Samurai G0SU
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I hope so. Maybe this is a hint that they will update the dash with Project Neon.
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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
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I hope so. Maybe this is a hint that they will update the dash with Project Neon.
Cheevoman, post if you're okay.
SenjutsuSage
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Sheeet just finally getting to go through all the stuff. I wasn't expecting this many articles. I literally did as I said I would and CTRL + F to check for zen lol. Alas not in there, but so far sounding like a complete beast. Mandatory options for all gamers regardless of, I believe, TV etc is also a positive thing.
I'm loving all the detail. Seems like they really did a lot of work on this thing. That GPU is almost certainly sounding like it could be Vega (although not done reading everything), but so far I'm surprised I see no dig down on that info. I'm guessing they can't give us more on that till Vega is actually out or something?
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing!
BTW I made bets with folks. So PM me with what the terms of those bets were, and I will make good today. I don't go back on my word. That's my Ninja Way!
Links would make it easier
I'm loving all the detail. Seems like they really did a lot of work on this thing. That GPU is almost certainly sounding like it could be Vega (although not done reading everything), but so far I'm surprised I see no dig down on that info. I'm guessing they can't give us more on that till Vega is actually out or something?
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing!
BTW I made bets with folks. So PM me with what the terms of those bets were, and I will make good today. I don't go back on my word. That's my Ninja Way!
Links would make it easier
Papacheeks
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What I and many other's have been saying for a long time.
To me software matter more than anything.
RoyalLaFlame
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I find this really interesting. Well thought.
Kibbles
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Honestly I don't see this anything besides $400-$450
WhiskerFrisker
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Sony just has marketing rights. There is nothing stopping Dice from optimizing Battlefront to be a showcase on the Scorpio.Ah goddamn it.
Well let's at least hope they take advantage of the extra memory though.
GPU is Polaris based fam.
Papacheeks
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Are your fucking serious?
Just stop while your ahead dude, you were wrong on your assumptions on zen, and your totally wrong on vega.
He was never ok in the first place
hanspampel
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don't worry man. Scorpio will launch 9 months later in Tier2 territories, too
Vic_Viper
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I get that but to the average customer the "specs" don't mean anything without some sort of visual aid. Let me be clear, I've been waiting to buy an Xbox until this is out, so I'm not here to grief. just wondering where are the games!
Omnistalgic
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hmm...this just makes me wish Sony waited and made Pro more beefy for my inevitable 4K purchase. Sounds like Xbox Super Pro tbh...very nice custom hardware, but I'm not into the ecosystem currently and better hardware doesn't exactly help that.
Good for the tech heads though and DF was a great source to get this ball rolling. I think Xbox really needs a super strong E3.
Good for the tech heads though and DF was a great source to get this ball rolling. I think Xbox really needs a super strong E3.
SEGAvangelist
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Sheeet just finally getting to go through all the stuff. I wasn't expecting this many articles. I literally did as I said I would and CTRL + F to check for zen lol. Alas not in there, but so far sounding like a complete beast. Mandatory options for all gamers regardless of, I believe, TV etc is also a positive thing.
I'm loving all the detail. Seems like they really did a lot of work on this thing. That GPU is almost certainly sounding like it could be Vega (although not done reading everything), but so far I'm surprised I see no dig down on that info. I'm guessing they can't give us more on that till Vega is actually out or something?
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing!
BTW I made bets with folks. So PM me with what the terms of those bets were, and I will make good today. I don't go back on my word. That's my Ninja Way!
Leadbetter said it was Polaris in the video.
LordOcidax
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Not funny.. I was expecting Rysenso cpu is:
.Latvian Hitman
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Savage.
statham
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all of them are 60fps.
Kssio_Aug
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People talking about games... really? That's a valid concern, but absolutely no one in the right mind was expecting this to be an E3-like event where MS would announce Scorpio together with a bunch of new games and some other news. Everyone knew this was about Scorpio specs, and the fact that Digital Foundry would do the reveal makes everything even more obvious.
I do hope MS has some good amount of new games to reveal. But I won't expect shit about it before E3.
I do hope MS has some good amount of new games to reveal. But I won't expect shit about it before E3.
SenjutsuSage
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No, and no again. I'm still reading everything. Where does it confirm that it's Polaris, and not Vega? I have no problem admitting as much, but please show me where it has been confirmed. Not too difficult a request.
Oh wow, then I stand corrected if so. Link plz
ultrazilla
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Khalifa Jayy
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Yea, like you, I know some of those words too 😁
Papacheeks
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No, and no again. I'm still reading everything. Where does it confirm that it's Polaris, and not Vega? I have no problem admitting as much, but please show me where it has been confirmed. Not too difficult a request.
Watch the fucking video where they clearly state Polaris. Which is the same as PS4 PRO but this looks like it's more based on thew new rx 580 refresh possibly which is still Polaris.
thelastword
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You know what, I'm really surprised some of you guys are surprised? Forza 6 Apex run at 4k 60fps on a Stock RX 480 at Ultra settings, not all games running 4k demands a 12TF GPU....
Gears, Halo Forge, can all run at 4k on a RX480....So will Killer Instinct.....There's nothing surprising that the Scorpio could run these games native.....Not all games are as demanding as Deus Ex, Quantum Break or the Division....in some instances not properly optimized.
Complicated
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Would be cheaper than I expected. I'm still saying it's $500. People always lowball estimates and end up disappointed.
You seem upset.
The part about this console being the first time ever the team was able to use profiling tools to measure bottlenecks and understand performance issues which directly fed into the creation of new Xbox hardware was a nice bit of inside info, truly built with software in mind not the other way round, this type of info would come off as PR if it was Spencer/Yusef, i just love Richards enthusiasm, if he;s hyped about it then im sure it must be worth noting.
Would be good to get a breakdown on the original spec sheet they spoke of earlier in the year compared to this.
Would be good to get a breakdown on the original spec sheet they spoke of earlier in the year compared to this.
Obliterator
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I honestly have no idea.
Okami Haundo
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Oh damn. That bodes quite well then! Been too long since I played through the campaigns.
Vic_Viper
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Didn't need to be E3 levels obviously. But they didn't even show what we can expect games to look like on this new hardware. Look at how Sony showed off the Pro. The Forza screenshot was nice, but give us some footage of it and compare it to the XBone version. at least give us a time when we can see them.
That's what more flashy events like E3 or Gamescom are for. Today's reveals are meant for enthusiasts who are interested in this kind of stuff.
GodfatherX
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Like how scorpio is over 3x the tflops as xbox one, with more then double the ram, with a theoretical 50% increase on dx12 instructions on top of the 33% increase in CPU clock speed. If your issue is jaguar that's fine but the point remains, everything spencer/Microsoft has been saying is we are beyond console generations now and these "upgrades" are what we can expect going forward. I'm not really sure what your arguing here
SEGAvangelist
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EDIT: Read more of his tweets... I just don't get why people talk about stuff like this when they don't have a clue what it is...
That's hilarious
blame space
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For the love of God can anyone clarify whether or not 6tf is good?
The current dash uses 3GB and the one for scorpio uses 4K assets, once you put it in context its not overkill at all.
This is how I see it.
That car anology was off because they didnt take out the entire engine. What they did was modify that engine.
If you modify an engine, the only way it becomes an entirely different engine is if you modify it so much its a whole new engine.
You take an engine out of a car and what you have left is basically a shell.
LordOcidax
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I reality Yes.. for Native 4k No.
I think the biggest surprise is the new DirectX hardware, they way it was described it seems very impressive. It really is a DirectX-box now! Also the sheer amount of headroom leftover from a no effort port seems far and above anything that people were expecting. The common sentiment was that it might be able to hit 4k on existing XB1 titles with little to no power leftover. having 30%+ more to work with on top of having the best possible resolution means we are gonna see some great work the next few years.
It sounds like they are working to make the existing library all work at 4k. I cannot wait to pick up a new set and this as soon as possible.
I love how 4 years ago one of the most common sentiments was picking up a PS4 because of playing the multiplats on the best system, and how exclusives didn't matter. fascinating how these general sentiments pulled a hard 180, wonder why. I also wonder if sony starts putting in parity clauses if all the people who spoke out so strongly against the policy will do so now. Interesting times ahead for sure.
Overall I think the specs are really impressive. If what DF said is true, it looks like MS has taken several novel approaches to console design. I look forward to playing a ton of great games at native 4k resolution.
It sounds like they are working to make the existing library all work at 4k. I cannot wait to pick up a new set and this as soon as possible.
I love how 4 years ago one of the most common sentiments was picking up a PS4 because of playing the multiplats on the best system, and how exclusives didn't matter. fascinating how these general sentiments pulled a hard 180, wonder why. I also wonder if sony starts putting in parity clauses if all the people who spoke out so strongly against the policy will do so now. Interesting times ahead for sure.
Overall I think the specs are really impressive. If what DF said is true, it looks like MS has taken several novel approaches to console design. I look forward to playing a ton of great games at native 4k resolution.
Like mentioned in the actual article, 6TF on the Scorpio will likely be better than an equivalent PC expansion card because of the ability to optimize with dev tools. Which is typically the case with consoles.
No, and no again. I'm still reading everything. Where does it confirm that it's Polaris, and not Vega? I have no problem admitting as much, but please show me where it has been confirmed. Not too difficult a request.
Oh wow, then I stand corrected if so. Link plz
https://youtu.be/RE2hNrq1Zxs?t=703
wesleyshark
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But it is more like an X1 Pro than "the Next Xbox". Mainly because it has a compatibility handcuff to the X1. I don't think he was disregarding all the specs; it's more that it's simply graphical upgrades with game design still needing to be geared to the last generation.
I am impressed with some of the things MS put into this thing, but at the end of the day it's best analog is to a more beefy PS4 Pro.