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[PaleFolklore]

I don't know how much I want to play this given the current political climate. Hits a bit too close to home

 

[Mett]

I'm digging the trailer, I'm ready to jump in and help out the citizens of Hope County from this religious cult!

 

[Double Donut]

Looks awesome, but February? God damn that's a long wait.

 

[The Greek Freak]

I'm kind of bummed out that they aren't hyper-conservative christians.

Yup, my interest for this game has plummeted.

Still more interesting than the last FC game but my hype was out of control when I thought we were going to murder the Christian Taliban that so many in our country want to be in control.

 

[NullPointer]

Far Cry: Cultlands

Cult Recon: Montana

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.

Religion can be used as a tool, in different ways for different purposes. I highly doubt there's a gaffer who doesn't get that Jesus preached love and understanding and not hate.

 

[The Jazz Cabbage Master]

Looks and sounds really cool.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I really think it's a missed opportunity that it's not releasing this fall.

So far there isn't any big blockbusters releasing this fall besides CoD, Destiny and Star wars.

Assassins Creed is. I still think Bethesda might release something, a new ip by them would count as big I think. Maybe Crackdown 3 or Spiderman on the first party side, I'm not sure if either will be blockbuster territory. Other than that, probably not, usual suspects.

 

[Alebrije]

I'm arguing for them to have the setting make LOGICAL sense within their own game world.

Playing as a cop, you see a group of people going around killing random people, hauling them off, kidnapping them, you would NOT go John T. Rambo on them and team up with local "hillbillies," You'd be calling the ATF and getting legit trained professionals to help put an end to it.

It takes you out of the setting if they simply ignore logical things and sweep it under the rug, thus hurting the immersion and entire point of that setting int he first place.

I'm not saying the actual gameplay has to be realistic, but the story/setting and having the characters act logically is what can help sell the story to the player.

Also if you read any of the links you provided it clearly states that the "group" wasn't going around doing violence, rather it was single people and they almost always got ARRESTED for doing said things.

Imagine if the entire group was going out, in the open, in a city and attacking/kidnapping people, taking over an entire towns do you think the government is going to IGNORE that or just have some lone ranger sheriff fight them? No, that's the entire point of having the ATF and similar agencies...As a cop you wouldn't SEE that kind of thing happening and then go "whelp, I should make friends with the local hillbilly groups and turn them to fight this group, I should definitely NOT call for help....

Agree, you do not go Rambo mode , you just pet 20 Bears and 30 wolves and confront the enemy.

 

[Pedrito]

I'm kind of bummed out that they aren't hyper-conservative christians.

It's primarily made by godless french-canadian liberals. I'm sure there will be plenty of digs against hyper-conservative christians even if it's not the main plot point.

 

[BigEmil]

Glad they didn't rush it to fit it in the Q4 space everyone wants to do for that nice big sales boost in christmas, boxing day, black friday sales etc

 

[NullPointer]

Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.

Dear Lord

 

[Don Draper's Hat]

Is that Naomi Kyle?

 

[Chaplain]

Didn't stop the crusades

Agreed. 2000 years of church history is full of example of people claiming to follow Jesus, but contradicting that claim by not loving their neighbors as themselves. This is probably one of many reasons all that the New Testament writers warn Christians that even they can deceive themselves, and why Jesus warned His followers that God hates hypocrisy.

"God hates hypocrisy. He is especially outraged by religious hypocrisy, when religion itself is used as a cover. And God is never deceived. He is angry, Isaiah declared, "Because this people draw near with their words And honor me with their lip service, But they remove their hearts far from Me" (Is 29: 13). It is this radical critique of the Jewish Scriptures that Jesus sharpened even further. He used a straightforward and descriptive word that was the Greek word for ”acting or playing a part on a stage," but gave it the explosively charged moral meaning that it has had in the Western world ever since— thanks to him. Jesus opened his withering fire on three kinds of hypocrisy. The first is the hypocrisy of pretense, when we put up the front of being better than we really are. ("So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and the streets, so that they may be honored by men" [Mt 6:2].) The second is the hypocrisy of blame and judgmentalism, when we criticize others despite moral faults of our own. ("Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" [Mt 7:3].) And the third is the hypocrisy of inconsistency, when we lay down moral requirements for others that we do not apply to ourselves. ("But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in themselves" [Mt 23:13].)" (Os Guinness, Guest Scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center and a Visiting Fellow at the Brookings Institution)

"Man's love of truth is such that when he loves something which is not the truth, he pretends to himself that what he loves is the truth, and because he hates to be proved wrong, he will not allow himself to be convinced that he is deceiving himself. So he hates the real truth for what he takes to his heart in its place." (Saint Augustine)

 

[NullPointer]

Agreed. 2000 years of church history is full of example of people claiming to follow Jesus, but contradicting that claim by not loving their neighbors as themselves.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?

 

[Budi]

Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I got my fill of far cry with the 3rd one really. bear skinning camp clearing badass one minute, only to be neutered by a cutscene for the story.

 

[Fredrik]

I don't know how much I want to play this given the current political climate. Hits a bit too close to home

Yeah this is me too. While I can't relate to cultisism I live in a secularised country with an old foundation in christianity, with so many immigrants from muslim countries and the recent terror attacks all over the world the whole climate regarding religions of any kind has gone toxic, especially among younger people which are often uninformed and hateful and way too fast to find a scapegoat. I'm not sure I want to play a game with religious cultisism as a theme right now. :/

 

[Shake Appeal]

Is that a black guy in this dude's congregation? I mean, I know video games aren't usually very realistic, but come on.

What's unrealistic is there being a black guy in Montana at all. Like less than half of one percent of the population there is black.

 

[Gnome Scat]

Sounds fantastic, really looking forward to this one.

 

[Tareskog]

I think this is the most interesting Far Cry has looked since Far Cry 3. Looking forward to it, and really hope they do some tweaking to the "ubisoft formula". A bit more linear story wouldn't hurt imo, though I do embrace the open world.... If you know what I mean?

Still no pre order, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

[Jhn]

Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.

According to your own definition of "Christian" and your own definition of "evil", sure.

But there are obviously people who do evil shit and call themselves Christian, regardless of your no-true-scotsman outlook.

 

[blame space]

Hell yeah

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Can't wait.

 

[Chris_Rivera]

Erasing an entire people from their land would causes even more of a backlash

It's not a history book, it's fictional entertainment. How that is erasing an entire people, only the hyperbole driven gamer can imagine. Besides the entirety of North America belonged to Native Americans, not just Montana.

 

[Backlogger]

The co-op mode sounds awesome. The game looks great. Love the setting.

Not sure why everyone is wanting and hoping for it to drive some kind of political narrative against American Christian Conservatives. As an American, Christian and small "c" Conservative I'm looking forward to exacting justice against fundamentalists. Also, its a game, its fiction, and every "group" has bad players. Nothing about this game makes me upset.

 

[Psychoward]

Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.

Deus vult!

 

[Tohsaka]

Looks interesting, was hoping it'd be out this year though.

 

[wiibomb]

these versions of the trailers aren't censored, I think they should be posted on OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZs9WfyHIG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwSJaHUNAtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcXZxugWqUQ

 

[John Rabbit]

The premise is a stretch

How so?

 

[____]

Never played a FarCry game, but after playing Wildlands, I'm in for the co-op and open world.

 

[Fredrik]

The co-op mode sounds awesome. The game looks great. Love the setting.

Not sure why everyone is wanting and hoping for it to drive some kind of political narrative against American Christian Conservatives. As an American, Christian and small "c" Conservative I'm looking forward to exacting justice against fundamentalists. Also, its a game, its fiction, and every "group" has bad players. Nothing about this game makes me upset.

I tried to explain it above. I'm not afraid of religions, I know that one evil queen can make a whole hive of otherwise calm bumble bees aggressive, (Seen it myself), it's just that religious cultisism is too close to what we're dealing with in real life right now with the terror attacks and aggression toward religions in general because of that. It's just not a theme I'm particularly interested in for entertainment right now.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

these versions of the trailers aren't censored, I think they should be posted on OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZs9WfyHIG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwSJaHUNAtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcXZxugWqUQ

Ironic that videos about a game set in America, aren't available to Americans. Blasphemy.

 

[Psychoward]

Ironic that videos about a game set in America, aren't available to Americans. Blasphemy.

can show various murders and torture but heaven forbid they utter a curse word in a video that's age-gated

 

[Leafhopper]

Christian ISIS oxymoron because Christ forbid any evil (i.e., dehumanizing any person made in God's Image) done in his name.

Stick to analyzing games.

 

[MikeBison]

Yeah this is me too. While I can't relate to cultisism I live in a secularised country with an old foundation in christianity, with so many immigrants from muslim countries and the recent terror attacks all over the world the whole climate regarding religions of any kind has gone toxic, especially among younger people which are often uninformed and hateful and way too fast to find a scapegoat. I'm not sure I want to play a game with religious cultisism as a theme right now. :/

What the fuck has there being Muslim immagrants in your country got to do with anything?

 

[dreamfall]

I'm really liking what I'm seeing. Far Cry 2 is still my favorite entry in the franchise, and the greater the emphasis on moment to moment encounters/good mission design rather than bloated side activities/towers/shitty narrative, the better. I hope we get to pick the gender/color of our main protagonist, maybe have different voice overs for each. I want the game to concentrate mainly on destroying the cult family members in depth, rather than a personal quest of revenge.

 

[-MD-]

2 player coop? I might actually play this one.

 

[Screaming Meat]

Imagine if the entire group was going out, in the open, in a city and attacking/kidnapping people, taking over an entire towns do you think the government is going to IGNORE that or just have some lone ranger sheriff fight them? No, that's the entire point of having the ATF and similar agencies...As a cop you wouldn't SEE that kind of thing happening and then go "whelp, I should make friends with the local hillbilly groups and turn them to fight this group, I should definitely NOT call for help....

I assume is more of an Action Movie 'logic' than anything real, but I haven't played it yet so I can't be certain.

Do you know how the MC gets mixed up in all this? You seem pretty certain about everything.

 

[Jocund]

I hope we get to pick the gender/color of our main protagonist, maybe have different voice overs for each. I want the game to concentrate mainly on destroying the cult family members in depth, rather than a personal quest of revenge.

You're in luck! This is a confirmed feature.

 

[dreamfall]

You're in luck! This is a confirmed feature.

Just read the Kotaku article, this is awesome. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Quadraphonic]

What's unrealistic is there being a black guy in Montana at all. Like less than half of one percent of the population there is black.

You aren't joking.

http://censusviewer.com/state/MT

Jesus Christ...

 

[blame space]

It looks soooo good

 

[StanleyStutters]

Kind of reminds me of Justified crossed with Far Cry.

Sold!

Haven't seen the trailers yet, but the setting has me very interested.

 

[t hicks]

Fuck this looks amazing, I'm so in

 

[mcz117chief]

OMG OMG OMG

OMG OMG OMG

I called it (almost) and my prayers were answered, thank you the most High God Jesus Christ!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=237964422&postcount=1265


DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jerome Jeffries is my man! Fell in love in a microsecond!

 

[Toa TAK]

You aren't joking.

http://censusviewer.com/state/MT

Jesus Christ...

lol maybe he's THE Black Guy™

Dude is easily the coolest of the bunch so far.

 

[Fredrik]

What the fuck has there being Muslim immagrants in your country got to do with anything?

This is in Sweden, I could write a lot about it but in short now, uninformed hateful people basically blame immigrants and the open borders we had earlier for many problems we're facing right now, including the terror attack in Stockholm awhile ago, it's not something that is said openly because of a certain big political party that is negative toward immigrants and people don't want to take their side openly but you hear it all the time outside of the media. It may not be logical but as usual religion in general gets attacked for being a cause for many problems instead of the evil people who's using religion to gather people to help them with their evil plans. To each their own I guess but religious extremism is not a great theme for entertainment right now imo.

 

[MikeBison]

This is in Sweden, I could write a lot about it but in short now, uninformed hateful people basically blame immigrants and the open borders we had earlier for many problems we're facing right now, including the terror attack in Stockholm awhile ago, it's not something that is said openly because of a certain big political party that is negative toward immigrants and people don't want to take their side openly but you hear it all the time outside of the media. It may not be logical but as usual religion in general gets attacked for being a cause for many problems instead of the evil people who's using religion to gather people to help them with their evil plans. To each their own I guess but religious extremism is not a great theme for entertainment right now imo.

I live in England, so I hear the same diatribe. But I still fail to see what this has to do with far cry 5 other than a religious cult = religion = Muslim?

I don't know.

 

[dlauv]

Someone was just asking the other day on Off-Topic side about why American towns run by cults -- the ones the government doesn't mess with -- aren't the subject of more video games. I wondered that too.