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Confirmed by Bloomberg: Microsoft brings back Halo veteran Joseph Staten to get Infinite back on track

Data Ghost

Member
Man this game REALLY wasn't ready was it? Jesus. I hope I am not too old to enjoy gaming by the time it finally lands and I hope Gamepass (and the Xbox brand itself) still exist.
 

GHG

Gold Member
You must be trolling. On that short video you have enemies tripping after being shoot in leg and loosing parts of armor from player fire.

Man with standards like these maybe they should have just kept things as they were and released the game as it is this year.
 

Data Ghost

Member
Yeah, I think 2022 is looking more and more likely.

Also, let's all just agree on this:

The budget is at, or will be at, 500 million dollars when all is said and done.
Agreed it sounds like it needs some major work and probably quite a bit of re-working too. Ahhh the Xbox SX/Halo dream team was almost a reality!

I'd love to be party to some of the conversations and meetings behind closed doors, its a huge embarrassment for Xbox.
 
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Ar¢tos

Member
Can this game still be profitable (short term, not long term) ?
Very long development, many studios involved, huge budget, and its on gamepass day one.
I wonder how many units + gamepass subscriptions it has to sell to offset the costs.
 
Man with standards like these maybe they should have just kept things as they were and released the game as it is this year.
IMO they should. get the game out on launch day, then continue to improve the series x version.
but sony fans did their best leveraging social media power and secluding a single frame from the video part I posted above
 
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GHG

Gold Member
IMO they should. but sony fans did their best leveraging social media power and secluding a single frame from the video part I posted above

Yeh I know, and with gamepass we would have been blessed with the opportunity to get 2 craigs for the price of one!

They were just jealous of the value.
 

Shmunter

Member
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Great get. game is in good hands now
what. Is this legit?
 

Cato

Banned
Can this game still be profitable (short term, not long term) ?
Very long development, many studios involved, huge budget, and its on gamepass day one.
I wonder how many units + gamepass subscriptions it has to sell to offset the costs.

I think until very recently the game was supposed to be the flagpole major launch title that would showcase the new generation and kickstart console sales. And in that plan actual profitability of the game itself was likely not top priority.

But that is not the case anymore.
I imagine that a lot of plans and priorities are in flux right now to adjust to the new realities.
Since the launch is fucked I imagine there will be a lot stronger demand to control costs and ensure that they can recoup the investment through sales. The days of milk and honey are definitely over for the team.

Can they be profitable short / medium term? I doubt it.
Long term? Maybe with some luck.
 
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Yeh I know, and with gamepass we would have been blessed with the opportunity to get 2 craigs for the price of one!

They were just jealous of the value.
this is the part of the demo that the single frame was taken and created the craig meme


you can pause on 11th second and see it for yourself

I'd call sony fans "try hards" for sure
 
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Shubh_C63

Member
"Microsoft’s also moving Pierre Hintze, another senior leader within 343, to focus on Halo Infinite and serve as a project lead for its free-to-play experience. "

Wait. Was this common knowledge. I always assumed it will have F2P like Destiny contents but didn't knew they have outright announced it.
 
"Microsoft’s also moving Pierre Hintze, another senior leader within 343, to focus on Halo Infinite and serve as a project lead for its free-to-play experience. "

Wait. Was this common knowledge. I always assumed it will have F2P like Destiny contents but didn't knew they have outright announced it.
It was announced officially a month ago



then trolling intensified...

so now you know why
 
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IMO they should. get the game out on launch day, then continue to improve the series x version.
but sony fans did their best leveraging social media power and secluding a single frame from the video part I posted above
Xbox can't afford to release Halo Infinite as is. it would drown out any positive buzz they want to generate, right during launch period. it would damage their reputation just when fans are deciding which console to buy.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Lol you guys keep repeating this Bonnie Ross chicks name like she's the sole reason why Halo is a sh*t game. It'll be horrible no matter who's at the helm. Male nerds are so weird.
Right, because why would you blame the person in charge of all of this mess.
 
Xbox can't afford to release Halo Infinite as is. it would drown out any positive buzz they want to generate, right during launch period. it would damage their reputation just when fans are deciding which console to buy.
no it wouldn't.

halo 5 already offers the best multiplayer halo, and this one will be even better.
and it being F2P would generate exactly the opposite of what you are saying.
let alone that 120 fps for high end pcs and series x would do wonders for buzz.

I've written it before, they should have shown a 120fps multiplayer firefight between those pro teams they have close to development and testing. that was their mistake.
 
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Shubh_C63

Member
IMO they should. get the game out on launch day, then continue to improve the series x version.
but sony fans did their best leveraging social media power and secluding a single frame from the video part I posted above
I don't think this is Driveclub or something they can afford to squander. Only having no flaws is not enough anymore if you know what I am talking about.
 

Pallas

Member
Got to agree, get rid of Bonnie Ross, but I feel like the higher ups will give the team a free pass because of the covid pandemic even though the issue runs a lot deeper.

Some people are in it just to upset “the other lot”, the fans of what they are not fan of, their “opponents”.
They do not care about what they stand for being great or not, they care about the other side doing worse and being downplayed or kicked down... you see it in politics, in gaming, anything that is becoming more and more tribal. Not being in the “other” tribe and trying to piss “them” off is good enough.

Not everything has to be about console war bullshit. Regardless of who you like, I don’t think anyone would disagree that Halo Infinite needed help and looked very underwhelming visually.
 

Pallas

Member
IMO they should. get the game out on launch day, then continue to improve the series x version.
but sony fans did their best leveraging social media power and secluding a single frame from the video part I posted above

I disagree, they need to make it look better. I don’t want to see “Craig” in the release version of Halo Infinite.
 
Do you REALLY think anyone is afraid?
I just want to know, are you just trying to act tough or are you too far gone.
you don't need to be an accredited psychologist to understand that what's going on with halo (and xbox) trolling is the best example of fear manifestation and confirmation bias en masse,
but if you cant understand it go ask one, he 'll tell you
 

MDSLKTR

Member
I can't think of another dumpster fire of a mega project like that in media... Maybe the justice league movie?
 
I disagree, they need to make it look better. I don’t want to see “Craig” in the release version of Halo Infinite.
one more time, here is the part of the demo from where the console warriors secluded the single frame and created the meme
watch carefully and comment again about "I don't want to see craig"

 

INC

Member
you don't need to be an accredited psychologist to understand that what's going on with halo (and xbox) trolling is the best example of fear manifestation and confirmation bias en masse,
but if you cant understand it go ask one, he 'll tell you

Denial is also a river in africa
 

Dibils2k

Member
why wasnt this done 12 months ago... did it really need online hate to see the faults?? makes you wonder if MS ever checks up on their games or how low their bar is for 1st party lol
 
Denial is also a river in africa
you are the denial expert, you should know better

 

Pallas

Member
one more time, here is the part of the demo from where the console warriors secluded the single frame and created the meme
watch carefully and comment again about "I don't want to see craig"



My post was hinting at the overall issues with the graphics, this should not be released as a launch console game.
 
My post was hinting at the overall issues with the graphics, this should not be released as a launch console game.
its a cross gen game at launch. this was never to be changed, no matter all the stupid rumors.
xbox one running this at 60fps would be great enough
they would continuously upgrade the series x/pc like they already had announced
 

VAVA Mk2

Member
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Joseph Stanten responsible for the story of Halo 1 - Halo 3?
And ODST and Reach and the Halo Bible/in charge of lore. He should have been given Frankie's job as Franchise Development Director. The lore of Halo is predominantly his.
 

Pallas

Member
its a cross gen game at launch. this was never to be changed, no matter all the stupid rumors.
xbox one running this at 60fps would be great enough
they would continuously upgrade the series x/pc like they already had announced

Which from the looks of it was too big of a project for 343. I was cautiously optimistic about them able to do both without causing the Series X version to look so outdated but really should have made two separate versions, and maybe outsource the One version to a familiar dev studio.

Cross gen or not, you CANT release a game as a console launch, looking like this, it’s public perception and opinion. It looks really bad and makes the series X seem very underwhelming. Not everyone is going to care if it’s a cross gen title. They are gonna see that game being the face of Series X instead.

I can’t even imagine what the One version would look like, Xbox One was a really weak piece of software.
 
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