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[Paracelsus]

I have a theory why Abby is this bulky.
It's a popular trend to replace existing protagonists with women (Cassie Drake), however they refuse to acknowledge obvious physical differences, so these women just do everything men do, and more.
Originally, Nadine did not exist, it was supposed to be Sam, Sam was going to be 50% "bad", plot twist, he's good now.
When they made the change they added Nadine, but instead of being reasonable, they changed the gender but not the power. So here you have a woman beating the shit out of two grown men like it's nothing.

Abby is pretty much not-Joel, gameplay would look jarring as a normal-sized woman.
So, do you change gameplay? Do you make her a man? No, you want all female protagonists coming into TLOU3 and Uncharted 5, so

That's 200 pounds of steroided up woman, baby.

She is going to be the main star and on the front cover of TLOU3. Feel free to call me out if I'm wrong.

 

[ZZZZ]

I read that the one posted this got banned. I wonder why...

You can add to that, why did Abby the best hunter in the organizations hits a moving target on a reaction shot almost dead center in the face, then almost misses one at 1/3 of the distance that's not moving.
It takes 5 seconds from the moment Tommy jumps her until he gets shot, what is Ellie doing? Jesse's gun is literally right in front of her, she does nothing for those 5 seconds, then when the camera cuts to her, she is shown missing an easy shot then Abby proceeds to miss a bunch of easy shots on a close target running in a straight line cause plot armor.

Did Ellie really get the gun on the ground and instead of firing an easy shot at Abby's back, she starts running to the door and when Abby looks at her after firing at tommy only then Ellie fire and misses? What??

Ellie gets impaled by a tree branch on the side and just start walking after she stitches herself? That's not exactly a flesh wound, as long as that thing is, it probably caused internal bleeding and a small hemorrhage can quickly become life-threatening.

 

[lukilladog]

I didn´t know people made so many memes already

 

[Northeastmonk]

I finished it. I have an odd feeling about the game. One minute I was expecting to feel relief, but it all ended with uncertainty hanging in the air.

Spoiler: My spoiler take on it all

What a roller coaster. One minute I’m dead set on Ellie getting revenge. I hate Abby at this point and I’m glad she kills people close to her. Then it all changes. It makes you feel Abby from the ground up. Even if you don’t get an entire game with these characters, its pretty easy to feel emotions for them. I don’t get why reviews think that’s such a bad thing? Do you really want to play 15 hours with Owen or Levi? They’re good characters, but I got enough to understand their impact on Abby’s story. I actually felt more empathy for Abby during her Seattle days. Then it really kicked in when she met Levi. Levi couldn’t do more than he did if you ask me. He’s under Abby’s care, which pushes Abby’s stake in the whole thing even further. I’m at that melting point where I think I wouldn’t mind if Ellie got killed because Abby had her backstory explained and then her fight for survival. Then you finally get to be Ellie again in Santa Barbra. Tommy pushing Ellie to go made me go back in time to the theater and Joel. During Abby’s story, Joel doesn’t feel important. Its not until you’re hanging out on the farm, with the baby, and the cattle; that it all starts to go back to Ellie’s favor. Back on the beach you feel like none of them deserves to die. Abby has been through hell and so has Ellie. Then it all just kicks your teeth in when they show Ellie talking to Joel. Ellie was working on forgiving him. Which is basically forcing you to feel sympathy for Ellie, yet again. If they traveled over to where Abby went then maybe I’d feel like rooting for Abby/Levi again. There’s some strong emotions here, but it wasn’t finished. I feel like there’s some unfinished business.

Gameplay was excellent when we got to the more horror aspects with Abby. I thought Ellie’s was good too, but it wasn’t as scary. I felt like The Descent mission showcased that and the boss battle with that large mutated infected added a lot to the game. Abby felt stronger, but Ellie really picked up the pace in Santa Barbra.

I feel like I had a lot of mixed emotions with this game. I don’t understand what the feeling is. It had a ton of buildup to Abby getting to the theater. The whole fight on the beach felt like it got them absolutely nowhere. Ellie is just alone. Abby is somewhere else in the world. Dina is gone with her kid. The house sits and its not even invaded by the infected. One thing I would want is some feeling of closure, but that’s probably going to come with part III.

 

[Dr. Claus]

You do know that's a contradicting statement. Crossfit != (does not equal) 8-9hrs a day. WLF has a farm of livestock literally breeding in the middle of the stadium. Its not hard to imagine they're able to produce protein in large quantities. You don't need supplements to build muscle mass.

I've never seen a game so polarizing as this one. Is it because it's pushing against your social norms? I honestly don't care if they have some secret SJW agenda. From start to finish, the gender/looks of a character did not distract on what the story was actually about (cycle of revenge/forgiveness). For the ~24 hours it took for me to finish the game. There was not a single moment where I thought "ohh god, buff male/lady, SJW!!!!!".

Work on your reading comprehension. I stated: "Her build is literally based off of a crossfitter who eats, supplements and works out nearly 8-12 hours a day." To spell it out further: The person who she is based on is a professional crossfit trainer and a professional athlete who works out on average 8-12 hours a day with a very strict diet full of high grade supplements to maintain her physique. Something that is not possible in the world they crafted in TLOU. Livestock alone would not get you that physique. Doing her job as a WLF soldier would not give her that physique. We have tens of thousands of women in military that don't come close to the physique that she has.

I would like consistency, something that they were able to do in TLOU1, but failed to do here. This isn't Uncharted. It is based around trying to create a world as realistic as they possibly can. It has nothing to do with "pushing against my social norms", so please fuck off with that. Her design was deliberately changed from its initial showing (as we can see with the trailer above) because of Druckman's political agenda - something he has been clear about ever since the first game (before you ask "why wasn't the agenda seen in the first game then?!?! - he didn't have full control and had plenty of pushback against his ideas. That wasn't the case with TLOU2). You are correct as there is no "secret" agenda. It is out in the open and as blatant as it could be. Going to repeat myself: Druckmann has, been *very* clear on pushing a social justice agenda with the game.

 

[Thaedolus]

Literally zero people work out an average 8-12 hours a day.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Literally zero people work out an average 8-12 hours a day.

How Much Do Olympic Athletes Train In A Day? It’s Every Bit As Intense As You Think

Even as a viewer, I can't help but think of the Olympics as a serious commitment. For more than two weeks every two years, I'm hooked to prime time, mentally logging when I can watch which events and noting which of the competitions I might need to…

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Also suggest you look up Colleen Fotsch's statements on her workout schedule. You would be surprised.

 

[Paracelsus]

I didn´t know people made so many memes already

Spoiler

https://dump.video/i/zancCr.mp4

 

[Yoboman]

I read that the one posted this got banned. I wonder why...

1. They did and they recovered. Something happening off screen is not a plot hole. How does Joel manage to survive being pierced through the stomach all the way into winter without medication? How does Joel not get shot when his daughter did? How does Ellie escape a town of cannibals hunting for them? How does Ellie not die after drowning and resuscitation not being performed?

2. Dumb question, she went for any part of the body she could reach

3. All of the former Fireflies went

4. How does Ellie, a biological teenage girl, not die from being hit by 300 lb men and supernatural clickers in the first game?

5. That is not the tendency of a sociopath, and she had just saved them. At least for the moment

6. Not all women get sick in pregnancy, or at the same levels or at the same time in their pregnancy. Some women have no symptoms, some require hospitalisation

7. Probably the same way that Abby did. Who knows? Doesn't really seem relevant to the plot.

8. Why do people make bad decisions under stress?

9. Is it really though?

 

[ZZZZ]

 

[Yoboman]

How Much Do Olympic Athletes Train In A Day? It’s Every Bit As Intense As You Think

Even as a viewer, I can't help but think of the Olympics as a serious commitment. For more than two weeks every two years, I'm hooked to prime time, mentally logging when I can watch which events and noting which of the competitions I might need to…

www.bustle.com

Also suggest you look up Colleen Fotsch's statements on her workout schedule. You would be surprised.

Skills training is a lot different to muscle building though.

 

[TissueBox]

This is the only part of the game that nearly made me cry:

 

[sendit]

I read that the one posted this got banned. I wonder why...

Because its a game with a story to tell?

You can basically apply this ideological thinking to any story telling.

"why didn't X villian kill Y hero when he had a chance"
"why did X character go in to the haunted house by his/her self"

Work on your reading comprehension. I stated: "Her build is literally based off of a crossfitter who eats, supplements and works out nearly 8-12 hours a day." To spell it out further: The person who she is based on is a professional crossfit trainer and a professional athlete who works out on average 8-12 hours a day with a very strict diet full of high grade supplements to maintain her physique. Something that is not possible in the world they crafted in TLOU. Livestock alone would not get you that physique. Doing her job as a WLF soldier would not give her that physique. We have tens of thousands of women in military that don't come close to the physique that she has.

I would like consistency, something that they were able to do in TLOU1, but failed to do here. This isn't Uncharted. It is based around trying to create a world as realistic as they possibly can. It has nothing to do with "pushing against my social norms", so please fuck off with that. Her design was deliberately changed from its initial showing (as we can see with the trailer above) because of Druckman's political agenda - something he has been clear about ever since the first game (before you ask "why wasn't the agenda seen in the first game then?!?! - he didn't have full control and had plenty of pushback against his ideas. That wasn't the case with TLOU2). You are correct as there is no "secret" agenda. It is out in the open and as blatant as it could be. Going to repeat myself: Druckmann has, been *very* clear on pushing a social justice agenda with the game.

Maybe learn how to structure your sentences a bit better. You can literally relate CrossFit to working out in your sentence as it is implied. Additionally most people in the military don’t have the luxury of working out. Many people in the military are paper pushers. People in the military also have families to take care of. Just because people are in the military, it doesn’t mean they are at peak physical condition.

Livestock equals protein. You don’t need additional supplements (they can help but are not needed) to gain muscle mass. A healthy diet based on individual needs/goals is fine.

Reference

Seriously, after all the misconceptions about the game. Abby's character is the only thing left to pick at:

 

[saintjules]

 

[saintjules]

I was reading this online. True?

Chapter Select functions a bit strangely in TLOU 2. If you choose to replay a chapter earlier in the game, you won’t be able to revisit any of the ones after it – unless you load a different save. This makes hunting for any outstanding collectibles a bit annoying, so New Game + might be your best bet for a completionist run.

 

[PanzerAzel]

She is the antagonist. You dont have to like her

She’s also the protagonist and Ellie the antagonist.

 

[Dargor]

Skills training is a lot different to muscle building though.

 

[Yoboman]

She’s also the protagonist and Ellie the antagonist.

Making her playable doesn't make her a protagonist. She is quite specifically the antagonist, providing the framework of goals and obstacles that Ellie (as protagonist) looks to overcome (killing Abbie). She even does the classic antagonist trope of defeating the protagonist multiple times before losing in the end.

95% of her playable moments (exception being where she found then killed Joel or directly confronts Ellie) only serve to establish her own characterisation, and don't drive the central story forward which is a requirement of the protagonist role.

 

[Yoboman]

How can I move a goal I never set?

 

[Dargor]

How can I move a goal I never set?

Easily it seems.

 

[Yoboman]

Easily it seems.

I never claimed no athletes work out 12 hours a day but go off

 

[Dargor]

I never claimed no athletes work out 12 hours a day but go off

The person that you quoted was answering someone that did. So what was your point when saying some type of training is different than another type of training?

 

[Umbral]

You mean a world were danger lurks at every corner? Her job as a soldier? The WLF faction wasn't exactly starved for food. They turned Century Link Stadium in to a farm. Its not unbelievable her daily rountine consisted of patrols/working out/eating.

You don’t know how biology works.

 

[rofif]

It's the apocalypse. Even if You do not work out, You still work out because everything is physical work. I actually liked hot swole she is. And it's just fun how she throws punches
I understand it's unlikely anyone would get so big in apocalypse but it's a cool, different character trait... and serves a good purpose when You see her at the end of the game

 

[Umbral]

My point is that her body isn't unattainable, but it's definitely on the "good genes"/"strong commitment" side.

It's doable without taking extreme supplements, perhaps not for everyone, but she is the only character in the game that's like this.

No, it’s not. The only way for her to get that big is steroids/testosterone.

 

[rofif]

No, it’s not. The only way for her to get that big is steroids/testosterone.

And You find pills all the time

 

[Umbral]

And You find pills all the time

If they were labeled as dianabol as you picked them up I’d be like “checks out”. Better yet, make them syringes for realism.

Thing is, your body doesn’t want to hold onto muscle it doesn’t need because it’s heavy and expensive. People in world of TLOU should mostly look like marathon runner/rock climbers.

 

[rofif]

If they were labeled as dianabol as you picked them up I’d be like “checks out”. Better yet, make them syringes for realism.

Thing is, your body doesn’t want to hold onto muscle it doesn’t need because it’s heavy and expensive. People in world of TLOU should mostly look like marathon runner/rock climbers.

Yes, that is true and hard to disagree with.
Try not to think about this so realistically. The explanation is that she trained for revenge and they do not go into any more detail except showing a gym etc. And her being so huge is a pretty interesting distinction from other characters and a trait imo.
I understand it is not realistic (except if she did used steroids and she could have the knowledge since her father was a doctor) but I found myself justifying this or not thinking about it.
But yes - even if she had that body type, during an apocalypse she should just look like runner/swimmer for sure.

 

[Umbral]

Yes, that is true and hard to disagree with.
Try not to think about this so realistically. The explanation is that she trained for revenge and they do not go into any more detail except showing a gym etc. And her being so huge is a pretty interesting distinction from other characters and a trait imo.
I understand it is not realistic (except if she did used steroids and she could have the knowledge since her father was a doctor) but I found myself justifying this or not thinking about it.
But yes - even if she had that body type, during an apocalypse she should just look like runner/swimmer for sure.

If they just shaved like 15% off of her mass she wouldn’t have stood out to me at all. I actually preferred playing as her, she was basically Joel from TLOU1.

 

[Jon Neu]

1. They did and they recovered. Something happening off screen is not a plot hole. How does Joel manage to survive being pierced through the stomach all the way into winter without medication? How does Joel not get shot when his daughter did? How does Ellie escape a town of cannibals hunting for them? How does Ellie not die after drowning and resuscitation not being performed?

2. Dumb question, she went for any part of the body she could reach

3. All of the former Fireflies went

4. How does Ellie, a biological teenage girl, not die from being hit by 300 lb men and supernatural clickers in the first game?

5. That is not the tendency of a sociopath, and she had just saved them. At least for the moment

6. Not all women get sick in pregnancy, or at the same levels or at the same time in their pregnancy. Some women have no symptoms, some require hospitalisation

7. Probably the same way that Abby did. Who knows? Doesn't really seem relevant to the plot.

8. Why do people make bad decisions under stress?

9. Is it really though?

Imagine believing all this “answers” really answer anything in a cohesive, believable or meaningful way.

I have never seen in my life a game so damage controlled.

 

[tfur]

I have a theory why Abby is this bulky.
It's a popular trend to replace existing protagonists with women (Cassie Drake), however they refuse to acknowledge obvious physical differences, so these women just do everything men do, and more.
Originally, Nadine did not exist, it was supposed to be Sam, Sam was going to be 50% "bad", plot twist, he's good now.
When they made the change they added Nadine, but instead of being reasonable, they changed the gender but not the power. So here you have a woman beating the shit out of two grown men like it's nothing.

Abby is pretty much not-Joel, gameplay would look jarring as a normal-sized woman.
So, do you change gameplay? Do you make her a man? No, you want all female protagonists coming into TLOU3 and Uncharted 5, so

That's 200 pounds of steroided up woman, baby.

She is going to be the main star and on the front cover of TLOU3. Feel free to call me out if I'm wrong.

Druckman sacrificed Joel to Anita and her crowd to kill the white supremacy patriarchy. He killed or maimed the males in tribute to give birth to the nu-woman based games.

He burned away any value of male<->female relationships, as well as father<->daughter relationships. Even father<->baby relationships did not even matter.

Even the notion of a reproductive woman was attacked, and the final relationship with Ellie, Dina and baby was also severed. Let Mel go out and pound her baby and uterus on patrol, then just kill her and whatever she was going to bear. Nobody cared about it anyhow. Even Dina was sidelined with her reproductive weakness, because apparently morning sickness and a first trimester brakes women now.

We are left with a girl/girl boat ride away, as the victory of the character. A super woman and trans-girl, and a punished Ellie left to go forth, give birth and multiply.... oh wait...

We were left with nothing of value.



The irony is:

He made the female characters mentally weak and neither Abby or Ellie had conviction in the end. They killed a hundred people on the way, but could not get the job done in the end.

He made the reproductive women objects of weakness and devalued the innate attributes of women, in celebration of a male feminist concept of what a nu-woman should be. Dina was weak and what Mel carried did not matter.

Abby's body was objectified as a proto-man-woman. Her strength and power come from her male like attributes..

Abby was too dumb to see that her father was to blame for wanting kill a kid.

Ellie was made dumb, to not realize that she was saved as a child, by Joel.

 

[Jon Neu]

Seriously, after all the misconceptions about the game. Abby's character is the only thing left to pick at:

Funny thing is most of those things are actually kind of true.

Yes, you have religious homophobic nuts that serve the purpose of victimize poor LGTB people and demonize religious people (except judaism, that is cool as the game tells you too).

Anita Sarkeesian, as per Cuckmann himself, it’s a huge influence on his works. So while she wouldn’t be physically present to work in the game, she is present in how Cuckmann designs the game because he himself has proudly said so. And it really shows.

And it’s undeniable that Abby is designed to look like a man. Not only her unrealistic physique for a woman in the post apocalypse, but also her personality, her face, her looks. She is pandering to the same type of people.

And Cuckmann himself doesn’t need to be scanned or moccaped to insert himself in the game with Manny or with the Dr. Uckmann card. He is in the game, with his 100 brains.

And no, you don’t need to pay for reviews. The gaming press is already blackmailed into giving good notes or else they wouldn’t receive the next game copies to review, they would be blacklisted from events, etc...

So yeah, gaming journalism as it’s core it’s very not objective. It can’t be.

 

[ZZZZ]

Imagine believing all this “answers” really answer anything in a cohesive, believable or meaningful way.

I have never seen in my life a game so damage controlled.

In short.

 

[Max_Po]

so... what exactly is in one of those

Spoiler

bigot sandwiches

 

[Yoboman]

Imagine believing all this “answers” really answer anything in a cohesive, believable or meaningful way.

I have never seen in my life a game so damage controlled.

Imagine thinking things like "how does a girl punched by a man not die" and "why is pregnant person not sick" are actual legitimate plot concerns

 

[Max_Po]

Funny thing is most of those things are actually kind of true.

Yes, you have religious homophobic nuts that serve the purpose of victimize poor LGTB people and demonize religious people (except judaism, that is cool as the game tells you too).

Anita Sarkeesian, as per Cuckmann himself, it’s a huge influence on his works. So while she wouldn’t be physically present to work in the game, she is present in how Cuckmann designs the game because he himself has proudly said so. And it really shows.

And it’s undeniable that Abby is designed to look like a man. Not only her unrealistic physique for a woman in the post apocalypse, but also her personality, her face, her looks. She is pandering to the same type of people.

And Cuckmann himself doesn’t need to be scanned or moccaped to insert himself in the game with Manny or with the Dr. Uckmann card. He is in the game, with his 100 brains.

And no, you don’t need to pay for reviews. The gaming press is already blackmailed into giving good notes or else they wouldn’t receive the next game copies to review, they would be blacklisted from events, etc...

So yeah, gaming journalism as it’s core it’s very not objective. It can’t be.

move on man, this much hate and belittling everyone who enjoyed the game is not healthy

Who gives a shit, its a video game..

have a drink on me

 

[Jon Neu]

Who gives a shit, its a video game..

Okay everybody, time to close the forum!

 

[ZZZZ]

Dude, wtf

 

[Jon Neu]

Imagine thinking things like "how does a girl punched by a man not die" and "why is pregnant person not sick" are actual legitimate plot concerns

You are right, a little girl should totally survive being punched af full force by Mike Tyson and hit her head against a metallic structure.

Totally you can’t have concerns to the believability of all that.

And jeez, the fragile 40 lbs pregnant doctor is totally understandable to go outside and try to rescue someone. It’s not like the game has showed us that being pregnant it’s an incredibly physical handicap or that a doctor in the postapocalypse it’s actually one of the most precious things ever that shouldn’t be risked.

No legitimate concerns. Plot 10/10.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

 

[Cracklox]

This threads a good laugh. Imagine getting so worked up over some fictional pixels and the story they tell. Looking for agendas and shit in games. Politicizing everything. Giving in depth explanations about why a fictional character shouldn't look a certain way. Coming up with super cute nicknames for for games directors they don't like. It's all kinda bizarre but at the same time, pretty funny

so... what exactly is in one of those

Spoiler

bigot sandwiches

Oh, the one and half minute throwaway scene thats meant to be indicative of all the terrible writing in this game. I didn't know about the outrage about this scene till later, and actually had to youtube it, because I think I forgot about it literally 2 minutes later.

 

[Max_Po]

This threads a good laugh. Imagine getting so worked up over some fictional pixels and the story they tell. Looking for agendas and shit in games. Politicizing everything. Giving in depth explanations about why a fictional character shouldn't look a certain way. Coming up with super cute nicknames for for games directors they don't like. It's all kinda bizarre but at the same time, pretty funny



Oh, the one and half minute throwaway scene thats meant to be indicative of all the terrible writing in this game. I didn't know about the outrage about this scene till later, and actually had to youtube it, because I think I forgot about it literally 2 minutes later.

I C R I N G E D at that and was literally saying ... W T F ...

 

[Jon Neu]

I C R I N G E D at that and was literally saying ... W T F ...

Shhh.

Our new friend says you can’t get worked up at pixels and shit.

You can get worked out only for praising it, obviously.

 

[rofif]

This threads a good laugh. Imagine getting so worked up over some fictional pixels and the story they tell. Looking for agendas and shit in games. Politicizing everything. Giving in depth explanations about why a fictional character shouldn't look a certain way. Coming up with super cute nicknames for for games directors they don't like. It's all kinda bizarre but at the same time, pretty funny



Oh, the one and half minute throwaway scene thats meant to be indicative of all the terrible writing in this game. I didn't know about the outrage about this scene till later, and actually had to youtube it, because I think I forgot about it literally 2 minutes later.

I think it's still the leaks fuel burning.
People got on the "hurr durr bad lgbt story" leaks bandwagon that now they search for this in the game. I did too and it took hours of gameplay to win me over. I almost returned the game before half way into it because the leaks directed me to think certain way over the last month.
It's a big AAA game that tries some new stuff. Even if it's not perfect, I wish we had more of these and Death Stranding type. No microtransactions, great single player focused story... we don't get these nowadays.
And then the nitpicky haters ripping the game apart. They cannot get over Joel and cannot get over big muscles. That is a reason to hate the whole game often without even finishing or playing it

 

[CobraXT]

I have to say after watching the whole game in youtube , Abby muscles are absolutely dumb and hilarious , no way in hell she's consuming
enough kcal a day in an apocalypse to keep her muscle mass like that, sure her base is a literal gym, but she's literally the only buff person
around , not to mention even with that women cannot get this kind of body without male hormones and steroids , the whole story is just stupid
and unbelievable for me because of this

 

[rofif]

I have to say after watching the whole game in youtube , Abby muscles are absolutely dumb and hilarious , no way in hell she's consuming
enough kcal a day in an apocalypse to keep her muscle mass like that, sure her base is a literal gym, but she's literally the only buff person
around , not to mention even with that women cannot get this kind of body without male hormones and steroids .. the whole story is just stupid
and unbelievable for me because of this

We are still doing this? The story is stupid because of big muscles? How do You enjoy anything
Jeez, relax. Treat it is female chris redfield or something. Her campaign is very fun

 

[Steve.1981]

Abby does look ridiculous to a lot of people. That's just a fact. You can piss & moan all you want. People think she looks absurd. I think she looks absurd.

But at the same time, it's possible to get over that. It's possible to continue playing the game & not let her physique ruin everything for you.

You are right, a little girl should totally survive being punched af full force by Mike Tyson and hit her head against a metallic structure.

Totally you can’t have concerns to the believability of all that.

And jeez, the fragile 40 lbs pregnant doctor is totally understandable to go outside and try to rescue someone. It’s not like the game has showed us that being pregnant it’s an incredibly physical handicap or that a doctor in the postapocalypse it’s actually one of the most precious things ever that shouldn’t be risked.

No legitimate concerns. Plot 10/10.

You're right about these things. The game pushes suspension of disbelief to stretching point. Almost breaking point.

Yes, we're not in the real world. Yes, fungus zombies, etc... But it's jarring to watch a heavily pregnant woman thrown around in the bed of a truck as it smashes through walls & crashes into buildings. My immediate thought during that sequence was "Is she ok? Is that baby ok?"

& I seen that video of Fat Geralt laying out Lev stone cold yesterday. Again, my immediate thought was "Holy shit that kid's dead"

For me, there's just no point arguing these things. Suspension of disbelief can only be stretched so far.

 

[CobraXT]

We are still doing this? The story is stupid because of big muscles? How do You enjoy anything
Jeez, relax. Treat it is female chris redfield or something. Her campaign is very fun

The game treat itself as realistic and grounded .. if resident evil or dmc game have this kind of shit i could believe it .. because
the story is not grounded anyway ''it's anime style'' , honestly Jill running half naked fighting the nemesis in raccoon city is more
believable to me then this lol .. hell, it would even be tough for a man to get that buff in the apocalypse without constantly guzzling
chicken and rice that they somehow got their hands on. not only that but they would have to have naturally high test to begin with
. this is just reality

 

[Thaedolus]

RE: pregnancy. The first trimester is completely different from the second and third. The game acknowledges she really shouldn’t be out on patrol but she talked her way into it, and it’s totally believable Dina could be wiped out in the first trimester and this much more pregnant chick is much more physically able to get around, because that’s how actual pregnancies go. Some of these inconsistencies people are looking for read more like you’ve never had a SO give birth before.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

RE: pregnancy. The first trimester is completely different from the second and third. The game acknowledges she really shouldn’t be out on patrol but she talked her way into it, and it’s totally believable Dina could be wiped out in the first trimester and this much more pregnant chick is much more physically able to get around, because that’s how actual pregnancies go. Some of these inconsistencies people are looking for read more like you’ve never had a SO give birth before.

But I don't like looking at pregnant women or buff women.