Grinchy
Banned
I think this sucks. Transgender people already get all the attention. It makes living as an absorgender so much harder. Where's our recognition, Disney? We're literally dying out here!
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Marvel’s Kevin Feige confirms a transgender character is being introduced to the MCU
AfricanKing
Member
No one is forcing you to watch this movie that has not even been casted yet nor had anything else confirmed.
sol_bad
Member
Have you been living under a rock?
Four movies in the top 10 highest grossing films are capeshit. And they were all released in the last 5 years.
<_<
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This answer has me dying to know who Feige is talking about.
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Sacke & Sugar
Banned
I hope its Capt. America
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slugbahr
Unconfirmed Member
I hope it's Captain Marvel
Papa
Banned
“Don’t like it, don’t see it” quoth the amoeba again and again until there were no movies left to see.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
This is going to be great because no matter how good the storyline is, the trans community will find something in the movie, the character, the look, etc..... to rag on.
And it's not like movies and comics can have a quick fix the next day.
Once it's out, and there's something to complain about, it'll be 24/7 whining, until the writers figure out a way to change it 6 months later in a comic or 2 years later in the next film the superhero shows up in.
And it's not like movies and comics can have a quick fix the next day.
Once it's out, and there's something to complain about, it'll be 24/7 whining, until the writers figure out a way to change it 6 months later in a comic or 2 years later in the next film the superhero shows up in.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
I've now lost count of the amount of times the "Nothing to see here" brigade have purposefully gone into multiple threads and made multiple posts saying "Nothing to see here" and "If you don't like it just move along".
The former being a case of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks", the latter being a clear case of being unable to practice what they preach.
And this, among other demonstrable reasons, is why their arguments lack credibility.
The former being a case of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks", the latter being a clear case of being unable to practice what they preach.
And this, among other demonstrable reasons, is why their arguments lack credibility.
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AfricanKing
Member
Crying SJW over a film that has no name, no cast, no plot and no information.
Maybe wait till something solid gets confirmed. Even if this does get made there are well over 50+ superhero films and tv shows that cater to every need you’re not losing out.
Papa
Banned
I’ll be fine — I don’t watch superhero movies.
We do have information though: the hero will be transgender. That’s the issue. They’ve announced their politics before anything else. That never bodes well.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
AfricanKing
Member
Was it really announced?
They where asked a question on a panel - no grand spectacle was made.
Papa
Banned
Uh, yes? They were asked a question on a panel and then they answered the question, confirming that one of the characters in a MCU movie they are currently shooting will be trans. That's what the thread is about.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
No joke, be careful what you wish for.
AfricanKing
Member
You said
You’re making it look like that was their intent all along. When in reality it was an answer to a very specific and direct question. If they suddenly came out and said ”First Transgender Superhero Movie” without anyone asking them then yeah you would have a point.
But their intent was not to put politics before showcasing a new MCU addition.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Low-key true.
Papa
Banned
I don’t know who’s more obtuse: you or sol_bad.
Do you honestly believe that the inclusion of this character has nothing to do with politics? Do you think they were going to just quietly slip it in there and hope no one noticed? Engage your brain, mate. I know you have one rattling around in there somewhere.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
I'll judge it when it's out.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
Marvel to get first transgender superhero
There's a trans character in a film that's currently being shot, according to Marvel's boss.
www.bbc.co.uk
BBC wasting no time cheerleading the nothing-known-other-than-the-identity-politics aspect of this sycophantic nonsense.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Edit: It's worth noting that this isn't published under the 'News' or 'Entertainment' areas of the BBC website, but the 'Newsbeat' area.
Newsbeat is produced by BBC News but differs from the BBC's other news programmes in its remit to provide news tailored for a specifically younger audience.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
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Flintty
Member
Marvel have already done enough to make me lose interest in the MCU going forward, by doing away with two of the big male players and emasculating Thor in the name of comedy before apparently replacing him/them with an all female lead lineup, including finale Thor.
A Trans character doesn’t offend me but it’s also something I have little interest in. That’s fine, if I’m not your target audience (which increasingly appears to be the case), crack on and I’ll rewatch all my old favourites and reminisce about the good old days.
A good thing really, my MCU Hot Toys collection was getting too big!
A Trans character doesn’t offend me but it’s also something I have little interest in. That’s fine, if I’m not your target audience (which increasingly appears to be the case), crack on and I’ll rewatch all my old favourites and reminisce about the good old days.
A good thing really, my MCU Hot Toys collection was getting too big!
Or I'll do whatever I want with my hatred and vitriol, thanks very much.
Fucking sick of these absolute wankers telling me what I should and should not care about and how much I'm allowed to care.
Kindly go fuck yourself. xx
On the topic at hand I reckon Hollywood should have done things like this long ago.
Does anyone think that back in the days of the original X-Men or The Matrix (late 90s, early 00s) that people wouldn't have been accepting of a front and center gay or trans character?
The truth is that they let this stuff run on for so long that there is massive pressure on them to do it and to do it right.
If they do this now then they will get grief from people who think they are pandering to the SJW mob.
If they get it wrong then they will get shit from the SJW mob for not getting it 100% correct first time.
For example, I can imagine if they were to cast a super-hot trans-woman in whatever this new role might be then the SJW crowd are going to flip their shit over pandering to the "male gaze" or some other bullshit. Watch it happen.
Didn't they do something similar with Cyberpunk 2077? There was trans representation in early screenshots of the game but it was "sexualized" so they took the huff and started crying. Only pudgy, non-passing, unattractive, trans allowed!
Ultimately though I think these studios need to stop talking shit and actually put some main LGBTQ characters into their movies and shows.
Instead of inspiring paragraph after paragraph of nonsense maybe they could just write some good characters?
It'll be interesting anyway.
Will we get a character who has some powers and who also just happens to have transitioned?
Will their transition be part of their backstory somehow? Or would that be seen as something similar to "deadnaming"?
Or will the character be trans because of their superpower? So they got their powers and also transitioned at the same time?
Or will they just cast a trans actress to play a character and otherwise not bring it up?
Saber
Gold Member
They-hulk
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Hxlk
sol_bad
Member
Interesting.
Where in the quote does it say the trans character will be a hero? What's the hero's name?
Even if China weren't involved, the lead still wouldn't be trans. It's frickin Disney the family company. LOL
ManaByte
Gold Member
DKehoe
Member
Have they said there will be a trans main character? I thought they had just said a trans character. Which for Disney usually means some small background character as a token gesture to that community, like the lesbian kiss in the new Star Wars. In the newest Avengers they hyped up that they were gonna have their first gay character and it turned out to be some guy Captain America talks to for a couple seconds.
Turnt
Member
Marvel to get first transgender superhero
There's a trans character in a film that's currently being shot, according to Marvel's boss.www.bbc.co.uk
BBC wasting no time cheerleading the nothing-known-other-than-the-identity-politics aspect of this sycophantic nonsense.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Edit: It's worth noting that this isn't published under the 'News' or 'Entertainment' areas of the BBC website, but the 'Newsbeat' area.
Newsbeat is produced by BBC News but differs from the BBC's other news programmes in its remit to provide news tailored for a specifically younger audience.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Those movies are popular with kids. What’s happening with the next Marvel film is the kind of news kids are interested in. It’s not all a grand conspiracy.
ManaByte
Gold Member
I can see them donsomething like Spiderwoman with a transgender.
Marvel can't use Spiderwoman.
Kamina
Golden Boy
Oh yeah! Puh, at least that one is safe for now.
ManaByte
Gold Member
sol_bad
Member
These are the lead characters in The Eternals:
Ya I know.
I'm not sure what your reply means in relation to my post
^_^
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Now proudly emblazoned prominently as a 'top story' on the front page of the BBC website.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
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Turnt
Member
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Now proudly emblazoned prominently as a 'top story' on the front page of the BBC website.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
Talk me through this plan. So the movie studios and news outlets are in cahoots to promote trans people because what? What’s the end game?
Mihos
Gold Member
Jessica Jones had a trans secretary. Should have just had them show up in End Game.
I have since the 70s, why would I stop now?
I have since the 70s, why would I stop now?
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Jooxed
Gold Member
Northstar I’m cool with love Northstar but I have to admit Iceman was probably the only one that made me question if they were doing it on an agenda. Iceman was always the ladies guy. Still one of my favorite X characters but the change was unnecessary when the young x-men came into the picture, and to be honest it hasn’t really led to any interesting story lines unless I missed something.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
Indoctrination.
But, as you and a few others are firmly in the NOTHING TO SEE HERE camp. As they are in every thread that shows evidence of these efforts and endorsements, repeating odiously that there is definitely NOTHING TO SEE HERE over and over and over and over and over again.
The more evidence the real world throws at you and the more you insist no such evidence exists, the further away from reality the NOTHING TO SEE HERE argument becomes.
sol_bad
Member
You'd think the anger would be directed at the media outlets and not at Disney/Marvel.
Catman, did it ever occur to you that people have different opinions and thought processes to yourself? So for some people, there is nothing to see here for them. They simply don't care and don't make drama over every little thing.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
Who is expressing anger?
Why is there a need to project emotion when countering a position that is referencing evidence and those claiming no such evidence exists?
I love this sort of question purely for the sheer hypocrisy inherent in the mentality of the person that asks it.
That'd be fine if, those people didn't try to tone-police, dismiss, silence those who feel differently..
..and then those same people get extremely bent out of shape when others don't care about the things they claim are a concern to them.
As we see: It really doesn't take very long for logic and reason to become replaced by using emotions and name-calling as part of the "I don't need to listen to you, but you need to listen to me" stance of our self-appointed moral gate-keepers.
For those of us that still value logic and reason, such methods show the intellectual bankruptcy of your position.
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Turnt
Member
I realise I was perhaps a bit flippant in the way I asked, so apologies for that. But I am genuinely curious to hear your perspective on this. Because personally I just don’t understand what the overall motivation is. You say it’s indoctrination but to what end? Indoctrinating people to do what? Why is the issue of trans people specifically being used for this? What does people becoming more accepting of trans people achieve for these corporations?
