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[kretos]

Nice of you to stand up for your fellow creatures of the sea
Here's what nextgen enhanced games gamepass gets you for free on day one:
Destiny, the full package including Beyond Light
Forza Horizon 4
Gears of War 5
Ori 2
Gears Tactics
Sea of thieves
Outer Wordls
Tetris connected
on top add whatever nextgen enhanced EA PLAY has, and whatever more will microsoft announce the following months.
and for when you are bored, around 200 other games to browse, with a serious amount of them already being dynamic 4k on the xbone x machine

like Geoff said basic cable and all i want is HBO

 

[TLZ]

PS5 will be at $500.

Most probably, but I have this tiny hope and feeling it's $449.

 

[kretos]

But Phil said console wars are stupid Seems like no one in the Xbox division got the memo.

it's ok that's aaron everyone knows he's a clown

 

[Kusarigama]

To all this, I love this music.

Does anyone know if it is original or well-known music? Someone knows? Thnx

Courtesy of Geoff Keighley twitter, apparently this was also used in Destiny 2: Shadowkeep trailer in June

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

Come on guys get your tickets

One ticket please sir!

 

[itsnotme]

Come on guys get your tickets

May I have one 1st class ticket kind sir!!

 

[Empire Strikes Back]

Why ask? Are you a sony ninja?

(Btw, are they real? and that they lurk the forums?)

Yes

 

[Cyan12629]

Come on guys get your tickets

one ticket please!

 

[Hondo4]

Come on guys get your tickets

One ticket please

 

[Blitzmangoman]

TGO you know what you have to do. I wanna lick the Doritos Popes face. Put me right next to him. Huehuehue.

 

[Angelcurio]

Just started the 4th DLC.

 

[thebigmanjosh]

Come on guys get your tickets

Lemme hop on this bad boy

 

[Self High Five]

If PS5 Digital end up at $399, that kills XsS for anybody that takes a closer look beyond being an opportunistic consumer.

Xbox One being $299 since 2016, and the Xbox 360 Arcade launching at $299 in 2005 killed any prospect of XSS moving the needle.

It's not as if Xbox was always exclusively a high end console machine that sold at a high price and this is the first time MS dipping their toes into the casual market. Xbox for 19 years has consistently offered the cheapest consoles on the market (with the exception of the launch of Xbox One at $499 which only lasted for less than 6 months), and it hasn't made much difference in marketshare.

Hell, the Xbox One S All Digital Edition was being sold as low as $199 in 2019 at one point. Perfect 'gamepass box', right? Well, nevermind that. End of 2020 will be different this time.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Who the hell preorders a digital title? It's not like they'll run out of downloads. The only reason to preorder a digital game is if there's a discount for doing so, and even then, there'll always be a better sale later. Are people this reckless with their money?

Pre order bonuses like skins, maps, characters, etc.

 

[Aladin]

If PS5 Digital end up at $399, that kills XsS for anybody that takes a closer look beyond being an opportunistic consumer.

Bigger storage, more memory, 4k class, full fat PS5 experience minus the optical.

Will be interesting.

Gamepass makes the digital console viable. Digital downloads are just too costly.
And besides I think Microsoft will price series s even lower for emerging markets of south america, Asia and eastern Europe.

 

[Neo Blaster]

But they said they’re not going to open pre-orders on a moment’s notice. Pre-order now would pretty much crash Amazon.

It doesn't matter if Sony say 'pre-orders open now' or 'within some days'. The moment it begins, every known outlet site doing it will crash.

 

[Ptarmiganx2]

Pre order bonuses like skins, maps, characters, etc.

I do it to support the developers even if I won’t get to the game for a few months. The bonuses certainly help with my decision. I picked up every Sony 1st party this generation. Never disappointed.

 

[Neo Blaster]

So, bear with me, please, I have been away for most of the day, and like 30 new pages sprouted up... so since the new showcase on September 16th will be around 40 minutes long, I don't think there will be a teardown and probably (yet again) no UI, resume, boot up time, switching between games and so on.

At least this is what I got from the PlayStation Blog; just some great games, and that was pretty much that was mentioned. You guys think there will be something more than that present, in that limited timeframe?

There's always that placeholder on PAX Online.

 

[Gamerguy84]

Only 87 hours left until we have release date. Hopefully they open pre orders.

 

[Larryfox]

PS5 $550
PS5 DE $500 / $450

 

[quest]

Xbox One being $299 since 2016, and the Xbox 360 Arcade launching at $299 in 2005 killed any prospect of XSS moving the needle.

It's not as if Xbox was always exclusively a high end console machine that sold at a high price and this is the first time MS dipping their toes into the casual market. Xbox for 19 years has consistently offered the cheapest consoles on the market (with the exception of the launch of Xbox One at $499 which only lasted for less than 6 months), and it hasn't made much difference in marketshare.

Hell, the Xbox One S All Digital Edition was being sold as low as $199 in 2019 at one point. Perfect 'gamepass box', right? Well, nevermind that. End of 2020 will be different this time.

Yes because the losing system has had so much success at the end of generations at cheap prices lol. It is cute to think that you think the wii,dreamcast and gamecube were more expensive than the og xbox and 360. It is also cute you some how think this is about Microsoft winning the generation lol. This is about selling enough consoles and gamepass subscriptions to keep the lights on. I know they should just be a cheap Sony knock off. Inexile should stop making RPGs for a Uncharted clone, Microsoft should buy asbo to make a ghosts of tsushima clone, obsidian entertainment should make a spiderman clone. There should be no diversity only Sony games count.

 

[Aladin]

Xbox One being $299 since 2016, and the Xbox 360 Arcade launching at $299 in 2005 killed any prospect of XSS moving the needle.

It's not as if Xbox was always exclusively a high end console machine that sold at a high price and this is the first time MS dipping their toes into the casual market. Xbox for 19 years has consistently offered the cheapest consoles on the market (with the exception of the launch of Xbox One at $499 which only lasted for less than 6 months), and it hasn't made much difference in marketshare.

Hell, the Xbox One S All Digital Edition was being sold as low as $199 in 2019 at one point. Perfect 'gamepass box', right? Well, nevermind that. End of 2020 will be different this time.

Even in car industry the market share rarely changes from year to year. But every decade or so, Companies change their designs, and have new tie ups, then they gain significant market share ex : Hyundai, Kia. Design change is a facade, the companies are able to reduce cost of cars which along with design change changes brand perception.

You can't rule out the same thing also happens with games industry.

 

[Neo Blaster]

My god if those madmen actually show HFW gameplay our jaws will be on the floor.
That pristine next-gen moment we need.

Only thing bothering me is the quality of the live stream, can we at least have a 4k option this time?

 

[quest]

Even in car industry the market share rarely changes from year to year. But every decade or so, Companies change their designs, and have new tie ups, then they gain significant market share ex : Hyundai, Kia. Design change is a facade, the companies are able to reduce cost of cars which along with design change changes brand perception.

You can't rule out the same thing also happens with games industry.

No Sony was going to win no matter what with 70% market share. The job of Microsoft is to find a way to bring in new customers or some of those 100 million who left this generation. Competition against 99 cent tablet apps was a blow. A low entry box plus gamepass is a possible way to get back some of those who left the market. Also with 70 dollar games it helps enforce the value of gamepass to families who might not get a console.

 

[aclar00]

welcome aboard!

put me in coach

 

[Ancient Gamer]

Come on guys get your tickets

One ticket please. Is a Seniors discount available?

 

[roops67]

Holly shit that thread!!

Seriously this is considered talent? Extremely childish fanboy material, wouldn't be surprised if was done by Aaron himself. And not least surprised by your enjoyment over it really reflects your maturity level

 

[sircaw]

Cool your jetsam, flotsam...

I have given you and mammoth meow AeneaGames a wide birth the last few weeks, mind you the last bit is about spot on under the right circumstances.

Anyways watch yourself i am almost back to 10% normal working capacity, only need 5% to deal with you two.

 

[Saberus]

Come on guys get your tickets

One ticket please

 

[Self High Five]

Yes because the losing system has had so much success at the end of generations at cheap prices lol.

By definition, if you're 'losing' you wouldn't be having 'so much success' to begin with so I'm not sure where your getting at here.

Consumers, particularly casuals (the audience MS is trying to market towards with XSS) doesn't care who is 'winning' or 'losing' a console war if the product provides enough value:

See PS2 games taking 5 out of the top 10 spots in the NPD rankings in 2006:

news

news

www.gamasutra.com

It is cute to think that you think the wii,dreamcast and gamecube were more expensive than the og xbox and 360

Dreamcast was about to be discontinued and the 360 was the same price as the Wii ($299) but I should have been more accurate and say for almost 15 years.

It is also cute you some how think this is about Microsoft winning the generation lol.

I said moving the needle, not winning the generation

I know they should just be a cheap Sony knock off.

Sony and MS are offering almost identical consoles where the vast majority of titles are shared on both consoles. Calling it a cheap knock off may not be far off the mark.

Even in car industry the market share rarely changes from year to year. But every decade or so, Companies change their designs, and have new tie ups, then they gain significant market share ex : Hyundai, Kia. Design change is a facade, the companies are able to reduce cost of cars which along with design change changes brand perception.

You can't rule out the same thing also happens with games industry.

You explained Nintendo's strategy for the last 15 years which actually yielded them varying degrees of success, particularity with the Switch & Wii.

Gamepass has been out since 2017. Xbox One has been $299 since 2016. Xbox 360 was $299 in 2005.

MS is not offering anything different at the end of 2020 then they have for almost the last 3 years (powerful console/affordable console; subscription services). So your analogy doesn't really fit here.

 

[Larryfox]

Sony has been telling us that the Ps5 won’t be cheap but y’all still expect a $399 Console

 

[bitbydeath]

Sony has been telling us that the Ps5 won’t be cheap but y’all still expect a $399 Console

Where’d you hear that from?
Previously they indicated it wouldn’t be expensive.

I believe that we will be able to release it at an SRP [suggested retail price] that will be appealing to gamers in light of its advanced feature set.

Sony's Mark Cerny says PS5 price "will be appealing in light of its advanced feature set"

PlayStation architect at Sony, Mark Cerny, is hopeful the PS5's feature set will justify the price of the console.

www.vg247.com

 

[lepermessiah]

Can someone explain the whole L1 cache situation re 4 shader arrays feeding 14 CUs or whatever it was in Series Sex. geordiemp ?

 

[harry mason 1989]

Come on guys get your tickets

ticket please
let the hype begin

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Nice of you to stand up for your fellow creatures of the sea
Here's what nextgen enhanced games gamepass gets you for free on day one:
Destiny, the full package including Beyond Light
Forza Horizon 4
Gears of War 5
Ori 2
Gears Tactics
Sea of thieves
Outer Wordls
Tetris connected
on top add whatever nextgen enhanced EA PLAY has, and whatever more will microsoft announce the following months.
and for when you are bored, around 200 other games to browse, with a serious amount of them already being dynamic 4k on the xbone x machine

How you managed to keep a straight face after typing that, I'll never know

 

[existensmaximum]

Imagi

The most mindblowing thing would be after showing all the dope gameplay, and announce some super high most wanted games like GOW2 and FF16, then the show will close with GTA6 trailer announced as PS5 exclusive (time probably, and that was the 750M $ deal), then end it with release date and price announcement, preorders will go insane crazy after. But here i'm just going ultra crazy miles, ain't gonna happen like this lmao.

Imagine GTA6 as a PS5 exclusive, carefully optimized to take advantage of that hardware and nothing else...

Oh what a dream. But only a dream of course.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Gamepass makes the digital console viable. Digital downloads are just too costly.
And besides I think Microsoft will price series s even lower for emerging markets of south america, Asia and eastern Europe.

No they won't. If they release in some of those markets it will be more expensive, unless we're talking 3 to 4 years down the line..
Eastern Europe has price parity with the rest of the continent.

 

[TGO]

Welcome aboard harry mason 1989 Saberus Ancient Gamer aclar00 thebigmanjosh Blitzmangoman Hondo4 Cyan12629 itsnotme TheAmazingSpiderMan

 

[Clarissa]

Guys. Do u think the Ps5 will ship with a HDMI 2.1 cable?

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Zheph]

Welcome aboard harry mason 1989 Saberus Ancient Gamer aclar00 thebigmanjosh Blitzmangoman Hondo4 Cyan12629 itsnotme TheAmazingSpiderMan

I want in

 

[existensmaximum]

The graphics look majorly improved, night and day difference! omg!!!

That's really super smooth and fluid.

 

[Md Ray]

I'm beginning to think the teardown will come only after AMD reveal RDNA2 cards.

If you're implying it's because of NDA by AMD - then it doesn't make sense to me as we already sort of had XSX "teardown" vids from DF & Austin Evans back in March, and also got a glimpse at the XSS's internals from the renders. We've had a nice breakdown by the engineers themselves of the cooling solution XSX is using, how it works, the thought process behind choosing that design which ultimately lead to that unusual tower-like form factor (for a console), down to its fan size.

I just want to see something similar for PS5. I'm mainly curious about the cooling solution since Mark Cerny teased us with: "you'll be quite happy with what the engineering team came up with." And also because I wanna know how they managed to hit over 2.2 GHz GPU frequency, surely the cooling solution must be something else for them to allow such high clocks, and it isn't even going to throttle due to silicon temperature like it does on PC GPUs. What happens when the PS5 is operating in hot ambient conditions?

 

[TGO]

I want in

 

[Ghekkus]

Conductor, I would like a one way ticket please.

 

[CrysisFreak]

You think no one has fucked up so far?

Not royally like in 2013 yes.

 

[CrysisFreak]

But Phil said console wars are stupid Seems like no one in the Xbox division got the memo.

My goodness Aaron is such a deadweight. Probably harms the division with this.
Banger.

 

[TrippleA345]

But Phil said console wars are stupid Seems like no one in the Xbox division got the memo.

This is sad.

 

[Zheph]

Greenberg is such a toxic idiot

 

[Zzpaff]

what sony should do after the revelation is to put the ps5 games in the store to pay and reserve, so they would divide the expense and November would be even better ... someone get them the idea ...