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Dusk Golem reiterates that the Xbox will be more powerful than the PS5 (Admitted to starting console wars, demodded)

the_master

Member
Aphalling how a guy gets bullied for sharing some comments he heared from other devs (That is literally a rumor).

Just take the rumor, speculate, and carry on.

Maye he heared a dev complain about how expensive it is to make that ps5 game run 4k, maybe he heared anotherone complain about getting something on that other game to work, maybe he heared a dev exactly describe how both consoles compare, or on the contrary, he misinterpreted or misheared something.

The witch hunt is embarassing. Just consider his rumor, be happy that he shared it with us, feel free to speculate on it, and let the guy be.
 
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Shodan09

Unconfirmed Member
Edit: Wrong quote/thread!
 
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pawel86ck

Banned
Xbox fans are much more louder than PS fans. Especially in FUD spreading. That's a fact, a big one. Just look what are they doing on twitter. It's hilarious to see.
Regarding Github, it was right about PS5 only regarding CU and half-right about bandwidth speed. Regarding GPU speed ( 2 GHz ) architecture ( RDNA 1 ), TFLOPS 9.2 it was wrong.
Github leak was legit but it was early PS5 prototype based on RDNA1. Retail PS5 is RDNA2 based, so everyone should be happy.
 

Wizz-Art

Member
Yeah it's more powerful but so what?, you can give boxes of colors to two different artists. Give the more talented artist a box with 24 colors and give the less talented artist a box with 48 colors, I bet that the artist with the most talent is still going to turn in a more impressive work (even though he was working with less colors). Same thing, we have already seen that with the PS4 Pro and the XBO X. Microsoft's first party is not in the same league as Sony's, not even close... I mean look at Halo Infinite... damn... look at 'em 12 TFLOPS at work...

I talked about all those third party games you know, those 90% of games that release on either console and they certainly looked and played better on the Xbox One X despite having the same amount of tools, oh correction, it doesn't work like that. The Xbox is vastly superior and by default the same artists had more tools to them available.

What The Coalition does with the Gears of War games I take over what Naughty Dog does with Uncharted, no contest in my eyes. But we can go back and forth with it and you will say otherwise but why should I care when Gears give me way more gameplay that I want!?

Look at all those Forza games wich are being made in a fraction of the time and being better then anything PD does. Hell PD even hired the lead soundman away from Turn 10 because fans complained the cars still sound like sawing machines.

To me XGS are way better then what Sony's got to offer, but I don't have to use hyperbolic comments to emphase that. If I'm not a big fan of the way Sony tries to make their games, then they really don't have much else. XGS are much more diverse and now I will use some hyperbole too; it's not even in the same universe!

And then you come with Halo Infinite as kind of proof that those 12 TF were in any shape of form put to hard work. A crossgen game that is supposed to work on the Xbox One, a machine from 2013. Yeah, comparing apples with oranges does that sometimes.
 
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Fart Knight

Al Pachinko, Konami President
There is an actual discord used to spread fud? This can't be real.....

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Gamernyc78

Banned
I talked about all those third party games you know, those 90% of games that release on either console and they certainly looked and played better on the Xbox One X despite having the same amount of tools, oh correction, it doesn't work like that. The Xbox is vastly superior andby default the same artists had more tools to them available.

What The Coalition does with the Gears of War games I take over what Naughty Dogs does with Uncharted, no contest in my eyes. But we can go back and forth with it and you will say otherwise but why should I care when Gears give me way more gameplay that I want!?

Look at al those Forza games wich are being made in a fraction of the time and being better then anything PD does. Hell PD even hired the lead soundman away from Turn 10 because fans complained the cars still sound like sawing machines.

To me XGS are way better then what Sony's got to offer, but I don't have to use hyperbolic comments to emphase that. If I'm not a big fan of the way Sony tries to make their games, then they really don't have much else. XGS are much more diverse and now I will use some hyperbole too; it's not even in the same universe!

And then you come with Halo Infinite as kind of proof that those 12 TF were in any shape of form put to hard work. A crossgen game that is supposed to work on the Xbox One, a machine from 2013. Yeah, comparing apples with oranges does that sometimes.

😂😂😂Stopped reading at "what coalition does with Gears I take over Uncharted" Since Uncharted 2 Naughty dog has decimated Gears in every way in terms of graphics, you can't be serious? Delusional at best, it's not even close. Gears games are so static while Uncharted is more dynamic, doing more and better things graphically to the point of winning awards for it. No one but you would ever make tht comment even professionals say Uncharted games push graphical benchmarks. BRO gears 5 came out after uncharted 4, way after and still graphically can't compete. Even in mp while I'm climbing, jumping off bldgs swinging on rooes in uncharted I can barely jump over a knee high ledge in Gears 😂😂 get off tht lsd, no one believes you.

As for Forza and Gt comparison Gt graphically still does things better so idk what your point was. Dev time? Polyphony brings out games slower than any dev on any machine, including Sony's lol thts just them.

As for next box only thing it has a win in is gpu and ps5 is stronger in everything else from its ssd i/o, geometry engine, etc

Xbox hasn't had a graphical benchmark game since when Gears first released and rarely is talked about in that fashion except for Forza now. Meanwhile at Sony headquarters...

TLOU 1/2
Ghost of T
GT
God of Wars
Uncharted
Dreams
Horizons
Spiderman

Etc you get the point 😁💯
 
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Wizz-Art

Member
😂😂😂Stopped reading at "what coalition does with Gears I take over Uncharted" Since Uncharted 2 Naughty dog has decimated Gears in every way in terms of graphics, you can't be serious? Delusional at best, it's not even close. Gears games are so static while Uncharted is more dynamic, doing more and better things graphically to the point of winning wards for it. No one but you would ever make tht comment even professionals say Uncharted games push graphical benchmarks. BRO gears 5 came out after uncharted 4, way after and still graphically can't compete. Even in mp while I'm climbing, jumping off bldgs swinging on rooes in uncharted I can barely jump over a knee high ledge in Gears 😂😂 get off tht lsd, no one believes you.

As for next box only thing it has a win in is gpu and ps5 is stronger in everything else from its ssd i/o, geometry engine, etc


No matter how much smiley's you use, doesn't make your opinion more true then mine, everybody has an opinion. Deal with it!
 

Wizz-Art

Member
Professionals have an opinion too and it sure isn't yours or the consensus . One thing is to have an opinion another is to distort reality due to fanboyism. Deal with it!
I don't care, I have my own opinion and tastes. No need for so called professionals to give me any influence to what I think is right. To me State of Decay 2 is far and beyond the Game of the Generation. If I had to believe all those so called professionals I would miss out on one of the best games I ever played. Deal with that!
 
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No matter how much smiley's you use, doesn't make your opinion more true then mine, everybody has an opinion. Deal with it!

Opinion yes but clearly you have vision problems because Gears doesn't look anywhere near as good as anything Naughty Dog has done this gen, hell Sony bend made a better looking open world game with Days Gone. I don't expect Gears to compete visually either btw they went for 60fps and that came with visual sacrifices. You can't tell me these two character models are even remotely close in quality, one is a secondary character in an open world game and one is a secondary character in Gears.
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CrysisFreak

Banned
I don't care, I have my own opinion and tastes. No need for so called professionals to give me any influence to what I think is right. To me State of Decay 2 is far and beyond the Game of the Generation. If I had to believe all those so called professionals I would miss out on one of the best games I ever played. Deal with that!
jfc buy you do you
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
Opinion yes but clearly you have vision problems because Gears doesn't look anywhere near as good as anything Naughty Dog has done this gen, hell Sony bend made a better looking open world game with Days Gone. I don't expect Gears to compete visually either btw they went for 60fps and that came with visual sacrifices. You can't tell me these two character models are even remotely close in quality, one is a secondary character in an open world game and one is a secondary character in Gears.
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Bro add uncharted gifs of drake and its over, it's leagues better no oneeeee is on naughty dogs level in terms of animations let's not get into the beautiful worlds thy create that no one else does besides maybe Rockstar at times and Guerilla.

I put him on ignore, once I see there is craziness in a person's talk it isn't worth the time. One thing is opinion another is lame fanboy thinking.

This is literally how the game looks when u play 😂😂

 
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Wizz-Art

Member
Opinion yes but clearly you have vision problems because Gears doesn't look anywhere near as good as anything Naughty Dog has done this gen, hell Sony bend made a better looking open world game with Days Gone. I don't expect Gears to compete visually either btw they went for 60fps and that came with visual sacrifices. You can't tell me these two character models are even remotely close in quality, one is a secondary character in an open world game and one is a secondary character in Gears.
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Uh are you taking a piss...the Gears one mos def looks superior in any way!?
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
WTF is this?



I mean I heard about the discord before but saying that Dusk Golem is there?

WTF?


I dont see any usefullness in something like this

Cant they just hang up on any gaming websites like average people do

Have to admit this is funny

And that DuskGolem guy is there?

Now we got everything we need to know
 
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pawel86ck

Banned
😂😂😂Stopped reading at "what coalition does with Gears I take over Uncharted" Since Uncharted 2 Naughty dog has decimated Gears in every way in terms of graphics, you can't be serious? Delusional at best, it's not even close. Gears games are so static while Uncharted is more dynamic, doing more and better things graphically to the point of winning wards for it. No one but you would ever make tht comment even professionals say Uncharted games push graphical benchmarks. BRO gears 5 came out after uncharted 4, way after and still graphically can't compete. Even in mp while I'm climbing, jumping off bldgs swinging on rooes in uncharted I can barely jump over a knee high ledge in Gears 😂😂 get off tht lsd, no one believes you.

As for next box only thing it has a win in is gpu and ps5 is stronger in everything else from its ssd i/o, geometry engine, etc
To me GOW3 or GOW Judgment graphics was equally as impressive as uncharted 2-3 on PS3. IMO only TLOU1 looked a little bit better than these xbox360 exclusives. There were also great looking Crysis 2/3 games on x360 that can easily match uncharted trilogy games.

Gears 5 vs TLOU2? Here I dont have any doubts and TLOU2 graphics is a clear winner. Some detalis like physics in Gears 5 is even downgraded compared to gears of war games on X360.
 
This Dusk Fuddem (sorry) couldn't help himself. Probably got all raged up inside from that thread about MS' problems after Halo delay, and let his true colors show.

I wanna see receipts if he's part of Xbox psy ops discord.
 

pawel86ck

Banned
Bro add uncharted gifs of drake and its over, it's leagues better no oneeeee is on naughty dogs level in terms of animations let's not get into the beautiful worlds thy create that no one else does besides maybe Rockstar at times and Guerilla.

I put him on ignore, once I see there is craziness in a person's talk it isn't worth the time. One thing is opinion another is lame fanboy thinking.

This is literally how the game looks when u play 😂😂


Character models and lighting looks great during cutscens but since you are talking about gameplay:
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jimbojim

Banned
Github leak was legit but it was early PS5 prototype based on RDNA1

Yeah, legit for XSX, right, which was already a RDNA 2. Regarding PS5, it was wrong.

Can you point me to what you are saying? I looked at his tweets just a little while ago, when cornholio mentioned me.
I think the entire conversation between the two is in the pic below,
and last tweet is Dust once again doubling down and vouching for his information.

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Have I missed something?

Yes, he backpedalled. That was day before when Matt asked him. That tweet in the end came day after. He also knows the people for Silent Hill and he stand behind his words. Yet, it was all fake regarding Silent Hill. So much about his credibility. He lost all of it. Bigger issue is he didn't get a permabann on ERA for fake Silent Hill news.
 
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Fart Knight

Al Pachinko, Konami President
Im glad these phonies get exposed. These 'insiders' are put way too high on a pedestal. Especially on on reeeeeeeeeeeeee.
 

pawel86ck

Banned
Yeah, legit for XSX, right. Regarding PS5, it was wrong..
If you think XSX leak was legit then at least be congruent and believe PS5 leak as well. It's so hard to believe sony really build 2GHz prototype? Even Cerny has said they tried running PS5 GPU with 2GHz clock before.

BTW. thread title change is just pathetic. Dusk Golem only admited he said what he know intentionally, but he never said he was lying.
 

jimbojim

Banned
If you think XSX leak was legit then at least be congruent and believe PS5 leak as well. It's so hard to believe sony really build 2GHz prototype? Even Cerny has said they tried running PS5 GPU with 2GHz clock before.

BTW. thread title change is just pathetic. Dusk Golem only admited he said what he know intentionally, but he never said he was lying.

Sorry, need to correct my self, it was right ( i've mentioned right numerous times in threads ) - regarding XSX Github was right about everything. Regarding PS5 it wasn't. If XSX was then RDNA 2 why it wasn't for PS5 then in github. Btw. owner of Github leaks was hmggg, an Xbox insider
 

mejin

Member
Aphalling how a guy gets bullied for sharing some comments he heared from other devs (That is literally a rumor).

Just take the rumor, speculate, and carry on.

Maye he heared a dev complain about how expensive it is to make that ps5 game run 4k, maybe he heared anotherone complain about getting something on that other game to work, maybe he heared a dev exactly describe how both consoles compare, or on the contrary, he misinterpreted or misheared something.

The witch hunt is embarassing. Just consider his rumor, be happy that he shared it with us, feel free to speculate on it, and let the guy be.

There is no need to speculate anymore, come on. You reap what you sow.
 

pawel86ck

Banned
Sorry, need to correct my self, it was right ( i've mentioned right numerous times in threads ) - regarding XSX Github was right about everything. Regarding PS5 it wasn't. If XSX was then RDNA 2 why it wasn't for PS5 then in github. Btw. owner of Github leaks was hmggg, an Xbox insider
Not everything was right. XSX leak mentioned 56CUs active at 1.7GHz, while retail XSX will only use 52CUs active (but with higher clock).

 
Aphalling how a guy gets bullied for sharing some comments he heared from other devs (That is literally a rumor).

Just take the rumor, speculate, and carry on.

Maye he heared a dev complain about how expensive it is to make that ps5 game run 4k, maybe he heared anotherone complain about getting something on that other game to work, maybe he heared a dev exactly describe how both consoles compare, or on the contrary, he misinterpreted or misheared something.

The witch hunt is embarassing. Just consider his rumor, be happy that he shared it with us, feel free to speculate on it, and let the guy be.

He doesn't get a free pass he's on purposely said some rumours whether true or not about a game not running well yet even tho it ain't out yet until 2021 and probably unoptimized it's a big fat nothing and all in the name of throwing shade on ps because Xbox is currently viewed in a negative light so how can anyone feel sorry for him when it was done in malicious way from the start these people know exactly what they are doing and the cry like a baby when found out .
 

jimbojim

Banned

Zathalus

Member
I'm still puzzled as to why some keep hoping the gap between the PS5 and Xbox Series X is bigger then it is. The only difference in games will be a 15-20% resolution gap at most. If the Xbox version of a game has a native 3840x2160 then the PS5 version would be 3552x1998 at worst. With modern post-processing, upscale, and TAA that is not going to be noticeable to the average person, unless 800% magnification is used.

At the same time, the multiplatform game will benefit from the far faster PS5 I/O, in whatever format that takes.

This is not a Xbox One X / PS4 Pro power gap, no matter how some wish it will be.
 
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