Oh damn, I didn't see any of that news. Are Evolution just majorly incompetent then?
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Oh damn, I didn't see any of that news. Are Evolution just majorly incompetent then?
MrS
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Coulomb_Barrier
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There's an international saying that comes to mind also: "the shit has hit the fan".
OmegaSpear
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Serviam
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Define “real gamer”.
A real gamer in my eyes own all consoles and a PC.
Interesting statistics. From where did you get that data? Not being an asshole, just curious as it would be fun to read up on it.
To my friend's opinion, the devkits are more powerful than the retail units. And they come with PS4 pads. So devs are building games and not factoring in the overhead for haptic feedback data, then having to downgrade the games accordingly. No shit.
I thought this comment was funny, because he not only pulls out the claim that the gamepass trailer at Gamescom games were all running on XSX retail console from nowhere; but denies we've seen the multiple instances where gameplay has been marked as running on a console (not a PS devkit or a pc).
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ethomaz
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You need to ask the twiiter guy... he said real gamers buy both consoles I just disagreed and said most real gamers buys one console.
PS4: 110m
XB1: 50m
Do you think real gamers buys both consoles? Because actual data shows the opposite... probably not even 20% of that userbase has both consoles.... and I'm being heavy generous (20% is 32m... almost 3/4 of the XB1 userbase).
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zaitsu
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Yeah its ridiculous.
Nextgen still be 30 fps when developers would want to push graphic. 60 fps and more is only to bait some PCMR into console gaming because for them 30 fps isnt enough.
Rudius
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That would be great. Imagine a new Motorstorm using the full power of PS5!
And please ad some VR to it
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Captain Hero
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After watching the PS5 exclusives games style .. I’m proud to say that Horizon FW performance options ( 1440/60fps ) is coming for the gamers who love that FPS shit ..
Almost every game has options and nextgen is all about that
Almost every game has options and nextgen is all about that
Crazychipmunx
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To my friend's opinion, the devkits are more powerful than the retail units. And they come with PS4 pads. So devs are building games and not factoring in the overhead for haptic feedback data, then having to downgrade the games accordingly. No shit.
I thought this comment was funny, because he not only pulls out the claim that the gamepass trailer at Gamescom games were all running on XSX retail console from nowhere; but denies we've seen the multiple instances where gameplay has been marked as running on a console (not a PS devkit or a pc).
How many tflops does haptic feedback data use?
Nickolaidas
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If TimDogg starts praising the PS5, then I'll be SURE something's up ...
Knitted Knight
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A lot of the hardcore Xbox Youtubers depend on Xbox marketing dept dropping news which feed into their video content and podcasts so they can give something to their audience and keep them coming back. That's what they really crying about... they could care less about the true state of Xbox - everyone knows it's a dumpster fire. They need that constant feed of ammo for the console war - no matter how insignificant......that Youtube money is real. So either they get that or eventually transition like MBG/SaltiestGaming/Crapgamer/Mooch etc... no one wants to be a true casualty.
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Imtjnotu
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1.23tf making it actually a 9TF machine
ethomaz
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Historically DevKits are only stronger on XDK.
To my friend's opinion, the devkits are more powerful than the retail units. And they come with PS4 pads. So devs are building games and not factoring in the overhead for haptic feedback data, then having to downgrade the games accordingly. No shit.
I thought this comment was funny, because he not only pulls out the claim that the gamepass trailer at Gamescom games were all running on XSX retail console from nowhere; but denies we've seen the multiple instances where gameplay has been marked as running on a console (not a PS devkit or a pc).
Sony uses the same config with a bit more RAM.
People started that narrative about DevKits being stronger due Xbox One X devkit being that way... and now they use as excuse.
What you see running on DevKit is exactly what you see on final retail machines... that is the hole goal to profile and debug in a DevKit if not you could use any PC.
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Tripolygon
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Ok you win the internet for the rest of the day.Well, Ratchet goes FULL CRAIG :
Cyborg
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Twitter account of PlayStation_NL has a tweet with the ad about PS5, if you 
the post you subscribe to receive ads about PS5. If you do that (like I did) they send you a “new” ad for 3D audio. Pretty cool.
also in the first tweet (mistake) you could see “ends in September” but its removed now.
the post you subscribe to receive ads about PS5. If you do that (like I did) they send you a “new” ad for 3D audio. Pretty cool.also in the first tweet (mistake) you could see “ends in September” but its removed now.
Mahavastu
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Seems so... I checked, my Unchartered4 from the german PSN does not have arabic.
But good to know that there is a way....
Thanks!
MasterCornholio
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Does anyone think that Sony knew about the situation with Xbox which is why they are pushing the whole "captured on PS5" marketing tactic?
IbelieveInGenerations
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To my friend's opinion, the devkits are more powerful than the retail units. And they come with PS4 pads. So devs are building games and not factoring in the overhead for haptic feedback data, then having to downgrade the games accordingly. No shit.
I thought this comment was funny, because he not only pulls out the claim that the gamepass trailer at Gamescom games were all running on XSX retail console from nowhere; but denies we've seen the multiple instances where gameplay has been marked as running on a console (not a PS devkit or a pc).
These guys are becoming more desperate than never before, but kudos for the creativity to always create a new false nerrative.
Killzone Shadowfall was released at the exact same quality compared to the Psmeeting demo, and It wasnt running on a retail platform. That doesnt mean much
existensmaximum
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Oh yeah, that's what I've been assuming since the first time I saw it.
Dargor
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You do realise that, now, because of your "joke", we'll soon see reports that ds5's haptic feedback systems is a major power hog that will hold ps5's games back, right?
/jk
Rudius
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Without Youtube compression it will be easier to see everything that is going on.
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Metroiddarks
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I understand the general idea of the PC gamer doesn't care the electricity bill but I don't think in that way,
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 and GeForce RTX 3080 specifications leaked - VideoCardz.com
We have received a confirmation on the upcoming GeForce RTX 30 lineup. RTX 30 series: it is all about the memory According to our sources, NVIDIA is set to launch three SKUs in September: RTX 3090 24GB, RTX 3080 10GB and RTX 3070 8GB. We have learned that board partners are also preparing a...videocardz.com
Fucking hell, 350W for the GPU alone. Lol. Even the 3080 is 320W!
with the prices of a decent PSU so high now and of course that GPU will generate more heat inside my PC
cabinet I the flow of air is more important than before all this increment a more the prices for have a high
end PC.
What that hell Nvidia ?this means AMD with RDNA 2 is too close or NVIDIA just want to make a clear difference
between PC and consoles but man this looks too much.
I didn't expect so many titles of Sony does that:
Ratchet and Clank
Demon souls
Spiderman
With all this I expect GT7 have a mode 120 fps aside the VR mode
All of this is the first wave, that is why I love the change of gen.
Here is Why Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is a True Next-gen Game
Let's jump straight to the 4K screenshots I've made from the video! Put in mind that the video itself is heavily compressed, but I made PNG screenshots to preserve as much details as possible: Raytraced reflections: Looking into this screenshot, you can clearly see Ratchet's raytraced...www.neogaf.com
Here is Why Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is a True Next-gen Game
Let's jump straight to the 4K screenshots I've made from the video, put in mind that the video itself is heavily compressed, but I made PNG screenshots to preserve as much details as possible:
Raytraced reflections:
Looking into this screenshot, you can clearly see Ratchet's raytraced reflection on Clank. The red bulb on Clank's head is also reflective on his own body on other frames.
And here is another shot showing the fine reflections on Clank's body/head:
High-quality, raytraced shadows:
You can spot that every hair has its own high-quality shadow:
Even during gameplay, look at the tail fur:
High-quality particles:
Just look at the liquid splash and other particles that can be extremely crowded in some parts of the demo without noticeable penalty in performance.
Extremely fast and dynamic transitions:
Powered by state-of-the-art SSD customization and assisted by extensively detailed I/O.
Dynamic, high-quality damage deformation:
Some objects like the concrete blocks, you can see how different the damage model is and how they dynamically get broken eventually. Look at the side concrete blocks, you can see here even interactive particles of this lightning gun:
Look at the detailed damage and all the debris around:
And here they've been broken:
Infinite draw distance without aliasing:
Whether it's close or far all the way to the outer planets/moons, everything looks insanely sharp as if it's been pulled off directly from a Hollywood CGI movie. Geometry Engines help achieving that without a performance penalty, drawing what's needed to be drawn on screen per frame budget of polygons.
High polygon-count models:
Near-CGI level that made many observers skeptical at first, but it's pretty clear that it will only get better as this latest demo was a refined version of the first one. Due to Geometry Engines and in updated game engines that take advantage of them, no more LOD's that add more wasteful size to game size.
That is why I love to try play each gen with its first wave gorgeus games, some of them were good others bad or just regular games
but I enjoyed as little children:
-Xbox with Halo, Project Gotham Racing
- Xbox 360 with Perfect dark zero, Kameo, Gears
- Xbox one with the Forza, Ryse
-Gamecube with Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, Metroid Prime, Mario Sunshine
-Wii was a little sad in this department but they have Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3
-Wii U with Super Mario 3D World and .... yes this was really sad
-Switch with Zelda Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey
- PS3 with Resistance/Motorstorm
And now:
-PS5 with Ratchet, Spiderman, Demon Souls, fucking Horizon
-XSX well ..... the closest is Medium
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Empire Strikes Back
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This reads to me as dynamic 4K at 60fps and not 1080p60 as some people are trying to imply.Just to add:
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PS5で発売予定の『ラチェット＆クランク:リフトアパート（仮称）』最新映像を受けて、開発者たちへ気になる質問を投げ掛けたインタビューをお届け。www.famitsu.com
MasterCornholio
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It's what I suspected since the event in June. They knew before hand what Microsoft was going to do. So this was a way to counter their marketing.
Bo_Hazem
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If you wanna fabricate one, let me know. There are some great translated games like Uncharted and Tomb Raider. I used our old US address for my US account for example.
Those translations are added size, personally would love it to be released in native language and the rest downloadable, or even download Arabic to US/other regions like free addons.
Thirty7ven
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For some reason in this part reflections are no longer RT. That's strange, considering they improved them in other places.
The effect on the left doesn’t make sense as a reflection because of the angle.
zaitsu
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Yeah reflection on left wont happe in RL, so also not in RT. It was bug or it wasnt RT then.
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kyliethicc
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Perhaps, I think its just their games don't sell. I'm sure they were talented to some degree. Motorstorm was fun, back in the day.
kyliethicc
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They just said lower res. Probably 1440p 60 Hz or 4K 30 Hz, like Demon's Souls is doing.
Nickolaidas
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This Native 4K/30fps or 1440p/60fps is the best thing that could happen in this generation and I hope many many many more devs will follow suit.
dimaveshkin
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During whole slide scene at any angle roads don't appear, but they should for such a sharp angle especially in the end.
existensmaximum
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Yeah, especially since Microsoft have been running that "Footage representative of expected Xbox Series X visual quality" (or whatever) disclaimer during every trailer, it was open goal from the beginning.
Lysandros
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1440p 60 Hz with their excellent temporal injection technique would be nearly as crisp as native 4K.
Empire Strikes Back
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I'm interested in INSTANTANEOUS LOADING for Destiny 2 menus. There's NO excuse for the menu not to be resident in RAM or be streamed at the blink of an eye.
Lunatic_Gamer
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My man Jaffe has spoken. Also R&C with performance mode running at 60fps, best news of the week.
Empire Strikes Back
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Of course they know, just like MS knew about Cerny's presentation and dropped the specs the Monday before it.
MasterCornholio
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This could be why Microsoft was starting to talk so early about their system. Because they knew that once Sony showed games on the PS5 things would change for them.
Empire Strikes Back
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To me the one on the left looks like a refraction, like the road continues below the glass and refrates. In my mind it should reflect the sky and not the roads, as the glass is slopped.
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jimbojim
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Maybe they don't know. Best assumption IMO is that Sony is way better prepared for next-gen than MS. Sony is doing their own thing IMO. Sony also surely can't know how MS 1st party studios are doing. Surely they didn't know that Halo Infinite will be ran on PC and later delayed
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IntentionalPun
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They honestly don't really have nearly as much of a choice do they? I don't think they have anything like the PC XDK thing.
They definitely pay attention to what gamers are saying on the web though, and respond accordingly. I think it has less to do with knowing the insides at MS, and more to do with that if anything.
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Empire Strikes Back
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I'm just trying to say that companies know about each other, deep inside they are trying their best to know each other's next step and that includes having ninjas to shutdown insiders and ninjas to overhear things.
Lunatic_Gamer
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The Medium Gameplay Dev Walkthrough - Experience Horror In Two Worlds At the Same Time
So far the only XSX game that has me excited somewhat.
So far the only XSX game that has me excited somewhat.
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I am always amazed at my own ability to love the Surface devices and hate 99% of the incompetence on display by the Windows and Xbox divisions. Can't the Surface guys just overtake the Xbox division? They cant do any worse of a job than current Xbox division.
Imtjnotu
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I'd love for something like this but the price would not be worth it
Well that's true. Surfaces cost a bomb. For me you feel like you're paying for the innovation of the Surface brand's devices. For me that's what they do, carve out new product categories or implement power usage in a consumption form factor.
In terms of Xbox, I'm sure even an expensive XB would be more well received if you could see an earnest effort to push the device's feature set, or the games into new/better areas.
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