll be able to pop these suckers in and out like memory cards as opposed to constantly taking your console apart.
Gorki247
Member
I was wondering if I missed the official explanation. Do we know if it will be through an expansion slot (adding in an extra drive) or replacing the existing drive with something bigger? I assume it is the former, but cannot seem to find the details.
IntentionalPun
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How is it mythical?
Cerny described in detail how the PS5 has an expansion bay during a presentation.. said it is smaller than some current NVME drives so won't accept all drives, and will have really high speed requirements, etc.,etc.
Have you seen the PS5? The thing has room for an expansion bay especially a small one lol
I am really confused by how it's this 12 channel monster for their built in SSD but nobody is making those drives at all for off the shelf.. how is an advertised 7Gb/second enough to overcome that when the PS5 SSD is 5.5GB/second raw with all those channels and crazy tech behind it?
Andodalf
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But are they the small form factor? Microsoft have gone to the half length NVME for their surface products and now for this, and I don't even know where this stuff can be had commercially.
Nikana
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Doesnt matter if they are in GP or not. It depends if its on Series X/S. Series X/S games (that are optimized for those machines) have to be on the SSD to play. You can store them on an external drive but they have to be transferred to the SSD before they will launch.
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KingdomHeartsFan
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It doesn't matter, I'm not paying $220 for 1tb of storage lol. If PS5 costs more that doesn't suddenly make this amazing.
Rocco Schiavone
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DrumNBassDanTTV
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NullZ3r0
Banned
That thingbisnt going to sustain that throughput. The MS one is engineered to do so.2.4 gbps and 1 Terabyte should not be $220. thats utter nonsense.
you can get those for a $100 on newegg.
Newegg,1TB,960GB,2000 to 2999 MBps Internal SSDs | Newegg.com
Shop Newegg,1TB,960GB,2000 to 2999 MBps Internal SSDs on Newegg.com. Watch for amazing deals and get great pricing.