FranXico
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And charge 160$ for those.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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I can see them securing Monster Hunter: World 2 tbh
kyliethicc
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Yeah Elder Scrolls 6 would be crazy, but I doubt that game comes out before GTA 6 (both are so far away.) I feel like it’s either CoD, GTA 5, or FF16.
I don’t think this game is what the rumors are, but I still think Sony is having Remedy make them a PS5 exclusive. Like they paid From Soft to make Bloodborne. Remedy has several teams and there’s plenty of evidence to this idea. Like a lot I could list. Even the other day a Remedy dev said on Twitter how E3 was important for them “to convince Sony” and then never said what that meant. I assume it’ll be on PC too, but not Xbox. I dont think they’ll stop making other multiplats though.
DaGwaphics
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On a small scale, sure. If it became a widespread case of keep-away, the process would start without any action on MS's part at all. Similar to music when artist X signs a deal to premier something on platform x for so many weeks, in isolation that is harmless. However, if that same platform decided to play keep-away with every major release, the anti-competitive nature of that will be handled swiftly. The more dominate the player playing this game, the less they can get away with.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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They're joint agreements between both parties. It happens in every industry and on large scales, and they all basically get away with it. Plus people aren't entitled to the products. Devs/pubs can put their games anywhere they choose.
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DaGwaphics
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Possibly, it would be interesting to see.
You could basically make that argument for any anti-trust case. Intel could have easily said, OEMs are free to make whatever arrangements with suppliers they want. Microsoft themselves could have argued that they were free to preinstall whatever browsers they wanted, OEMs were free to add any additional software they wanted as were users. Not the way it works, however.
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PaintTinJr
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How would you make that argument, exactly - in a world of millions of game developers that aren't excluded ?
The courts would have to place additional weight on the production level of the games with timed-exclusion for anyone to successfully make that argument (IMO), and with massive F2P games like Fornite, or games like Minecraft being way below that production level, but arguably just as important to a platform holder saying it is available on their platform, I don't see how anyone could highlight the merits of the timed exclusive games to convince anyone that it was going to "cripple a competitor".
DaGwaphics
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^ The practice would need to be very extreme, to be sure. A AAA or two wouldn't cause a stir.
IntentionalPun
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It's not an anti-trust issue. Sony isn't telling devs they can't do business if they also do business with Microsoft, nor is Microsoft doing that when they do the same thing.
It's anti-competitive behavior but it's likely far from illegal ore anything Sony or MS could get sued over.
Hawking Radiation
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Jesus.
These consoles are launching in like 3 months and there is fuck all information on pricing, launch games, nothing.
Its really frustrating.
Killer Sakoman
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I just noticed something, EA and Activision are denouncing MTX and Gaas. They decided to face thier enemies and fight with honor like a true samurai. 
Microsoft, on the other hand, are doubling down on Gaas. Too late to the finished party.
Microsoft, on the other hand, are doubling down on Gaas. Too late to the finished party.
Neo Blaster
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Even if they fund development?
Ass of Can Whooping
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Not even comparable in the slightest.
Sony would need a monopolistic hold on the industry. Sony isn't stopping competition by getting more games on their platform.
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PaintTinJr
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But surely your premise is that the courts would side with MS because you believe they would deem that every platform holder (middle man) should have equal access to 3rd party games on their platform.
I personally think that games are a creative endeavour and that the courts would be more interested in protecting the ability of content to succeed. Games are a risky business and if a 3rd party believes alignment to a platform - that pushes that creativity more than any other platform holder - is better optics for their game to be successful, I think the courts wouldn't want to deny a 3rd party that choice.- because if they did, then publishers could rightfully expect the courts/gov to underwrite losses for their games that failed under a block on timed-exclusive deals.
MasterCornholio
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Honestly it's not like Sony is putting a gun to their heads or anything. They could equally have chosen Microsoft but they have reasons not to.
You certainly don't see supermarket brands of cola suing coke because they are outselling them by a vast amount.
Gamerguy84
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As long as its not Madden, watch it be Madden.
I only buy one copy of Madden a gen just to see how it looks and plays.
Killer Sakoman
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If I were them, I would shy from asking people to pay $500 for these consoles. Neither console can convince people to buy them. Only core gamers who knows what to expect based on developers track record are excited about the consoles.
Honestly, my wife questioned me about buying ps5 after seeing the Bugsnux and the bathless today.
. The marketting guy at Sony need to find another job. How could you show ps5 games that look inferior to crash bandicoot 4 on PS4
. Casual gamers are confused.
Technically PlayStation 5 will be in the next generation alone without a peer like the Switch is now & I don't know how to feel about this.
Switch is pretty much alone in this generation & it's a runaway success but lately it seem like 3rd parties only want to port games over to it instead of making Switch games. PS5 will most likely meet the same fate unless it light a fire inside of devs & make them not even want to turn back to...
Ass of Can Whooping
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Technically PlayStation 5 will be in the next generation alone without a peer like the Switch is now & I don't know how to feel about this.
Switch is pretty much alone in this generation & it's a runaway success but lately it seem like 3rd parties only want to port games over to it instead of making Switch games. PS5 will most likely meet the same fate unless it light a fire inside of devs & make them not even want to turn back to...www.neogaf.com
You don't think this SoP reinforces your claim do you?
Oh the stupidity
I clearly does because if given the choice publishers would make the games that play on the bigger install base that include PS4 & Xbox One & just have enhancements for PS5 & Xbox Series X but Sony is probably helping to fund some games so they will be Next Gen games that take advantage of the PS5 specs & they will get ported later.
Edit: my post isn't about State of Play it was about Sony getting 3rd party exclusives
around the 22:25 mark
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
If I were them, I would shy from asking people to pay $500 for these consoles. Neither console can convince people to buy them. Only core gamers who knows what to expect based on developers track record are excited about the consoles.
Honestly, my wife questioned me about buying ps5 after seeing the Bugsnux and the bathless today.
Just to be sure, you do know that design aesthetic is that of the game developer. In this case, they previously made Abzu. It’s a cross gen title which is in line with what that developer created before in terms of style. Not every game dev will be AAA game makers or with massive budgets. Sony just simply uses SoP to show it.. which.. is normally used to show games like that.
MasterCornholio
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I was thinking of something like Battlefield as a timed exclusive or a BioWare Game as one.
Ass of Can Whooping
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And you took that from an indie showcase of ps4 scraps
We've been through these phases in orevious gens. We'll see cross gen games for the first year or two, and next gen games will follow.
Killer Sakoman
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It is not time to show it when first you didn't show a deep look of a game representative of next gen prior to it and you don't show it at the same show were games on your older console are better looking. Also sony did not market it as cross gen, they presented it as next gen.
This confuses those gamers who are not Era/ Gaf/N4g. Those people don't understand SSD, 10 segaflops and likely never seen UE5 demo. They will think PS5 is something like the Switch.
And you took that from an indie showcase of ps4 scraps
We've been through these phases in orevious gens. We'll see cross gen games for the first year or two, and next gen games will follow.
No my post isn't about SoP it was about this
Imran Khan: "Sony has locked timed exclusivity for some huge and widely known multiplatform games"
HeisenbergFX4
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JonnyMP3
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COD again?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
No one gives a shit about indies. No one. People like to pretend they do to appear enlightened and elite but they don't.If I were them, I would shy from asking people to pay $500 for these consoles. Neither console can convince people to buy them. Only core gamers who knows what to expect based on developers track record are excited about the consoles.
Honestly, my wife questioned me about buying ps5 after seeing the Bugsnux and the bathless today.
No one watches these shows to get a glimpse of fucking bugsnax.
Mr Moose
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Grand Theft Auto V PS5 next-gen version 6 month exclusive.
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kyliethicc
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Gotta be either Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto. Those are the huge multi platform games. (Other than Minecraft and sports games.)
What else could it be? Edit, let’s think.. big multiplats...
Minecraft? Nope Xbox owns it.
Sports games? No point.
Call of Duty? Huge game, possible. Sony and Activision are close.
GTA 5 + Online? Very huge, possible. Sony and Rockstar are close.
GTA 6 ? Seems like it would cost too much, and too far away. But huge. A dream.
Final Fantasy 16? Definitely possible. Square and Sony seem close.
Resident Evil 8 / RE4 remake? Maybe. Capcom and Sony do deals.
Elden Ring? Possible. Sony and From Software have a relationship.
Fortnite? No point. Huge but it’s on everything iOS etc. Why buy that?
Rocket League? Destiny? Apex? Same. Unlikely.
Other ongoing GaaS games? I doubt it.
Battlefield? Perhaps, but Sony and EA don’t seem that close currently.
Elder Scrolls 6 / Starfield? Maybe, Sony already did lock up 2 Bethesda games...
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JonnyMP3
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Why do I keep talking about the same thing as someone else at the same time???
kyliethicc
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Maybe Dorito Pope’s Gamescom show thing this month. Maybe Sony.
Can't be Call of Duty so maybe Resident Evil
Edit: RockStar wouldn't dare make GTA 6 PS5 time exclusive would they?
PS2 is kinda responsible for GTA becoming a mainstream success but this would flip the industry upside down right now.
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kyliethicc
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Sony opened the PS5 event with GTA. Sony already has deals with Activision for COD. Both seem possible (and are very big.)
cragarmi
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Maybe it's (redacted)
Ass of Can Whooping
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They're not paying developers to make next gen games. They're paying developers to make the next gen games they were already going to make exclusive to their platform
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Moridianae
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Think big, huh?
Resident Evil has gone exclusive for a time before, so that's a likely candidate.
Some predictions: Resident Evil 8, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy XVI, Final Fantasy VII Part 2.
I don't really know any other major multiplats that could be a knockout. The aforementioned are fairly big, but none of them I'd classify as unexpected. And one of them is still strictly rumor.
The only big time I could think going console exclusive for a time would be Blizzard timing out Diablo IV or Overwatch 2, which seems unlikely.
Tomb Raider? Something Tom Clancy like Splinter Cell?
Resident Evil has gone exclusive for a time before, so that's a likely candidate.
Some predictions: Resident Evil 8, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy XVI, Final Fantasy VII Part 2.
I don't really know any other major multiplats that could be a knockout. The aforementioned are fairly big, but none of them I'd classify as unexpected. And one of them is still strictly rumor.
The only big time I could think going console exclusive for a time would be Blizzard timing out Diablo IV or Overwatch 2, which seems unlikely.
Tomb Raider? Something Tom Clancy like Splinter Cell?
MasterCornholio
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From the sounds of the rumor it's going to be something that will really piss people off.
I think GTAVI as a timed exclusive could do the trick. Also could be COD but I don't think it would piss off that many people.
Whatever it is it's going to be really unexpected.
On a side note I wouldn't be Surprised if Epic also releases a timed exclusive on the PS5 due to the relationship that they have with Sony.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Bioshock would be a likely candidate.
Thirty7ven
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It’s gotta be Silent Hill/Metal Gear/Final Fantasy.
Anything from Bethesda/Rockstar/EA/Ubisoft would be extremely expensive.
Simply put, the industry has grown really small lately. There’s not a whole lot to choose from.
Anything from Bethesda/Rockstar/EA/Ubisoft would be extremely expensive.
Simply put, the industry has grown really small lately. There’s not a whole lot to choose from.
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MasterCornholio
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I'm going out on a limb and say it's probably someone that really needs PS5s I/O for their game.
Maybe the devs / publisher want to be able to make a next gen game & didn't need much convincing
Empire Strikes Back
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I don't think Guerrilla sat on a tight budget for this project as Hulst is the head of WWS himself... Let that sink in. But, again, this is a PS4 game that was meant to run only on PS4 and PS4 Pro. I seriously doubt that back in development in 2014~2016 they were thinking "Hm, yeah, we are definitely porting this Sony 1st party game to PC because we want to please Alex from DF", and this has NOTHING to do with them having Decima running on PC. They develop games on PC, but again, their target is the devkit and not a fucking workstation.
They already talked about the animations being locked at 30fps, etc. This is the kind of things you can do when you have a fixed hardware, you are allowed to have things fixed and even make use of some custom hardware inside the console. FFS. It's a PS4 game that was never supposed to run on PC, give them a break. They won't rebuild an entire game for PCMR, they are a Sony studio.
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Empire Strikes Back
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MasterCornholio
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Could be they thought they needed the I/O for their game. And a developer like that would be easy for Sony to convince to make to their game exclusive.
I'm not saying the game wouldn't be possible on other systems but Sony does need someone to say that kind of thing.
Neo Blaster
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Casual gamers were never the first to buy next gen consoles anyway, like you said it's the core gamers who will plunge at the holidays. But I have to agree, I'm a core gamer and I'm not enticed enough so far, need more big gameplays.If I were them, I would shy from asking people to pay $500 for these consoles. Neither console can convince people to buy them. Only core gamers who knows what to expect based on developers track record are excited about the consoles.
Honestly, my wife questioned me about buying ps5 after seeing the Bugsnux and the bathless today.
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DaGwaphics
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There is a certain point where you could make a credible claim that the anti-competitive behavior was monopolistic. If they money-hatted every game by EA, Ubi, Activision, SE, etc., they would quickly reach a point where only they could afford to make the offers. Basically eliminating the competition in the space, wouldn't be a smart move for devs in the slightest though (I have a feeling that Sony's cut would grow larger with no direct competition).
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