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[Stuart360]

Guys i doubt they mean 24tf, dont set your self up for dissapointment. If it really was 24tf, they would of mentioned it, trust me lol.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I never said anything about 24TF. I don't even know where anyone pulled that number from.
AFAIK the X is 6 TFLOPS, that's where I said if it is 4x more powerful in raw computing, then it's around 18 TFLOPS.

I bet it won’t even be that high either. Don’t set yourselves up for disappointment.

 

[Shin]

Memory might be 18 or 24 looking at the layout.
They blurred it out on purpose as 1 side is never being revealed in the video.

 

[MightySquirrel]

Just to clear things up. 4x was referenced for CPU perf. Which is a given.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

8k 120fps in fifa sure forza very possible

Stop posting now. You have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[scalman]

so less info then we know about ps5 . and they never said nothing about backward ... wow ... all show for nothing ... and where other consoles that will be slower for streaming ...

 

[mortal]

So much talk. Could've at least given more concrete info or some official specs.

 

[dottme]

Guys i doubt they mean 24tf, dont set your self up for dissapointment. If it really was 24tf, they would of mentioned it, trust me lol.

My understanding was that the CPU was 4x more powerful. Not the GPU.

 

[TheGreatYosh]

4 times as powerful as the Xbox One X.

In what metric though?

 

[CuNi]

What was with the guy saying something like, "With its SSD and the solid state drive?"

Noticed that immediately. Embarrassing.

He didn't say SSD and solid state drive, he said "The combination of the SoC and the Solid State Drive".

 

[Celcius]

4 times as powerful as xbox one x was the most interesting part to me.
It was cool to hear ssd confirmed.
They also mentioned real time hardware accelerated ray tracing and said that the processor was zen 2 but custom developed with AMD.

 

[Norse]

4 times as powerful as the Xbox One X.

Think that was the CPU.

 

[J4K]

Or rather aim for a framerate between 50-70 with VRR.

I would love that, but there aren't enough VRR enabled TVs out there for that to really be a thing.

My thinking is that MS will push for the next gen baseline to be 60FPS so that anyone's TV can experience that, with perhaps anything higher being variable where a nicer TV allows.

So, dude with a normal 4K screen gets a 60 FPS experience.

Dude with a VRR 4K TV gets a 60FPS+ experience.

 

[FStubbs]

so less info then we know about ps5 . and they never said nothing about backward ... wow ... all show for nothing ... and where other consoles that will be slower for streaming ...

Like Sony, they'd actually have to actively try to not have BC next gen since the architecture is the same. And MS has been better than the others about trying to have BC the last couple of gens.

I think you can rest easy, Scarlet will be BC.

 

[Achillias]

My 4K OLED needs to get replaced if they are truly going to support 8K AAA gaming .

 

[DragoonKain]

How big of an SSD? Can’t be 500 gb, it would fill up way too quick. I’ll say 2tb at least, which is gonna make this console very expensive combinging storage with the specs.

 

[onnextflix5]

Also halo looked looked current gen. I think everyone will be disappointed with both ps5 and xbox 5.

 

[RedVIper]

"The combination of the SSD and the solid state drive are really what gives you a totally new experience."

Am I missing something or is this the dumbest statement ever?

 

[metareferential]

8k 120fps in fifa sure forza very possible but massive open world games I highly doubt it.

I'll wait for digital foundry to prove if its capable

When Sony and Ms say 8k they just mean it's capable of outputting a signal at 8k, as per hdmi 2.1 spec.

 

[Codes 208]

Guys i doubt they mean 24tf, dont set your self up for dissapointment. If it really was 24tf, they would of mentioned it, trust me lol.

They made it sound like this includes the overall processing power from the bandwidth as well as the cpu so i personally dont expect 24tflops but instead a marginal increase in the cpu

 

[nani17]

Stop posting now. You have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[Shangounchained]

The next-generation Xbox, dubbed “Project Scarlett,” will launch in holiday 2020, Microsoft announced during its E3 2019 press conference.

Introducing Project Scarlett. Unmatched power and speed ushers in a new level of game play performance and the future of gaming. With four generations of content that looks and feels unlike anything before. Launching with Halo Infinite Holiday 2020.

Pure idiots, "load times" "load times" "load times" we don't care about load times we simply need more ram, more power bigger worlds more physics better animations we don't need a Xbox one that loads faster or a Xbox one with 120fps who gave them that idea.

 

[Evilms]

How much more efficient is the navi architecture than the polaris architecture? because 4 times the X does not mean 24 tflops, knowing that the X is based on the polarized architecture which is very weak.

 

[Clear]

Sony did the right thing and just let Cerny talk about specs casually, do MS honestly think another over-produced and horribly corporate video gets the message across better?

 

[Armorian]

Sony did the right thing and just let Cerny talk about specs casually, do MS honestly think another over-produced and horribly corporate video gets the message across better?

Video was all about diversity.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Maybe we should chill with the 8k 120fps talk?

 

[onQ123]

12TF fp32 & 24TF fp16

 

[Vlightray]

Sounds great but we want receipts!!!

 

[T-Cake]

"The combination of the SSD and the solid state drive are really what gives you a totally new experience."

Am I missing something or is this the dumbest statement ever?

You misheard. He said SoC (System on Chip) not SSD.

 

[nikolino840]

Pure idiots, "load times" "load times" "load times" we don't care about load times we simply need more ram, more power bigger worlds more physics better animations we don't need a Xbox one that loads faster or a Xbox one with 120fps who gave them that idea.

Sony with the presentation about spiderman loading time about 0.8

 

[angelic]

The corporate hardware vid was like a scientology induction.

 

[CuNi]

Also halo looked looked current gen. I think everyone will be disappointed with both ps5 and xbox 5.

I rather think people need to take a reality check and need to start to realize that game's won't suddenly hit photorealism or any other big graphical leap anytime soon, especially with ray tracing in its early shoes.
Most computing power will go to more draw calls so the worlds look more paket, like 200 trees instead of 20, physics/AI and maybe finally hitting constant 60 FPS. Also a huge chunk of computing power goes to our new hype 4k and as show, next gen consoles will swallow even more power when tech giants decide that we humans need 8k TV's and game consoles. Huge Graphical leaps are over until we get a big breakthrough with RT and manage to get that into cheap small chips so consoles can benefit from that too and we stop jumping upwards the resolution scale. We gotta stop someday man. I barely have content for my 4k TV and I don't see that one increasing outside of the next consoles. Heck, national TV still sends in 480p and some very few in 720p in here.

 

[Evilms]

 

[Stuart360]

Also halo looked looked current gen. I think everyone will be disappointed with both ps5 and xbox 5.

I have already said there will be a lot of Xbox 5/PS5 games that look like current gen games at 4k, thats just the price of 4k. Now add in ray tracing, and that becomes even more of a reality.
Having said that, i thought the Halo part looked very good, very clean looking. Its hard to judge really without seeing actual gameplay.

 

[jonnyp]

How big of an SSD? Can’t be 500 gb, it would fill up way too quick. I’ll say 2tb at least, which is gonna make this console very expensive combinging storage with the specs.

They said they will use the SSD as a sort of virtual RAM. My guess is it is going to be smaller than 500GB, (maybe 2x 128GB PCIE 4.0 in RAID 1?) - probably enough to fit most commonly used game data for a few games only. All games will be installed onto a regular mechanical HDD and use the SSD as cache/virtual RAM when playing is my bet.

And people who think they meant 4x more powerful = 24 TFLOPs are going to be severely disappointed.

 

[KlickKlack]

Aside from then saying GDDR6 and hardware based ray tracing, we learned nothing.

are you under shock?
they developed new ssd tech.... said the engineer and 4x the processing power of the X.
most people was thinking it will be ca. 12TF.
Its 100% more.... i think above 18TF.

and HARDWARE RAYTRACING
that megaton..

sony has telling nothing about power and RT... sony 8TF ps5 is not really next gen ist more a streaming box for stadia... lol.


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[Ol'Scratch]

The op is missing some serious quotation marks around the hype statement.

 

[Shangounchained]

Sony with the presentation about spiderman loading time about 0.8

It's the same shit, I have a feeling next gen consoles will simply be hot air.

 

[Achillias]

Talking out of his arse just to be "popular". With his rumors "said" nonsense. Nobody knows and he especially sure doesn't.

 

[Kittehkraken]

For the record:

It takes TWO RTX 2080 TI's for 8k 60fps on PC.

 

[Shangounchained]

Basically the 8k and 120 FPS they are talking about is based on current games im not sure it'll run scarlet or next gen games at 120 FPS

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Is it possible that sony announced the specs of the xbox scarlet and not the PS5?


Sony "we know what you have but you don't know what we have"

Like, the ultimate troll?

 

[Stuart360]

For the record:

It takes TWO RTX 2080 TI's for 8k 60fps on PC.

There are not going to be any 8k games next gen, outside of the odd 2D Indie game, or possibly the odd 360/PS3 remaster. Same with 120fps.

 

[Shangounchained]

For the record:

It takes TWO RTX 2080 TI's for 8k 60fps on PC.

Consoles aren't pcs

 

[ethomaz]

8k 120fps is the specs supported by HDMI 2.1 that both consoles will be certified.

You have the option to output that but really games won’t.

 

[shark sandwich]

No way in hell the GPU is 4x the Flops of X1X. Pretty sure they’re talking about the CPU performance only.

 

[scydrex]

I think the 4x is the CPU too... MS said the same things Cerny said Zen 2, Navi and SSD.... nothing more than we expected. I did not see any point of telling these stuff at the E3 and that video...

 

[Kittehkraken]

Consoles aren't pcs

 

[KlickKlack]

Just to clear things up. 4x was referenced for CPU perf. Which is a given.

not true... they said CLEAR:
PROCESSING POWER [means power OUTPUT of the console]
and not:
processor power

Funny how this trolls try to downplay the power of the scarlett.

 

[quickwhips]

Ray tracing hardware is only thing we learned?