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Assassin's Creed Valhalla will run at 4K 30FPS on Xbox Series X

I don't know how people's expectations got to the level they are at (actually I do, but that's a whole other story) but you only have to look at 2080ti 4k benchmarks with raytracing enabled to see what's really going on.

The push should be for RT (maybe at 1440p) or 4k @ 60fps, not both. Expecting both in AAA games will only end in tears.

if only we had PC style options game per game. Imagine being able to opt for 4k/RT/30 or 1440p/60 or whatever. I know that’s not how consoles typically work but I dunno, would be cool to me
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Yeah, it was always laughable hearing people say 4K 60FPS across the board for next generation
Performance and visuals have crept up over time. Valhalla is just one game so far, but expectations are things would still improve with new hardware even though visuals improve too.

360/PS3 = 720/30. Some games are 60 fps like sports and Call of Duty
Xbox One/PS4 = 900-1080p. More games at 60 fps. Just about any game that is not open world or a big SP Sony game
Pro/X = 1440p - 4k. Similar kinds of fps, but more stable at higher res and usually enhanced textures too. Some games include options for perf or res. Some games are 4k/60
PS5/SeX = It can only go up from Pro/X
 
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b0uncyfr0

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That better come with RT then - Ubi have no excuse to release a game on that kinda hardware and cripple it at 30 fps, ffs.

There better be options for 1080p 120 or 1440p 90.
 
yeah, I mean that's literally the officially stated reason, by Insomniac, why the Ratchet and Clank remake runs at 30fps instead of 60 like the original
And funny thing was the insomanic announced that the 2016 RC was the best selling entry in the franchise. Their study was supported by the result basically.
 
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Kenpachii

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if only we had PC style options game per game. Imagine being able to opt for 4k/RT/30 or 1440p/60 or whatever. I know that’s not how consoles typically work but I dunno, would be cool to me

They are making copy's for.

Xbox one
Xbox one S
Xbox one X
PS4
PS4 Pro
PC
Xbox series X
PS5

I can only imagine what a hell that must be. Now imagine multiple performance modes on those boxes that gotta be optimized all the way through for every one of them as they all use there own shitty layers of software.
 

01011001

Banned
if only we had PC style options game per game. Imagine being able to opt for 4k/RT/30 or 1440p/60 or whatever. I know that’s not how consoles typically work but I dunno, would be cool to me

I think they are scared that the more casual audience would be overwhelmed by this.
but I say, have a standard setting, and then hide an advanced menu in the video options, maybe even have a warning pop up that altering the options can negatively impact the experience of they really want, but give us options.

not only because of performance reasons, but also because there are effects many people can't stand
 

Postaldude40

Neo Member
User permanately removed from thread. If you are just here to console war, your time here will be very short.
They said minimum 30 FPS. So it will be higher then that at least on the Xbox version. If you want 4K/30 FPS then buy the PS5 it has secret sauce SSD technology that loads your into the game faster so you can enjoy lower FPS instantly.
 
They said minimum 30 FPS. So it will be higher then that at least on the Xbox version. If you want 4K/30 FPS then buy the PS5 it has secret sauce SSD technology that loads your into the game faster so you can enjoy lower FPS instantly.
Why do you have to go off topic and do console warrior like this ? The article is about xsx as the question was asked about xsx.
 

ethomaz

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Performance and visuals have crept up over time. Valhalla is just one game so far, but expectations are things would still improve with new hardware even though visuals improve too.

360/PS3 = 720/30. Some games are 60 fps like sports and Call of Duty
Xbox One/PS4 = 900-1080p. More games at 60 fps. Just about any game that is not open world or a big SP Sony game
Pro/X = 1440p - 4k. Similar kinds of fps, but more stable at higher res and usually enhanced textures too. Some games include options for perf or res. Some games are 4k/60
PS5/SeX = It can only go up from Pro/X
I don't believe the number of 60fps games increased at all.
Racing and sports games trend to be 60fps since PS1.

Vastly majority of PS4/XB1 games are 30fps.
I expect the same this generation.

Just like PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5, etc etc etc.
 
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Hobbygaming

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Performance and visuals have crept up over time. Valhalla is just one game so far, but expectations are things would still improve with new hardware even though visuals improve too.

360/PS3 = 720/30. Some games are 60 fps like sports and Call of Duty
Xbox One/PS4 = 900-1080p. More games at 60 fps. Just about any game that is not open world or a big SP Sony game
Pro/X = 1440p - 4k. Similar kinds of fps, but more stable at higher res and usually enhanced textures too. Some games include options for perf or res. Some games are 4k/60
PS5/SeX = It can only go up from Pro/X
Graphics will always be easier to advertise/market over frames though so we'll be seeing more 30FPS games
 

Echelon

Member
Remember the decade of 1080@30? Welcome to the decade of 2160@30. The occasional lower-fidelity title and indie stuff will hit 60, but consoles will be the refresh rate ghetto for another 10 years.
 

RookX22

Member
Well damn, I didn't realise how badly even the 2080Ti performs on Odyssey.
Are they really that visually impressive?
Nope just bad optimization. If you watch benchmarks and play it on pc and watch the fps and utilization charts when it drops below 60 the gpu isnt at 100% most of the time the utilization drops when the same time the fps drops, to me it shows bad optimizations. I have experienced this in other games also.
 

dottme

Member
They are making copy's for.

Xbox one
Xbox one S
Xbox one X
PS4
PS4 Pro
PC
Xbox series X
PS5

I can only imagine what a hell that must be. Now imagine multiple performance modes on those boxes that gotta be optimized all the way through for every one of them as they all use there own shitty layers of software.
You can probably add one more Xbox as there is a heavily rumored Lockhart coming.
 

UltimaKilo

Gold Member
Why is everyone going nuts over this? The consoles aren’t beefy enough to run 4K60 without severely cutting back on graphics or Ray Tracking, which is what moves software.

In 2-3 years you’ll get your “pro” machines and 4K60.
 
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UltimaKilo

Gold Member
The current "pro" versions do 4K30, is it weird to expect the next generation to do better?

No, but all that processing power is being used for graphical performance, which as I edited in my post, sells software. I’m sure other developers will go the 4K60 route, but it won’t be standard.

I’m not happy about it either.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
Then they should have shown that and done a comparison to current gen like they did for Black Flag.

Dumb.

Hopefully July has that to drive home what you can do with 12tf.
 

Codes 208

Member
They are making copy's for.

Xbox one
Xbox one S
Xbox one X
PS4
PS4 Pro
PC
Xbox series X
PS5

I can only imagine what a hell that must be. Now imagine multiple performance modes on those boxes that gotta be optimized all the way through for every one of them as they all use there own shitty layers of software.
The thing is this isnt exactly the days of devs focusing on multiple architectures (like ports for the xbox/ps2/360/ps3/wii/nds) type of development. All oc these consoles have one main consistent which should actually make porting easier: theyre all using the same for of PC-based architecture. Plus the asscreed team is made up of hundreds of devs/engineers, theyre not children.
Is it hard work? Yes, thats why it takes years to make games but porting is hardly a reason why this game would perform less than expected: for one, the recent asscreed games required quite a bit of grunt work for even mid range PC’s to run 4k/60fps, this was kind of expect (albeit still a bit disappointing, but it is ubisoft afterall.)
 
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Riven326

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These people that believe the hype. They think they're going to get dual 2080 ti performance out of a $500 box. It's ridiculous on its face.

The console manufacturers play a role in this too. They play fast and loose with the truth. XSX has been advertised as "8k/60hz ready" or some such nonsense. Yeah, maybe for a fucking remaster of Pong or Pac Man. But it sets these unrealistic expectations. People think they're going to be playing Halo Infinite at 8k/60hz and then they get all pissy when reality interrupts the fantasy. Sony does it too. This isn't console war shit.
 
No, but all that processing power is being used for graphical performance, which as I edited in my post, sells software. I’m sure other developers will go the 4K60 route, but it won’t be standard.

I’m not happy about it either.

Maybe when we see some real gameplay we'll understand the decision, just hope there's an option to get 60fps on console.
 

Night.Ninja

Banned


This is how I feel.

I'm now thinking is it even possible for origins to get a 60fps bump.

But it is expected with the amount of versions they are creating ,hopefully the next AC will skip current gen and be strictly next gen.

It just goes to show how weak the CPU is in these currently gen consoles

This is one of the issues that arrise when a new gen starts, more time your just getting a slightly better looking games
 
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Jtibh

Banned
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So much for all games running at 60fps on series x.
Nah man this GARBAGE cross gen game cant run 60 4k but it sure as shit will run 1800p at 30 on xbox one x you watch.

This is ubisoft this garbage corporate company who are lazy useless and cant even make a cross gen game run 60fps come on now.

From what i saw series x is more tha capable to run this unimpressive turd at 60.
 
These people that believe the hype. They think they're going to get dual 2080 ti performance out of a $500 box. It's ridiculous on its face.

The console manufacturers play a role in this too. They play fast and loose with the truth. XSX has been advertised as "8k/60hz ready" or some such nonsense. Yeah, maybe for a fucking remaster of Pong or Pac Man. But it sets these unrealistic expectations. People think they're going to be playing Halo Infinite at 8k/60hz and then they get all pissy when reality interrupts the fantasy. Sony does it too. This isn't console war shit.

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But on a serious note, I have to unblock some people just to see how they react to this. A handful of them seriously were saying how much more powerful it is to the 2080 Ti, and RTX Titan. In my head I'm thinking, for 5-600 bucks?! *laughs in braille*
 

Codes 208

Member
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So much for all games running at 60fps on series x.
Nah man this GARBAGE cross gen game cant run 60 4k but it sure as shit will run 1800p at 30 on xbox one x you watch.

This is ubisoft this garbage corporate company who are lazy useless and cant even make a cross gen game run 60fps come on now.

From what i saw series x is more tha capable to run this unimpressive turd at 60.
If i were to take a guess the S will run the game at a possible dynamic res around 900p with settings equivelant to low-mid. The X will likely see a rez bump to around 1440-1600p with settings mixed between mid and high and the SX will see full 4k with maxed settings.

again, it sucks that it cant hit 60fps but I’ll wait for more in-depth comparisons as to whether or not the upgrade would actually be worth it.
 

mortal

Gold Member
Welp lol

I guess Ubisoft are going for raytracing over better performance. I'm actually surprised that a cross-gen game would have to make that sacrifice tbh.
 

Jtibh

Banned
If i were to take a guess the S will run the game at a possible dynamic res around 900p with settings equivelant to low-mid. The X will likely see a rez bump to around 1440-1600p with settings mixed between mid and high and the SX will see full 4k with maxed settings.

again, it sucks that it cant hit 60fps but I’ll wait for more in-depth comparisons as to whether or not the upgrade would actually be worth it.
The joke is it can hit 60 at 4k or 1800p but the devs choose not to.
Optimized my ass.

No lets just agree that the devs are lazy or had no time to " optimize".
For fuck sakes how much better of a processor do we need in a console to hit 60.
I bet if we would havea 1000 dollar console with 2080 ti intel i9 or above we would still have the game running at 30
 

Codes 208

Member
The joke is it can hit 60 at 4k or 1800p but the devs choose not to.
Optimized my ass.

No lets just agree that the devs are lazy or had no time to " optimize".
For fuck sakes how much better of a processor do we need in a console to hit 60.
I bet if we would havea 1000 dollar console with 2080 ti intel i9 or above we would still have the game running at 30
No.
 

HAL-01

Member
As I said in another thread if people are expecting a significant jump In graphics quality next gen expect either frame rate or resolution to give in. I expect dynamic resolutions and whatever advanced upscaling technique they come up with to give us a nice boost
 
The joke is it can hit 60 at 4k or 1800p but the devs choose not to.
Optimized my ass.

No lets just agree that the devs are lazy or had no time to " optimize".
For fuck sakes how much better of a processor do we need in a console to hit 60.
I bet if we would havea 1000 dollar console with 2080 ti intel i9 or above we would still have the game running at 30
Actually its not ubisift being lazy. Its their engine. Rtx 2080 ti paired with high clock i9 hits 60 fps rarely and falls in the 45 fps range . Xsx and ps5 are below that for both gpu and cpu.
 
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NT80

Member
ahahahaha at 4k 30 fps hahahahah.

and people here thought its the second coming. its a fucking 500$ console. do not think it will do miracles. PS5 is even worse lol.

you want real 4k 60 fps ultra on all games ? its PC only. period.

with that being said i am probably still gonna buy SXS and the PS5 day one because in theory both consoles probably cheaper than one 3080 lol
It's far too soon to make those sort of judgments for what lies ahead. I remember thinking that way when Prey was 30fps on Xbox 360 near launch but it ended up being capable of much more than that.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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But the teraflops. If the XBone can do 1080/30 and the XSX has 6 times the teraflops, it should be able to hit 6K right. That's how this works right? right?

You're assuming that everything else is identical. Surely the assets, draw distance, shadows, object density, LOD range, post processing, etc. etc. are all going to be vastly improved on XSX along with the 4x boost in pixels.
 
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Captain Hero

The Spoiler Soldier
Some just want to hate Xbox right away so let me give it to ya :



reasons why it’s on 30 FPS

• this is UBISOFT
• it’s a cross-gen
• it’s UBISOFT again ( just to make sure )
• they said it’s a lot smaller than Odyssey but still can’t achieve 60 with 4K ( again this is third party and it’s Ubisoft goddammit )

FYI PS5 will have the same setting ..
 

makaveli60

Member
ACs were always among the top games technically. I suppose they don't intend to change that and the next AC developed fully for nextgen will be also 30 fps. They maybe don't want to introduce 60 fps now only to get back to 30 fps later.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
if only we had PC style options game per game. Imagine being able to opt for 4k/RT/30 or 1440p/60 or whatever. I know that’s not how consoles typically work but I dunno, would be cool to me

At that point, just bite the bullet and get a PC. Especially if you are a gamer who cares enough to complain about 30fps or ask for graphical options. A platform exists to give them all of that!

I still would argue that people buy consoles because they want convenience, and part of that is not fiddling around with options.
 
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