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Are Souls games too hard? Completion trophy percentages say "no"

Lork

Member
Lol multiple post that soundly refute my arguments? You suggested that it would "literally be impossible" to implement an easy mode in a ds game. My original post suggested that people against such a mode should stop worrying about how other people play the game...not one argument against my suggested easy mode has resolved this fact..or demonstrated to me how it would "literally be impossible".like i said in the majority of circumstances, those against an easy mode in DS games worry way tooo much about how other people play a game and all the arguments against an easy mode only reaffirm this position.
No, I didn't suggest that. You picked up on some of the words I used, but the actual meaning of what I said seems to have completely passed you by.

Allow me to help:

it would literally be impossible for an easy mode not to have an effect on the standard gameplay experience for multiple reasons.

I even reiterated it in the same short post:
it's not possible to implement without sacrificing some things.

Given how poor your grasp of what I wrote is, I wouldn't put too much stock in your ability to assess whether other posts "reaffirm your position" or not, if I were you.
 

coljae

Member
Summoning isn't even the only thing. If you grind and farm in Souls games, you can literally just level up to the point where you become OP and just brute force your way to victory. The game is challenging but if you're dedicated, you can beat them all. I Platinumed all of them except for Demon's cuz fuck that Pure Bladestone.

I second this. I rate myself as an average skilled player and a poor souls player. Currently playing through bloodborne trying to get the Platinum and I'm on NG++. I've summoned, cheesed and occasionally skilled my way but have mostly put the grind in to get to this point.
 
No, I didn't suggest that. You picked up on some of the words I used, but the actual meaning of what I said seems to have completely passed you by.

Allow me to help:



I even reiterated it in the same short post:


Given how poor your grasp of what I wrote is, I wouldn't put too much stock in your ability to assess whether other posts "reaffirm your position" or not, if I were you.


Again youve done nothing to address how the easy mode i described would impact the default game in anyway, youve basically just resorted to ad hominem attacks at this point and yet you claim there is a "difficulty defense force" when your the one who clearly has more invested in this then anybody else.
 
I really don't buy the idea that Dark Souls 3 selling well rules out self-selection bias. You're essentially saying at that point that a playerbase has to be represenative of the gaming population solely cause it's large which doesn't seem like a strong argument to me.

Regardless, I do agree that there's no need to make Soulsborne easier in the hopes of making it accessible. It's clearly made with a vision in mind first and foremost.
 

KLoWn

Member
I'm pretty sure that the only people saying/thinking that the Soulsborne games are impossibly hard are the people who actually haven't even played the games and are just going off their very exaggerated reputation.
 
I'm pretty sure that the only people saying/thinking that the Soulsborne games are impossibly hard are the people who actually haven't even played the games and are just going off their very exaggerated reputation.

Where does that reputation come from in the first place if not from people who've played the games?

Haven't played the Soulsborne games so can't comment on their difficulty, but most games with a reputation for being difficult (Contra, Castlevania, Ikaruga and so on) will still have people subtle-bragging on the internet that they're "not that hard", which, if anything probably undersells their difficulty. This is especially true on NeoGaf, which markets itself as a hardcore gamers forum, so the skills of the average poster on here are going to be far greater than the average player in general.

In my experience, a game that's "not that hard" for posters on here is usually still going to be beyond the skill of most of the player pool.
 
The trophies seem to indicate that if you buy a souls game, you're probably the sort of person that wants to complete a souls game.

Hmmm, not always true. I bought Dark Souls cuz of the hype. I hated it and sold it and didn't touch another Souls game until 3 came out.
 
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