Gears multiplayer is the best its EVER been, as a huge fan of the past games this one is by far the absolute best of them. I can TOTALLY see someone spending money saved from buying the game, on in game purchases. You should try the game yourself and find out...oh wait....you're that PS only guy...that talks like this....Yeah there are microtransactions, but what is the possibility of someone not buying the game @ $60 going on to spend tonnes of money in Micro transactions?....Gears multiplayer is no longer as good as it used to be, neither is it as popular, you don't own the game with gamepass, it will come off the service
eventually........Why would you spend all your money in Gears microtransactions? I think most people got gamepass for the Gears Campaign, I mean why not......
I have a very capable pc but still chose oneX due to hdr and easier connection to atmos.I bet you more people played this on PC over the "XBOX" console, including XBOX owners with a capable PC, same achievements right, no need to sub to live for MP...You can also play at locked 60fps with much better settings.....Maxing everything up......
Same here, HDR and Freesync on the OneX makes it a really pretty sightI have a very capable pc but still chose oneX due to hdr and easier connection to atmos.
Jesus, the posts in this remind me of late 2000s console war gaf, absolutely disgusting,.I bet you more people played this on PC over the "XBOX" console, including XBOX owners with a capable PC, same achievements right, no need to sub to live for MP...You can also play at locked 60fps with much better settings.....Maxing everything up......
Oh boy!Gears multiplayer is the best its EVER been, as a huge fan of the past games this one is by far the absolute best of them. I can TOTALLY see someone spending money saved from buying the game, on in game purchases. You should try the game yourself and find out...oh wait....you're that PS only guy...that talks like this....
I have a very capable pc but still chose oneX due to hdr and easier connection to atmos.
No problem, I have a 4k, HDR+Fressync Monitor...….I can play Gears 5 in HDR on my monitor, I chose not to, I preferred how it looked without HDR.....I tried HDR btw......I can take screens if you want......Also PC has a pretty good ATMOS app.....Same here, HDR and Freesync on the OneX makes it a really pretty sight
Sarcasm I hope?How many copies sold? That's the meaningful statistic.
Are you really judging the success of their subscription model because "you" unsubscribed?I'm sure they'd have benefited more from my £45 and month of Gold than £2 for Gamepass which I've already cancelled.
Really don't see how this recent promotion benefits them.
Sarcasm I hope?
I'd say the meaningful stat is 'How many Game Pass subscriptions did it drive'?How many copies sold? That's the meaningful statistic.
Why would that be sarcastic? Sales aren't important?
I'm glad you're not running the Xbox division.How are you comparing Gears 5 to probably the most profitable game of all time? They will make nowhere near that much in microtransactions and the people that bought the $2 deal and renew will be minimal, probably not even enough to recoup the money they lost in gold subscriptions let alone the cost to make the game.
Giving away the game + gold for a crackhead price was a straight desperation play to get more subscribers, this game was pretty much written off as a loss.
You are crazy if you don't think as the population gets older and streaming becomes, even more, the norm then now, streaming will increase. We are in the infancy stages of streaming digital media. The growth potential is insane.Netflix losses money on every customer. They are burning cash at $2-4b annual rate. Come back when MS invest $5-10b more.
The numbers really don't work out as there in nobody is signing up for $10 a month or more.
If my Aunt had nuts, she would be my Uncle.
Okay...nothing to relevance to say?I'm glad you're not running the Xbox division.
This argument is going to come up every time Microsoft releases a first party game on Game Pass, isn't it?
Microsoft benefits more from selling subscriptions than it does selling individual games.
Lucky you also don't run the Xbox division.Spider-Man sold 3.3 million copies at full price in 3 days last Sept. And it was only on one platform.
Gears is a flagship exclusive, and the vast majority of people I guarantee rented it (i.e. GamePass for $1-$2). Many of those aren't going to stick around long term and are just gonna check it out for the sake of checking it out. Gears is on PC & Consoles. In the full scope of things, 3 million doesn't seem that impressive. Of course Microsoft is gonna sound pleased. You really expect them to say...fuck, maybe this isn't sustainable long term????
Lifelong Unique users isn't gonna tell you anything. What will be interesting is unique players by month a month or two from now. But you'll never get those number out of MS. Instead, they'll tell you how many people were chainsawed to death. Real Talk
Yeah, idk. So many things can change in 14 months, but right now, i want to play
Now sony has exclusives yes, such as vr, super serious gt sport, and aaa critic bait 3rd person action games, none of which are free with cheapass sub, and none of which i personally would buy a console for.
- slay the spire ($40 on psn, free on gamepass),
- Outerworlds (will be $79.99 cdn at launch on psn)
- west of loathing (not on psn),
- Horizon 4 (no AAA arcadey racer on psn except the dead driveclub and garbage tier crew2)
- State of Decay 2
- Devil May Cry 5 ($47 on psn)
- Stellaris ($40 on psn)
- You get the idea
So right now, MS is posititioning themselves to kill at the start of next gen in terms of value. and i say this as someone who dislikes MS and sees them as a tool of US hegemony with blood on their hands.
However, if the cost of the ms console is $600 cdn, with a $20 cdn per month gamepass cost plus $69 per year gold...well then PC starts looking good. But a $500 console with $72 for 36 months of gamepass ultimate, I’ll probably bite.
This is a lie and I’m quite sure you don’t have what it takes to do the math to justify that comment!
$60 game sells for $2 on game pass!
How in the fuck does a $2 subscription for a game that would ya e at least broke even qualify as “benefiting” MS?
I’m lost here! Seriously dude digital is on the rise and a lot of people would rather pay that $2 than spend $60 but nowhere near enough to even pay for marketing for this game could be recouped from subs as Xbox doesn’t even have nearly enough install base as it is!
Game seems fun and all but let’s stop bullshitting ourselves with these sub services when they’re priced like this!
That’s like Netflix dropping subs to $1
3 million users? wow. thats $3 million in revenue!
Lucky you also don't run the Xbox division.
Why would you quote me? I don't really care how you theoretically played the game..I can take screens if you want....
He mad he isn't part of X1X gangWhy would you quote me? I don't really care how you theoretically played the game
This is true, 90% of the people I play with/against are on Xbox.People assuming again that everybody owns a gaming pc... Truth of the matter is, Gears IS a console exclusive.
Everyone I know IRL that owns an Xbox One (myself included) subscribes to Game Pass at full price. Anecdotal, sure, but that's the kind of market Microsoft is hoping to capture. Those $2 subscriptions (or whatever the loss leading, essentially "free trial" is this time around) turn into $120/year subscriptions at probably a pretty high rate. And rightfully so because it's actually a great value. Every new first party title that gets release just pushes the value proposition even farther. Obviously, Microsoft is gambling that you'll stay subscribed rather than just quitting after the trial.This is a lie and I’m quite sure you don’t have what it takes to do the math to justify that comment!
$60 game sells for $2 on game pass!
How in the fuck does a $2 subscription for a game that would ya e at least broke even qualify as “benefiting” MS?
I’m lost here! Seriously dude digital is on the rise and a lot of people would rather pay that $2 than spend $60 but nowhere near enough to even pay for marketing for this game could be recouped from subs as Xbox doesn’t even have nearly enough install base as it is!
Game seems fun and all but let’s stop bullshitting ourselves with these sub services when they’re priced like this!
That’s like Netflix dropping subs to $1
Lol, you got me Chase...…. …...He mad he isn't part of X1X gang
I have a very capable pc but still chose oneX due to hdr and easier connection to atmos.
Ahhh Ok, So HDR and Atmos right? and Theoretical playthrough right? I got you....Why would you quote me? I don't really care how you theoretically played the game
Umm what?
Gamers and casuals buy Sony and Nintendo systems for their exclusive software offerings that you can't get on any other platform.
That’s like Netflix dropping subs to $1
The fact that a Sony dev can be humble and respect what other developers are trying to do in the space < Gaf posters crying about sales and “free” trials.
The fact that a Sony dev can be humble and respect what other developers are trying to do in the space < Gaf posters crying about sales and “free” trials.
Seriously. It’s fucking exhausting to watch the same few spout the same shit over and over again.
If you hate games, stop fucking gaming, and if you want to pretend to like games, pretend to like them all.
It was going to hit 3 mil regardless. I know I would have bought it if I didn’t already have Gamepass.People dont find it impressive cobsidering it was based on they were giving it away for 2 bucks.
We know that helped boost the numbers.
If spiderman sold 6 mil in a day while selling it for 2 bucks, do you think im going to be impressed? No.
Assuming the worst? No, i just said its not impressive. If Sony did the same thing, I still wouldnt be impressed.It was going to hit 3 mil regardless. I know I would have bought it if I didn’t already have Gamepass.
We don’t know the spilt between Gamepass and retail. Once NPD comes out we can discuss this further.
Until then this is all conjecture and you are assuming the worst, when Ms told everyone to get Gamepass to play it early.
Who cares how MS gets games in Xbox gamer's hands. Whether it's $60, included in Gamepass, or even if MS decided to allowing every gamer to download it for free (even silver members), why do you care so much?People dont find it impressive cobsidering it was based on they were giving it away for 2 bucks.
We know that helped boost the numbers.
If spiderman sold 6 mil in a day while selling it for 2 bucks, do you think im going to be impressed? No.
Assuming the worst? No, i just said its not impressive. If Sony did the same thing, I still wouldnt be impressed.
You guys get offended if a person is not impressed and simply want more data.
Absolutely, forgot about the Darkness for a moment there...….I would also like to see a Conan 2007 remake, but yes give me Gears 2, 3 and Judgment remade like Gears 1 remake on PC......
Not just that, but we're talking across, XBOX and PC (MS Store and Steam)……...So at $1 dollar gamepass, that's 3 million, with gameshare even less, remember PC guys don't pay for online, SO MS is not profiting from LIVE subs there, so why play this on XBOX instead of PC? This is the most bonkers business model I've ever seen....Ever...
Wish MS would share this tbh. All the MS fans are saying gamepass is a success???? Only 3 million players, so that means if we minus gamesharing folk and those persons who actually purchased the game, we're probably looking at 1.5 million gamepass subs across the world at $1......What success...
Fortnight is a game that everybody and their grandma is playing, the game has a pull, it caters top a wide demographic, there's reason to play too as kids are competing for millions now NO? Comparing Fortnite to a dwindling Gears franchise is like comparing Superman to Mclovin…….
Yeah there are microtransactions, but what is the possibility of someone not buying the game @ $60 going on to spend tonnes of money in Micro transactions?....Gears multiplayer is no longer as good as it used to be, neither is it as popular, you don't own the game with gamepass, it will come off the service
eventually........Why would you spend all your money in Gears microtransactions? I think most people got gamepass for the Gears Campaign, I mean why not......
Gamepass will go like this, get a $1 or 2$ sub when a big AAA MS game is coming cancel it before it runs out so they don't charge you $14.99, rinse repeat......MS is not going to make anything from that....
Who cares how MS gets games in Xbox gamer's hands. Whether it's $60, included in Gamepass, or even if MS decided to allowing every gamer to download it for free (even silver members), why do you care so much?
If Sony wants to charge you $60 for every game they sell so they can balance game profits with their money losing TV division, and MS wants to give Xbox Gold Gamers GP Ultimate for $1 so they can get oodles of GP games and first party launches on day one, why not be happy for Xbox gamers for getting a good deal instead of whining and being jealous?
MS makes so many billions of dollars they don't even know what to do with it. They can't even spend it fast enough..... that's why 10 years ago or so they gave everyone a special $3 dividend just to eat up cash.
Jealous? I played Gears on my PC for 2 bucks, I love the deal.... Why would I be jealos?
See, XboxGAF doesnt like it when people point out the obvious. They want everything to be good news.
It doesnt work out that way.
I would love for Sony to release TLOU 2 on PSNow day one....
But that doesnt mean it would be good for business.
If they put it on there day one and announced 12 million in two days while giving 2 dollar subs, do you think im going to be impressed?
No.
Im going to say the exact same thing.
Its not impressive.
Wasnt even impressed when QD announced 1-2 million players for Detriot become human.
No one is jealous. You cant throw a fit when they're tired of MS' PR.
It was going to hit 3 mil regardless. I know I would have bought it if I didn’t already have Gamepass.
We don’t know the spilt between Gamepass and retail. Once NPD comes out we can discuss this further.
Until then this is all conjecture and you are assuming the worst, when Ms told everyone to get Gamepass to play it early.
With NBA no doubt it won’t take number 1. No game has before it. That is a suckers bet.I'll take a year ban bet with you that Gears will not be #1 on NPD.
With NBA no doubt it won’t take number 1. No game has before it. That is a suckers bet.
I might be willing to do something against Death Stranding though.