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[Saint Boot]

Here come more excuses to the book.
Well when one owns a company or sells a product how should success be graded measured the?

In a perfect world? I would hope that Sony cares more about the opinions of actual gamers posting their thoughts about a given thing, rather than the amount of money they can make at the end of the day. But this is a business I guess and investers don't give a damn about none of that.

At the very least, props to you for not lumping me in with the rest of the "hater cunt/virgins/basement dwellers".

As I stated earlier, fanboys are just as bad as haters.

 

[REE Machine]

Even if every single copy was traded back in they don't lose any money. the only way you could theoretically say they lose money is from people buying the used copy instead of a new copy

I know im joking at outrage culture

 

[REE Machine]

In a perfect world? I would hope that Sony cares more about the opinions of actual gamers posting their thoughts about a given thing, rather than the amount of money they can make at the end of the day. But this is a business I guess and investers don't give a damn about none of that.

At the very least, props to you for not lumping me in with the rest of the "hater cunt/virgins/basement dwellers".

As I stated earlier, fanboys are just as bad as haters.

Other than a vast few ive seen more praise for the gameplay and story than negatives. Especially negatives are coming from youtubers who used to pick on movies for being "woke" now moved to tlou because well aint no movies to be had. Are there pacing issues? Sure, but the overall tone and story so far from what ive played and alot of people have finished started with tlou part 1 and is continuing from the spectrum of part 2.

 

[MasterCornholio]

And I have seen all haters of this game lumped into the same category of "cunts, virgins, and *Insert many buzzwords here*. You may take the time to differenciate the two, but many others in this topic are not. Fanboys are just as bad as haters are. Where is the balance?

Well it's pretty obvious what fanboys and haters are when they make comments like this.

Fallout 4 sold 14 million. Who gives a toss.

Your macho ma'am tranny savage game is still shit.

It's pretty easy to tell which people are the extreme from the comments that they make.

 

[Saint Boot]

Well it's pretty obvious what fanboys and haters are when they make comments like this.



It's pretty easy to tell which people are the extreme from the comments that they make.

Didn't Fallout 4 get made for multiple consoles and pc? Of course it's going to make that much money.
TLOU 2 prob would have made that much money also if it was multi system.
and you are right, it's easy to find out who they are, like there is a poster earlier just stating that all haters are cunts.
Not going to bother to screencap it though, it's pointless at this point.

 

[Arkam]

4 million the first week is impressive. Especially for a mature title with a (somewhat) divisive plot. Will be interesting to see it’s lifetime total.

 

[brap]

Meanwhile The Last Jedi makes over a billion worldwide. OMG what a great movie!!! Sales mean everything!!!

 

[Endless Fluff]

Keep shifting those goalposts

Stop lumping everyone together you moron.

I've been saying that this game will divide critics and the general public/streamers ever since the review embargo dropped and while not here, I've been saying that this might become a turning point for ND for a long time. It wouldn't be the first time in the entertainment industry that something which is generally hated by the public (justified or not) affects future projects in some way.

But yeah, keep on defending your toys.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Didn't Fallout 4 get made for multiple consoles and pc? Of course it's going to make that much money.
TLOU 2 prob would have made that much money also if it was multi system.
and you are right, it's easy to find out who they are, like there is a poster earlier just stating that all haters are cunts.
Not going to bother to screencap it though, it's pointless at this point.

Well the person I was quoting was making a hateful comment incase you didn't notice.

As as for " haters being cunts" you do know what haters are right in this context?

I don't consider a hater a person that dislikes the game. I consider them people that constantly trash a game because they are just being fanboys about it.

 

[ebullientprism]

Go woke go broke lmao.

Time to move the goalposts boys. It has to keep selling 4 million every week for the next 2 years otherwise "SJW game sinks ND and Sony".

 

[MasterCornholio]

Keep shifting those goalposts

Stop lumping everyone together you moron.

I've been saying that this game will divide critics and the general public/streamers ever since the review embargo dropped and while not here, I've been saying that this might become a turning point for ND for a long time. It wouldn't be the first time in the entertainment industry that something which is generally hated by the public (justified or not) affects future projects in some way.

But yeah, keep on defending your toys.

Could you two stop fighting please?

We all know what happens when things go too far here.

 

[pixelation]

Salt levels bout to rise to the stratosphere!!!

 

[carlosrox]

4 million copies ain't that good when you consider the game's budget. Especially since I doubt this game is going to sustain sales past the first week.

lul

There is no way this game isn't already considered a massive success in at LEAST two ways: critical and financial. The third would be fan reception and legacy, and sure there are some people with LEGITIMATE criticisms, but many will be from edgy dorks and people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about but just love to spout their IGNANT shit online. The consensus will be that TLOU2 is a solid game. GOTG GOAT BEST GAME EVAR talk is often hyperbolic shit, but it's at least worthy of being in the conversation.

For me it'll likely be one of my favorite games of this gen.

 

[Lionel Richie]

I'm having trouble comprehending people trying to minimize the fact that this is the biggest exclusive launch on the PS4

Because it's the last grasp to the stupid narrative that you "get woke, go broke". It never was true. You never go broke when you get woke by itself. You go broke when you betray your fanbase, when you deliver a substandard product, when you get lazy with social commentary and lose sight of what it is you're actually doing. I haven't played TLOU2, but I can assume that none of those things are true.

So the critics say the game is good? Review bomb it. The community says it's good? Amp up the shitposting. Sales are good? No no, it means nothing. Stuck forever in denial still pretending that there's any truth to the world fuckboy supreme The Quartering and that whole cottage industry paints in those clickbait toxic retarded bullshit videos.

 

[Sub_Level]

Meanwhile The Last Jedi makes over a billion worldwide. OMG what a great movie!!! Sales mean everything!!!

Well the sales & also that most people who actually played it found enjoyment in the product. You'll find in many impressions here that even people who heavily dislike the story thought it was an enjoyable enough game.

And of course you got upcoming stuff like the multiplayer, Grounded mode, the PS5 patch/remaster. I dunno man I don't think this will go down as a Last Jedi scenario. Maybe more like MGS2 where many fans hate it, many fans love it, & the brand/studio keeps going strong regardless.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Malio]

Get woke, go broke! Oh....

 

[Enjay]

I'm happy it sold more than FF7 Remake

 

[and 3 others]

I'm happy it sold more than FF7 Remake

The further removed from playing that, the less I like it.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

But I've seen and heard many gamers say it's their game of the year too. So......how big of a divide is it really?

Dunno. I'm just saying, why isn't that reflected in the MC user score? It's not a perfect barometer to see where critics and the gaming community sit on it, but it's probably the best aggregate we have at the moment.

I've no doubt there's many gamers who do consider it GOTY and are praising it, I've seen them around. And if they like the game that's cool, they're having fun with it. But the giant backlash among a lot of gamers is kind of unprecedented for a game of this stature, feels like the blowback against Mass Effect Andromeda in a lot of ways.

This HAS to be satire

Satire died in May. So, this is a legitimate observation. Maybe I'm wrong. Doubt it, but anything's possible.

 

[Danjin44]

I'm happy it sold more than FF7 Remake

Really? I'm loving that game and I'm one of those people who was very, very skeptical about the game.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I'm just saying, why isn't that reflected in the MC user score?

Do you really want to use the user score to determine if people like it or not? I wouldn't use the user score for any game BTW when it comes to Metacritic. With Steam you can at least tell if they played the game or not.

 

[Yoboman]

Stop lumping everyone together you moron.

I've been saying that this game will divide critics and the general public/streamers ever since the review embargo dropped and while not here, I've been saying that this might become a turning point for ND for a long time. It wouldn't be the first time in the entertainment industry that something which is generally hated by the public (justified or not) affects future projects in some way.

But yeah, keep on defending your toys.

"stop lumping everyone together"
"Which is generally hated by the public"

 

[Vroadstar]

Think someone needs to do that blackboard where all the excuses are, they're like mushrooms now hard to keep up

 

[REE Machine]

Think someone needs to do that blackboard where all the excuses are, they're like mushrooms now hard to keep

Make a bingo game out of it

 

[REE Machine]

 

[Mod of War]

People are going to get their digs in, especially after all the theatrics for this game over the past several days, weeks, months, and even years.

With that said, this is a reminder to not sling personal attacks and insults towards one another.

Thank you.

 

[Yoboman]

Why is Gears 5 being listed with those successful games?

 

[REE Machine]

Why is Gears 5 being listed with those successful games?

Have to give MS a break every now and then lol

 

[Valentino]

Because it's the last grasp to the stupid narrative that you "get woke, go broke". It never was true. You never go broke when you get woke by itself. You go broke when you betray your fanbase, when you deliver a substandard product, when you get lazy with social commentary and lose sight of what it is you're actually doing. I haven't played TLOU2, but I can assume that none of those things are true.

So the critics say the game is good? Review bomb it. The community says it's good? Amp up the shitposting. Sales are good? No no, it means nothing. Stuck forever in denial still pretending that there's any truth to the world fuckboy supreme The Quartering and that whole cottage industry paints in those clickbait toxic retarded bullshit videos.

FACTS!

 

[Investor9872]

I'm not surprised that TLOU 2 sold that many, and broke records. We're in the final stages of the PS4 lifespan, and with over 115 million units installed, one would expect this. Imagine how many more it would have sold without the controversy!

 

[Woggleman]

I'm not surprised that TLOU 2 sold that many, and broke records. We're in the final stages of the PS4 lifespan, and with over 115 million units installed, one would expect this. Imagine how many more it would have sold without the controversy!

It probably sold more because of it.

 

[Thicc Enigma]

I'm not surprised that TLOU 2 sold that many, and broke records. We're in the final stages of the PS4 lifespan, and with over 115 million units installed, one would expect this. Imagine how many more it would have sold without the controversy!

Just like Joker, it probably sold more because of said controversy.

 

[carlosrox]

Just like Joker, it probably sold more because of said controversy.

Possibly. There's an X-factor involved here for sure.

 

[carlosrox]

On another note, a bunch of these same people probably push the highly flawed narrative that "men hate women in their media".

So where's all the women hating sexist gamers? Those fucks are like 0.1% and don't speak for everybody, so painting everyone with the same brush is always stupid.

"Men hate women".

Mega successful movie/game featuring women releases to acclaim/money.

"........"

 

[hunthunt]

It sold well and it's critically acclaimed.

What more would Sony want?

The recognition from manchild basement virgins?

 

[MasterCornholio]

The recognition from manchild basement virgins?

Eewwww no.

 

[THEAP99]

How do we think longs are going to fair?

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Gay people in a game = Woke.
Cyberpunk is going to grow money with wokeness.

Sales doesnt mean something is good. Reviews are fake. Well damn what is Sony going to do? Make more.

 

[Neolombax]

Dont understand why this is supposed to be a burn for people who did not like the game. I hated the direction of the story, hence wont be playing or buying it. I dont go preaching to people to not buy this game, it just isnt for me. All i know is that I am no longer interested in The Last of Us franchise, and will be approaching all Naughty Dog games with caution.

 

[Mattyp]

I'm just here to watch you pussies whine and try to justify the game sucking by making up fake scenarios about how its not actually good they sold 4 million copies in 3 days lul

Can you find a list of quotes where everyone said it wouldn't sell well? I hate it, everyone in the spoiler thread hated it but give us a list of members saying this still wouldn't sell well. Because I don't remember that narrative.

Number of sales never equaled a games greatness or percentage of suck.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

LoU 2 sells the most during launch week than any previous Sony first party game or any other big MS or Nintendo first party game.

Right at the end of the generation with 110 million consoles sold.

What a revelation!

 

[Hobbygaming]

This is great. I'm glad people hating it are in minority. Funny I was one of the haters but in the end, I had to try it myself, and I am so glad that I did. This game makes me love and respect Joel more than ever. Except for a few very minor issues I had with the game, this was a phenomenal experience. Congrats to ND for this huge success.

I used to hate on the 1st game all the time until I played it

I hope people play Part 2 for themselves like you did

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Oh look, straight from the horses mouth. 4 million. No way is this the best selling game of 2020 like the other guy said in that other thread.

Could you two stop fighting please?

We all know what happens when things go too far here.

Stop backseat modding.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Stop backseat modding.

I didn't bring the mod in.



Got a problem with trying to solve the issue ourselves?

 

[carlosrox]

The Last Of Us Part IV sells 2 million copies.

 

[Johnny Silver]

These sales numbers mean very little.

I'm more interested in the following factors:

1. Does this sales rate reflect only the pre-orders?
2. Will sales drop sharpply after the first weeks? Thus reflecting point number 1.
3. Are there significant numbers of refunds after people have played the game?
4. What is the trophy rate for game completion? This is an important metric, it shows how many people tolerated the way the game was made until the end.
5. Will sales continue in significant numbers after the first weeks? Will this game have "long-legs"?

(edited)

 

[magnumpy]

but why does this have to happen right now with so much other stuff going on

 

[Lionel Richie]

Oh look, straight from the horses mouth. 4 million. No way is this the best selling game of 2020 like the other guy said in that other thread.

There's 0 chance TLOU2 will outsell Animal Crossing. If you're a betting man and you're taking TLOU2 here, you'd be broke in a couple of weeks.

 

[TheDuskwalker]

Oh look, straight from the horses mouth. 4 million. No way is this the best selling game of 2020 like the other guy said in that other thread.

Animal Crossing sold 13 million in 6 weeks, TLOU2 really has to keep momentum going to match that.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I didn't bring the mod in.



Got a problem with trying to solve the issue ourselves?