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China Bans Kids From Gaming After 10pm, And Over 90 Minutes A Day

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hariseldon

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As they say, China plays civilization as the west plays call of duty. BTW south Korea has had a similar scheme for over 10 years now.



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If you knew anything about the typical day of a Chinese 5-17 year old kid, you would know that even 90 minutes a day of gaming is a luxury.

So here is a refresher;

Wake up at 7am. Have breakfast, get dressed and go to school. Arrive to school at 9am. Full on study until 12pm, no breaks. Then a 3 hour 'home break', where you go home, refresh, do some school tasks, have lunch and come back to school by 3pm. Then from 3pm-6pm more full on study at school, no breaks. Then you are let go and come home by 6:30-7pm. You spend the next 2 hours having dinner, doing homework, and preparing for tomorrows lessons. It is now ~10pm. You can now spend until 11:30-12am playing games, but you would only get 6-7 hours of sleep, which isn't enough for a child. Or you go to bed straight at 10pm, which is what most kids do. Hence the post-10pm ban.

And this only for kids in primary schooling. Forget about highschool, you got zero hours to game there except maybe on Sunday's.

This law is there to protect children and teens who's grades are slipping due to a gaming addiction, and even 90 mins a day limit may not be adequate for reasons stated above.



Not only is summer vacation in china just 2 weeks long, it is used as prep time to catch up on former schooling work, or if the child is ahead, to get even further ahead. Meritocracy demands sacrifice. STEM graduation demands hard work.
And that’s how you end up with stunted social development and complete obedience to the state.
 
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hariseldon

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Yep, you can already see the results. So friggin many kids wear the glasses these days.
Myopia in kids and teenagers is already an epidemic. But we're still not at peak ipad toddler just yet. There are going to be other interesting defects too with time as they become older.
This is going to be amazing.

Tbh nearsightedness isn’t that big a deal and modern screens are nowhere near as bad as the CRT crap I grew up with.

The iPad problem is quite something. I know a few primary teachers who tell me that kids even from middle class families are entering the school system with vastly poorer cognitive development than in the past. They blame parents sitting their kids in front of tablets and ignoring them while they watch utter tripe. These kids can’t use a toilet or feed themselves at far later ages than is usual. It’s a big worry.
 
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RealGassy

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Nearsightedness is heritetary. What does viewing a screen have to do with it? There are people who look at screens everyday and have no vision problems as it's not from what you think. Do you also thing jacking off makes you blind too?
If it's only hereditary, then considering rapidly increasing rates of nearsightedness, that would mean that bespectacled people are having more kids than those without these days.

Hmm, hmm, that doesn't sound right.
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And that’s how you end up with stunted social development and complete obedience to the state.

Or you end up with a highly educated, good work ethic population. As they say, nobody likes hard work until it yields results.

It might be how you make 'murica great again. lol

What's the point of a lazy, free childhood if the rest of your life is spent working 3 jobs struggling because you were lazy enough to rack up a giant debt doing social studies in college. kek. STEM that shit up son.
 
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Dr.Morris79

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Sorry to be an old misrable fart but I have a nine year old and yes, overplaying the computer turns him into a little shit 90% of the time

But we, as a couple, regulate him, we dont need to be told otherwise.

But then I guess maybe too many people think of it as an electronic stand in for parenting, which is shit.
 
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hariseldon

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Or you end up with a highly educated, good work ethic population. As they say, nobody likes hard work until it yields results.

It might be how you make 'murica great again. lol

What's the point of a lazy, free childhood if the rest of your life is spent working 3 jobs struggling because you were lazy enough to rack up a giant debt doing social studies in college. kek. STEM that shit up son.

One can be well-educated with a strong work ethic without becoming a drone. There is a healthy middle ground between idleness and what China does. I agree that you work hard when you're young so you don't have to work quite so hard when you're older, but like most things it starts to fall apart at the extremes. How's your Social Credit score coming along btw? Must be building up nicely given how much time you spend on here shilling for the Chinese government.
 
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hariseldon

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Sorry to be an old misrable fart but I have a nine year old and yes, overplaying the computer turns him into a little shit 90% of the time

But we, as a couple, regulate him, we dont need to be told otherwise.

But then I guess maybe too many people think of it as an electronic stand in for parenting, which is shit.

And that's a perfectly sensible thing for a parent to do. Any child when given freedom to do as they please will become a shit. Good parenting is making hard decisions, not being their friend but being the one who looks after their best interests. The key thing is that it's the parent who should do that, not the government.
 
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Rat Rage

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Can somebody please explain how all of this is going to work in practise? Online games can be shut down at 10 pm (and maybe limited to 90 min a day?), but you can still play your offline games.
 
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hariseldon

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Can somebody please explain how all of this is going to work in practise? Online games can be shut down at 10 pm (and maybe limited to 90 min a day?), but you can still play your offline games.

One would presume that in China you can't buy a PC/phone/console without state monitoring software installed and thus that software limits what you can do. Just a guess but it seems reasonably likely.
 

Ingeniero

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Can somebody please explain how all of this is going to work in practise? Online games can be shut down at 10 pm (and maybe limited to 90 min a day?), but you can still play your offline games.
Kids are very obedient in China, they will follow this rule by the second.
 

Videospel

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This isn't a question whether the rule is sensible or not. Yes, every parent should have rules for their children. I wouldn't bat an eye if a parent set a limit of 90 minutes a day. But having the state decide what its citizens do in the privacy of their home is an extremely uncomfortable idea. Does the Chinese government not trust its people? They keep doing things like this. Its one thing to encourage more sports or outdoors activities, but no normal country would decide this by law.

How do you even decide what is a game? Or what playing is? Is it ok to customize your character for 2 hours? Or maybe have the game running in the background all afternoon but only playing a couple of short games in your study breaks? Could someone report you for seeing your profile online for more than 90 minutes in a day? Could you falsely accuse a rival for playing too long?
 

Gerdav

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Probably by having a guard inside each household, living with the family.

More jobs created by the state, they just keep on giving.

Can somebody please explain how all of this is going to work in practise? Online games can be shut down at 10 pm (and maybe limited to 90 min a day?), but you can still play your offline games.

It’s China everything probably comes with monitoring software and kill switch, if they don’t the glorious leader will soon see it.
 

JCK75

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Not bad by Chinese standards, my Chinese wife start yelling at me and my child if we play a game for more than 10 minutes..
 

Thurible

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Though I agree more than 90 minutes of play a day would be unproductive especially for a child, I don't see what gives China the right to mandate who can play what for how long.
 

Petrae

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France banned phones for kids in school up to 15 years, includes brakes and mealtimes

it’s not only China

Kids don’t need cell phones, especially in school. Given that government funds are going to schools and phones are providing distractions from education in the classroom, I’m marginally okay with it... though it would be far better for individual schools and school districts to initiate and enforce their own bans, with governments providing protection for said bans from overbearing parents who think that their little angels should be exempt because “What if something happens?”

Communication with parents/family still remains as easy as a phone call to the main office. No kid needs a cell phone during school hours.

What happens at home, though, really shouldn’t be a governmental concern. Ideally, parents should be setting reasonable limits for their children when it comes to screen time, eating habits, and sedentary behavior.
 

Petrae

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I have had the pleasure of teaching in schools with and without phone use. I can assure you that taking their phones out of lessons is a good thing, and no more an infringement on rights than insisting you not check your Facebook at work.

Exactly. Kids are unable to separate themselves from their phones, which creates a serious distraction in the classroom. Some even forget to silence/vibrate their phones, leading to notifications and ringing during class time... which distracts everyone. And if staff/administrators take the phone away because of it, parents raise holy hell.

— What if there’s a shooter?
— What if something happens that I need to talk to my child?
— What if my child needs me?

Unlike employers, who can fire employees for unauthorized use of their phones on company time... schools not only can’t fire kids, but they can’t even discipline them without significant blowback. This kind of thing will lead the kids to a rough transition when they’re adults; parents won’t be able to convince an employer to not discipline their kids when they’re caught checking Twitter, Snapchat, or TikTok instead of working.

Apologies for the thread derail.
 

dalekjay

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I have had the pleasure of teaching in schools with and without phone use. I can assure you that taking their phones out of lessons is a good thing, and no more an infringement on rights than insisting you not check your Facebook at work.

what are the ages of your students? just curious
 
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