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[ethomaz]

All of that is again entirely beside the point.

I’m guessing English might not be your native language. I don’t think you really understood what I was saying in the first place, or what point I was initially responding to.
You’ve not taught me anything or even contradicted anything I said, while seemingly trying to either correct me or educate me on points I’ve not made.

This isn’t the first time you’ve done this to something I’ve wrote, either.
I think we’ll leave it at that.

Well I can’t help you if you don’t want to be helped lol

Your post strong rely on how software APIs works to start to understand why it is easier to do direct calls API (PS5) vs DirectStorage API calls (Series X).

Direct X APIs will always have a layer (or layers) of abstraction over it.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

I think the delay talk has stemmed from Series S being delayed until next year. Can't see how MS can release 2 SKUs in their current state.

 

[JTCx]

I am 99% sure they will launch late this year.

Im gonna kindly ask and need you to make that 100%

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

lol, understandable

But hardware would already be getting made/boxed/stored somewhere IIRC with the way console launches work... that's why Sony can be so confident, they know it isn't getting delayed because at worst, they won't make as many as they'd like to be able to get out before a launch date, but they'd probably already have manufacturing started.

And that's all stuff they contracted many months ago.. so the space in factories long ago reserved.. quite a bit different then promising when software will be done.

And that's the thing. Logistically we know they have been making these consoles since the beginning of June so somewhere >3 million made/boxed/palletised. These will be sent on a container ship(s) heading for NA/EU/Japan. No way can they be stored at the factory and nor at the distribution centers around the world (they work basically in a just in time fashion and move through these warehouses quickly). This is just one element here. There are dozens of other elements involved in all this.

Besides I'm on a bet to pick up a PS5 around launch without pre-ordering. I really don't fancy a trek to some factory in China somewhere...

 

[sircaw]

My friend also has something to say.

"Hey, Bo bud, how's it going."

Bo_Hazem "shut your stinking mouth fish face"

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Shit. That really does suggest a staggered launch for the PS5. USA and Canada in November. Everywhere else in December.

Here PS4 was 1st of December as well, so I'll be in pain for 1 month or pay $1000+ for leaked US market PS5's in the gray market.

 

[IntentionalPun]

My friend just told me I'm pretty.

 

[ethomaz]

My friend just told me I'm pretty.

He is 99% right, no?

 

[sircaw]

My friend just told me I'm pretty.

Your friend is a moose and looking for a mate.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

My friend just told me I'm pretty.

PM me please for further investigation.

 

[sircaw]

My friend just told me I'm pretty.

imagine waking up to that face.
no amount of raytracing in the world is going to fix that mugshot

 

[MasterCornholio]

Since we are talking about possible delays anyone remember this article?

Microsoft's Xbox Series X won't be in short supply | Digital Trends

Despite the coronavirus pandemic, Microsoft's Xbox Series X console will be available this holiday season with plenty of supply, says Xbox chief Phil Spencer.

www.digitaltrends.com

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Spencer, however, said that he and his fellow executives still “feel good about” Microsoft’s supply chain.

“The hardware side, it feels like we’ll be able to get enough units,” he said.

But even that comment may not allay every fear players have. There will apparently be enough Xbox Series X units to satisfy hardware demand this holiday season, but Spencer’s comments seem to clearly focus on hardware and not software.

Seems like hardware wasn't going to be an issue but then there's this part.

Indeed, stay-at-home orders have caused widespread delays across the gaming industry, which Spencer acknowledged in his interview with Fils-Aimé. He stopped short of saying whether any Xbox Series X launch titles could be pushed back.

Microsoft did not immediately respond to a Digital Trends request for comment on the status of the launch games and will update this story when we hear back.

If they do delay the system it will probably be because of the state of the software not the hardware.

 

[sircaw]

“The hardware side, it feels like we’ll be able to get enough units,” he said.

eastwood, dealer, @X-Fighter, VFXVeteran , timdog.

They only need to produce half a dozen and they got plenty left over in reserve.

OH YES HE DID SAY THAT.

 

[zaitsu]

Since we are talking about possible delays anyone remember this article?

Microsoft's Xbox Series X won't be in short supply | Digital Trends

Despite the coronavirus pandemic, Microsoft's Xbox Series X console will be available this holiday season with plenty of supply, says Xbox chief Phil Spencer.

www.digitaltrends.com

Seems like hardware wasn't going to be an issue but then there's this part.

"Hardware will be there, API and velocity architecture you'll download as DLC in March 2021. Before then you can use XSX as stand for your Xbox one".

 

[MasterCornholio]

eastwood, dealer, @X-Fighter, VFXVeteran , timdog.

They only need to produce half a dozen and they got plenty left over in reserve.

OH YES HE DID SAY THAT.

When he said that I'm not sure if he's saying the supply will be high or they expect demand to be low.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Here is an interesting little tidbit from the Anandtech review of the SK Hynix P31 SSD about the console SSDs.

(Side note: The Sony PS5 will use a 12 channel controller, which means it should be able to hit its performance targets with a 533MT/s NAND interface speed. The Xbox Series X is likely using a 4-channel controller, so it will probably need to use a faster NAND interface speed despite the SSD as a whole offering less than half the throughput

Not only could this be a shrewd move by Sony it may even mean an overall lower cost for the SSD?

The Best NVMe SSD for Laptops and Notebooks: SK hynix Gold P31 1TB SSD Reviewed

www.anandtech.com

 

[sircaw]

If you get a lot of complaints about me tonight Mod of War i am sorry.

Sorry that your missus has bought you a game pass subscription for Christmas.

Oh no, this is not going to end well.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

It's weird how come all the MS shills have come out in unison yesterday with very similar messages of discontent? Cynical part of me thinks this is marketing as they know MS will show something soon

I think Xbox has freezed their paychecks, they're not paying them anymore.

 

[Nickolaidas]

My main complaint in Resistance Fall of Man was how utter fake, stiff and abrupt the animations were in the game - how weightless everything felt especially the Chimera troopers. And now I look at Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and I am amazed at the quality of the animation which has reached CGI levels. How the enemy models literally 'morph' their anatomy in order to make bite attacks, stagger animations, death/KO animations, laughing, attacking ... it's amazing.

I would really love to see a Resistance game made by the Insomniac of today. I think it would be simply breathtaking.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I think Xbox has freezed their paychecks, they're not paying them anymore.

Nah they are up to something.

 

[Weik]

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Soon....
Soon is a registered trademark of Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc. ©

 

[SNPlayen]

You would think after that preorder email that went out by Sony and that reassurance from them a week ago that a delay would be off the cards right? Right????

 

[MasterCornholio]

Soon....

SOOONNNNYYYYY!!!!!!!

 

[MasterCornholio]

You would think after that preorder email that went out by Sony and that reassurance from them a week ago that a delay would be off the cards right? Right????

 

[jose4gg]

If Sony did all this damage with R&C... I think we don't need more confirmation they want to bleed the competition out...

 

[BadBreathOfTheWild]

Well I can’t help you if you don’t want to be helped lol

Your post strong rely on how software APIs works to start to understand why it is easier to do direct calls API (PS5) vs DirectStorage API calls (Series X).

Direct X APIs will always have a layer (or layers) of abstraction over it.

I don’t need your help. You don’t even understand what I’m talking about. Perhaps not even that PS5 uses its own FileArchive API for storage to abstract what it also does behind the scenes—which is what you seek to want to reply to me about but not at all what I was talking about in the first place.

I’m putting it down to a language barrier and you being convinced I said something I never did. I don’t require any help so please stop pinging me with replies.

 

[Wraith Phantom]

Even after pre-ordering, & everything revealed. Heck even have a PS5 in their home. Dudes would still complain & ask for more info from Playstation.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Another next gen Observer trailer. 4K/60 Ray Traced game

 

[JTCx]

My main complaint in Resistance Fall of Man was how utter fake, stiff and abrupt the animations were in the game - how weightless everything felt especially the Chimera troopers. And now I look at Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and I am amazed at the quality of the animation which has reached CGI levels. How the enemy models literally 'morph' their anatomy in order to make bite attacks, stagger animations, death/KO animations, laughing, attacking ... it's amazing.

I would really love to see a Resistance game made by the Insomniac of today. I think it would be simply breathtaking.

Glad someone else noticed the animations.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Gonna sleep for now, have a great time! And enjoy those raytraced reflections!

 

[sircaw]

Another next gen Observer trailer. 4K/60 Ray Traced game

is that an exclusive or multiplat?

 

[BadBreathOfTheWild]

Even after pre-ordering, & everything revealed. Heck even have a PS5 in their home. Dudes would still complain & ask for more info from Playstation.

It’s the same attitude from months ago where people were convinced the lack of info will doom PS5. I remember someone on reddit /r/PS5 being livid that the console was only 6 months away and Sony hadn’t shown us it yet, and that it was putting him off buying one.
It’s all just toys out of the pram stuff. A CGI reveal of the controller and console is enough to get millions looking and talking. As is the radical idea of showing games running on it.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Gonna sleep for now, have a great time! And enjoy those raytraced reflections!

Don't let the camel bite you while you sleep.

 

[sircaw]

Gonna sleep for now, have a great time! And enjoy those raytraced reflections!

STAY OUT OF THE BARN.

Camel lives MATTER

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

is that an exclusive or multiplat?

Multiplat, is by far the best Bloober Team game, well at least for me

 

[MasterCornholio]

It’s the same attitude from months ago where people were convinced the lack of info will doom PS5. I remember someone on reddit /r/PS5 being livid that the console was only 6 months away and Sony hadn’t shown us it yet, and that it was putting him off buying one.
It’s all just toys out of the pram stuff. A CGI reveal of the controller and console is enough to get millions looking and talking. As is the radical idea of showing games running on it.

It was so cool when they revealed the hardware. Alot of people were worried that they took so long to reveal it compared to Microsoft.

Funny how things changed since that event right?

 

[Dave_at_Home]

I don’t need your help. You don’t even understand what I’m talking about. Perhaps not even that PS5 uses its own FileArchive API for storage to abstract what it also does behind the scenes—which is what you seek to want to reply to me about but not at all what I was talking about in the first place.

I’m putting it down to a language barrier and you being convinced I said something I never did. I don’t require any help so please stop pinging me with replies.

You say this now, but wait until everyone finds out about the secret GPU in the power brick. You won't have VR goggles on your face like you do on your avatar pic, but instead you'll have egg on your face and you'll really be shitting bricks then, pal. BWAHAHAHAAH!





On a more serious note, though. Haven't Cerny and company tried to address the compute unit occupancy problem with their custom cache scrubbers and coherency engine? Do you think they have an idea on how much more "occupancy" they've gained? They must have tested this out against a standard RDNA2 chip. I wonder if it their 36CU chip punches above its weight enough to compete with a 40-something RDNA2 chip. Just spitballing.

Really wondering about this. Someone got some insight for a poor fool such as myself?

 

[Neo Blaster]

I find it more of a miracle that, despite all that went down, the PS3 managed to move more units in total lifetime sales versus 360.

Why? Outside US/UK, PS is a much stronger brand than Xbox even on PS3 years.

 

[HAL-01]

- he agrees with me.

except we absolutely WOULD see a reflection in the example he gave
Here, a quick render of how the example he gave should look like with accurate reflections:

 

[FunkMiller]

Why? Outside US/UK, PS is a much stronger brand than Xbox even on PS3 years.

US folks don’t realise just how popular PlayStation is outside the US. Probably a lot to do with the fact that Microsoft have been pretty bad at appealing to an international audience. Way too America-centric.

 

[MasterCornholio]

except we absolutely WOULD see a reflection in the example he gave
Here, a quick render of how the example he gave should look like with accurate reflections:

Like the old trailer?

Or are the reflections here wrong I can't really tell.

 

[Weik]

If Sony did all this damage with R&C... I think we don't need more confirmation they want to bleed the competition out...

I am agree

But I don't understand why Sony is showing some R&C gameplay while Spider man must come out first. (SSD marketing position ? )
Maybe spider man is even more realistic/beautiful ? Sony have a strong card to play and wait the right moment to do so

Whatever, I will buy them both

 

[HAL-01]

Like the old trailer?

Or are the reflections here wrong I can't really tell.

my argument was that the original reflections were physically accurate because they were raytraced, and were removed temporarily because they glitched when going thru the portal. others are arguing that in the new gameplay they were "fixed" only see the sky reflected, which is horribly wrong from this perspective

 

[MasterCornholio]

I am agree

But I don't understand why Sony is showing some R&C gameplay while Spider man must come out first. (SSD marketing position ? )
Maybe spider man is even more realistic/beautiful ? Sony have a strong card to play and wait the right moment to do so

Whatever, I will buy them both

Maybe they didn't want any negative backlash from those butthurt over not having Spiderman in avengers?

Just kidding.

I'm sure they want to show it close to launch to drive up hype for the systems release.

 

[Neo Blaster]

If HW delays is what your shocked gif was about the other day then I will quite confidently say at this point that won't be happening. I really do think they are already passed the point of no return (both consoles) to delay them. Too many people like devs and retail would be affected if they did it now.

The storm this will cause if this happens though....*unplugs network cable*.

Not to mention Sony just sent those emails about pre-orders.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I am agree

But I don't understand why Sony is showing some R&C gameplay while Spider man must come out first. (SSD marketing position ? )
Maybe spider man is even more realistic/beautiful ? Sony have a strong card to play and wait the right moment to do so

Whatever, I will buy them both

Weren't there rumors they had legal issues with Marvel?

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

I am agree

But I don't understand why Sony is showing some R&C gameplay while Spider man must come out first. (SSD marketing position ? )
Maybe spider man is even more realistic/beautiful ? Sony have a strong card to play and wait the right moment to do so

Whatever, I will buy them both

That's what I was thinking, SM:MM is releasing before R&C but we haven't seen a single gameplay. But with that said, if SM looks as good as it does in the trailers well, they could be saving the gameplay reveal for some flexing at their next event.
I mean, look at this, you can see the small little hairs in his forehead, I took these screenshots directly from the trailer:

Also look at his hair! it looks so good

Full Screenshots:

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Weren't there rumors they had legal issues with Marvel?

You should stop listening to rumors started on discord

 

[Deleted member 775630]

You should stop listening to rumors started on discord

Has it been debunked yet? Although it wouldn't make sense for Insomniac to work on this "extension" of they weren't sure they had the proper rights