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FranXico
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It's more than enough for a 4TF GPU.Xss ramn is 220 gb/s
Almost same as ps4
Yikes
Dodkrake
Banned
This is what they said. They just showed how incompetent their marketing is. First they pushed the power narrative, now they say a 4TF console with 226GB/s ram bandwidth is enough for full next-gen with ray tracing and all that good stuff.
Basically you don't need the Series X, according to their marketing (which targets casuals, not us).
I'll probably buy the Series S eventually if I don't upgrade my GPU, but damn, is their marketing horrible or not?
Empire Strikes Back
Member
Don’t you know? Xbox will be double the time anything the PS5 loads. /sXss ssd 12 seconds for a last gen gameI guess velocity architecture didn't get the memo to be 3 seconds according to some
Agnostic2020
Member
Cpu for xss is clocked lower.
8c 16t 3.4 ghz
8c 8t 3.6 ghz
8c 16t 3.4 ghz
8c 8t 3.6 ghz
Dodkrake
Banned
Well, now watch those that said "3.5 to 3.6 is HUGE" say "it's only 200Mhz, negligible".
And btw, the second sentence is correct.
zaitsu
Banned
Ouch it hurtsXss ssd 12 seconds for a last gen game
Great Hair
Banned
$299 for the PS5 DE ($150 loss per console)
$399 for the PS5 BD ($100 loss per console)
total $250 loss per sold PS5
versus
$299 loss per unsold XSS (why buy one, if PS5 DE is cheap)
$200 loss per sold XSX (new price @$350, to remain competitive)
total $499 to $599 loss per sold XSS, XSX
DO IT SONY!!
FranXico
Member
I guess there was no gain in clocking it higher.
Entroyp
Member
There goes Tom Warren’s already sketchy credibility.....
kyliethicc
Member
Series S specs
CPU - 8 cores / 16 threads @ 3.6 / 3.4 GHz
GPU - RDNA 2 (nothing else mentioned in video)
edit - 20 CUs @ 1.565 GHz
8 GB GDDR6 @ 224 GB/s and 2 GB @ 56 GB/s
512 GB/s SSD @ 2.4 GB/s raw
dedicated hardware for 4K upscaling
dedicated I/O decompressor
CPU - 8 cores / 16 threads @ 3.6 / 3.4 GHz
GPU - RDNA 2 (nothing else mentioned in video)
edit - 20 CUs @ 1.565 GHz
8 GB GDDR6 @ 224 GB/s and 2 GB @ 56 GB/s
512 GB/s SSD @ 2.4 GB/s raw
dedicated hardware for 4K upscaling
dedicated I/O decompressor
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saintjules
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chilichote
Member
This means that all 3rd party games are developed on this basis. And so Sony's "weaker" CPU in comparison to the XSeX is no longer an issue.
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FranXico
Member
Tom Warren, WindowsCentral, wffctech, etc.
Agnostic2020
Member
He can still falsely say 8c 8t xss vs 8c 16 t ps5 . But that's false
LucidFlux
Member
Huh so XsS CPU is actually a touch slower than XsX at 3.4(with SMT)/3.6(8 threads). I wonder if they hit a cooling limit with that small form factor.
I wonder if in CPU limited scenarios this could give slightly more stable framerates on the X vs S, and it could lead to slightly faster loading on X as well.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
xacto
Member
Wow... So Twitter if the new medium for announcing a new console generation... Anyone else feel a little underwhelmed.
As long as I can get to play my games on the PS5 sometime this year (if possible), they could announce it on Pornhub for all I care.
Entroyp
Member
And suddenly 224 GB/s is enough for ray tracing
hahahaha this thing is going to kill so many future arguments for xbox fans...
xacto
Member
It's all in the wording... "pretty damn impressive" which should be translated as "it's kinda bad, but what did you expect"
3liteDragon
Member
DaGwaphics
Member
Well, I guessed the innards completely wrong, but I mean the shape was right so that's got to count for something. LOL
Is there only 4 GDDR6 chips in there?
kyliethicc
Member
Exactly, you save $2.50/month. But you are locked into paying for game pass ultimate for 2 years until you pay off your console debt.
Empire Strikes Back
Member
saintjules
Member
Wow... So Twitter if the new medium for announcing a new console generation... Anyone else feel a little underwhelmed.
I guess we are seeing Twitter being the prime platform that shows a large number of reactions to posts. It makes followers feel that they're more in reach with the Companies that tweet.
If anything, Sony proved those numbers with their fair share of reveals for the PS5 so far. Even their PS5 logo reveal on instagram showed crazy numbers on just that alone. Then media outlets will play second fiddle and collect the pieces to extend the life of such posts. What better way?
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3liteDragon
Member
This dumb mofo...
Dodkrake
Banned
You are, my brain is fucked after spending lunch on a massive DNS incident
It's even worse than I quoted.
Also, quick resume takes 4s for minecraft. Assuming full occupancy, 2.5GB/s
Absolutely horrible.
xGreir
Member
Why.... Why are ppl saying now that 220gb/s is... Enough?
"It is enough for 4 TF".... Well, yeah.... For 4 old arquitecture TF at 1080p without RayTracing and any next Gen improvements, sure....
I don't know how are they going to manage XboxS, but I wish for the developers to make their ports for XboxS the last thing, downgrading everything they can, and not even trying to make any concession/parity with the other versions, or third party games are going to be really fucked up...
Microsoft, I can understand ur moves from a comercial pov, but for the sake of the games, gosh, fuck you.
"It is enough for 4 TF".... Well, yeah.... For 4 old arquitecture TF at 1080p without RayTracing and any next Gen improvements, sure....
I don't know how are they going to manage XboxS, but I wish for the developers to make their ports for XboxS the last thing, downgrading everything they can, and not even trying to make any concession/parity with the other versions, or third party games are going to be really fucked up...
Microsoft, I can understand ur moves from a comercial pov, but for the sake of the games, gosh, fuck you.
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Dibils2k
Member
"That's because the PS5 will require drives that meet it's expected performance levels that current drives simply do not meet "
doesnt sound like a cheap SSD to me...
plz take your fanboy BS out of here
DaGwaphics
Member
GPU is $360 for 24 months.
kyliethicc
Member
Not to mention the PS5 CPU has less work to do on I/O thanks to the PS5 custom I/O unit. So Xbox will probably need a slight 100-200 MHz upclock to perform the same gaming tasks.
Wraith Phantom
Member
Ohh didnt see that. cant beat Sony in chicken. Looks like MS got no more tricks up its sleeve. No terrble showcase show. Saved us a borefest/
Looks like Sony is breaking even with the bloomberg 450 BOM.
For us UK folks looks like we are paying .
£450 PS5
£400 DE.
I have to buy 2 disk version. Im saving 100 quid of rip.
Quite alot of money loss to happen longterm for xbox. Its a win for consumers. Not so much xbox hardware division. These boxes were always going to be afordable so was never worried. I really just want game reveals. Just show me more games,more games
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Dodkrake
Banned
You're not the smartest tool in the shed, right?
The Internal SSD is comprised of 12 individual memory components. These are separate and cheap as heck components that, standalone, are slow. Then the custom controller is what allows for 12 components to work as 1 and substantially increase transfer speeds to the 5.5GB/s raw
What you quoted is for the external SSD bay. Since there's not 12 channels but 4 and less priority levels, it will need extra transfer speeds in order to compensate for both.
So again, you're wrong, and spreading bullshit again.
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zaitsu
Banned
Fast resume feature takes 5-6s per game.
So if we assume 2GB for OS, it's still 1.5 GB/s at best case scenario...
Underwhelming as fuck
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Dodkrake
Banned
Minecraft, from their video, took ~4.
DaGwaphics
Member
I think it's already been stated that games need to be coded to use the new IO platform. Existing games are coded to utilize the traditional (more Windows IO ish) method found in X1. Windows doesn't use NVMEs that efficiently, full stop.
xGreir
Member
Is this man serious? Always the same meaningless wars throwing around the most stupid things they can possibly say, god
Dodkrake
Banned
Yeah, sure. So far, their amazing velocity architecture has shown load times consistently above 10s. That's all. I'm not speculating based on power of the cloud bullshit.
kyliethicc
Member
Looks like it.
10 GB implies split bandwidth... or 5 chips. 224 GB/s though... that implies 14 Gbps GDDR6 over a 128 bit bus.
Idk, weird memory setup.
I thought it would be 6 GB @ 336 GB/s + 4 GB @ 224 GB/s for 10 GB total.
But Xbox says its all 10 GB @ 224 GB/s.
zaitsu
Banned
whole game is 6GB on HDD
BoxFresh123
Member
Wow... So Twitter if the new medium for announcing a new console generation... Anyone else feel a little underwhelmed.
Twitter is the new E3
Dodkrake
Banned
I'm trying to be nice.
TheGreatWhiteShark
Member
some 120fps gears 5 was shown running on series S
also, dirt 5, valhalla, watch dogs legion, outriders, yakuza like a dragon, call of sea, the medium and tetris connected shown running on series s.
also, dirt 5, valhalla, watch dogs legion, outriders, yakuza like a dragon, call of sea, the medium and tetris connected shown running on series s.
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Neo Blaster
Member
If they couldn't make an event, that was the best way to be a party pooper right at the 25th anniversary of PS1.Wow... So Twitter if the new medium for announcing a new console generation... Anyone else feel a little underwhelmed.
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