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Nvidia plans to lock Game Ready drivers behind GeForce Experience registration

derExperte

Member
Wasn't there some mouse driver which forced you to register and be online to get at some features? Afair they later backed down an removed that nonsense.
 
WTF, I uninstalled GFE because I got tired of disabling shadow play after every install/update and I didn't like or use any of the features that it offers. This is bullshit.
 

-Gozer-

Member
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I have never installed GFE. It has always sounded completely unnecessary for myself.

Someone mentioned you can't even do a clean driver install with GFE. Is that actually true?
 

Bebpo

Banned
I need rollbacks. GFE doesn't give that option. Nvidia's website does.

For instance, I was playing Bioshock 2 Minerva's Den last week when midway I decided to update to the latest Nvidia drivers. Suddenly I started getting major graphical glitching everywhere, the kind you expect when your GPU dies. Made the game completely unplayable. I tried other games and they were fine so it didn't seem like the GPU was dying. Rolled back to the previous driver and Bioshock 2 ran fine again with no glitches.

Getting rid of the ability to just rollback to the previous driver is a bad, bad, bad idea with so many games out their that all interact slightly differently with every driver set.
 

MetalSlug

Member
"Unable to start NVIDIA Update Service due to 'Error HRESULT E_FAIL has been returned from a call to a COM component.' GeForce Experience must close."

That's all I get whenever I try to open Geforce Experience :(
 

Kayant

Member
Fucking stupid.... those companies some times. Hopefully sites like Guru3d with be able to extract the installer and host it that's if Nvidia don't chase them.

Such having Keepass is great and makes this a non issue but really I don't want to have to register for more unneeded accounts with the way security is getting compromised these days.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
hahaha....what are you going to do? Buy an AMD card from a company that has paltry driver support and is diving off the end of the earth?

We are fucked
Hahaha yes. I could barely play Battlefront due to the poor drivers, haha!
 

120v

Member
Not particularly a fan of geforce experience and this sets a bad precedent... but meh... I guess? Figured everything would get consolidated under it at one point or another
 
This is unbelievably stupid.

They have to go back on this idea right? The whole world is about to tell them how stupid it is.

Are people going to sell their cards and pick up AMD cards over this? No, they will get away with it because there is barely any competition.

Also, I would say most people don't update their drivers that much so the 4 times a year updates sounds about right.
 

AwesomeMeat

PossumMeat
I didn't know that you could the game ready drivers without the geforce experience stuff.... so I guess I don't really care. As someone who came from an AMD card prior to my GTX970 - I'm just thrilled drivers get updated at all.
 

Ogimachi

Member
Guru3D has had "leaks" and several mirrors for years, for example. What are they going to do? Shut them down? Add DRM to drivers? Force online connection to GeForce Experience or it won't install? Are going to need fucking cracks to install drivers without it?

This is either a misunderstanding or it will backfire pretty badly.
 

MNC

Member
There will be third parties. If not... The principle is enough for me to go to AMD if they go through with this.
 

Caayn

Member
I hate nVidia software. The Experience is useless to me and only serves to hurt performance while the driver panel itself has always run horribly on every machine I've built with an nVidia card. Why is it still so laggy? I hate using it.
Same experience here. I expected superb drivers and software when I bought an NVIDIA GPU, what I got was good drivers, shitty UI software that even a junior programmer can do better and settings (even SLI) that keep getting reset after a driver update no matter how I install the update.
You guys will buy nvidia card anyway.. what's the issue here.
I won't. The GTX9XX series are the first NVIDIA GPUs that I've used in my own PCs. Before that I've always used AMD and never had a problem with them. It was more due to curiosity that I switched to NVIDIA for this upgrade.
 

DansDans

Member
Their drivers are so good Dead Rising 3 still crashes to desktop after 15 minutes. When does my GeForce Experience get better Nvidia?
 

ClearData

Member
I was setting my Nividia card up with Linux and had to grab some drivers off Nvidia's website. Geforce Experience wasn't compatible with my operating system. So what happens then? Am I locked out of driver updates if I don't have a registered version of GE on my machine? Because that would be utter bullshit.

If Nvidia keeps getting hostile I am going to switch over to AMD. I wouldn't mind at all.
 

Kvik

Member
Ongoing list of dumb decisions, 2015.

- Squeenix DXMD preorder scheme (since retracted)
- Konami offline FOB tax
- Nvidia GameReady drivers locked behind GFE.

Nvidia's reasoning is also flimsy as hell. I have never installed GFE, not I have plan to.
 
wait, so you can't even download drivers through the website anymore, it has to be through geforce experience? what the shit, i've had to grab the manual driver on their website so many times when their shitty client would error out or just take hours extra for no real reason.
 
Nobody wants your bloatware so now you want to force it upon them. GeForce Experience has always given me issues, I just want to download your driver and install it, there's no reason to change that and make it more frustrating, christ. I'm actually upgrading my GPU in November and may just get AMD instead.
 

Stevey

Member
I'm really not seeing the problem.
Install GFE.
Register email address, takes like 30 seconds, did it earlier.
Download and install driver.
Close GFE.
 
I'm really not seeing the problem.
Install GFE.
Register email address, takes like 30 seconds, did it earlier.
Download and install driver.
Close GFE.

The problem is there is no benefit to consumers for them to lock drivers behind a registration wall now, when they've been free access for years prior.

No benefit at all.
 

Stevey

Member
The problem is there is no benefit to consumers for them to lock drivers behind a registration wall now, when they've been free access for years prior.

No benefit at all.

Yeah there's no benefit, but what's the downside?
I'm not seeing one.
It's a total non issue
 
Yeah there's no benefit, but what's the downside?
I'm not seeing one.
It's a total non issue

The downside is some people do not want to deal with GFE. It's not required to make the hardware work with the drivers or the operating system, and Nvidia is artificially making it a requirement.
 

ClearData

Member
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Yeah. Nvidia basically can do whatever the fuck they want at this point. suck it up, guys.

That's the most defeatist attitude I've heard in this thread. I hope you are being sarcastic. Companies rise and fall all the time and in short spans of time. If Nvidia thinks that it can bludgeon its customers with policies they don't like then they will lose their lofty position sooner or later.
 
That's the most defeatist attitude I've heard in this thread. I hope you are being sarcastic. Companies rise and fall all the time and in short spans of time. If Nvidia thinks that it can bludgeon its customers with policies they don't like then they will not lose their lofty position sooner or later.

Not if they keep on making the best cards they won't.
 

_woLf

Member
And for people like me whos PCs refuse to run GFE properly...? I just get to wait for quarterly updates?

Thanks, Nvidia.
 
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Yeah. Nvidia basically can do whatever the fuck they want at this point. suck it up, guys.[/QUOTE]

Nvidia has had the best product for the better part of a decade I'm not going to buy an inferior product to save $50. The reason the market is in the place it is right now is AMD's fault. That being said if DX12 stuff turns out to better on AMD in practice and Nvidia keeps doing stuff like this I'll buy an AMD card in a heartbeat.
 

Stevey

Member
The downside is some people do not want to deal with GFE. It's not required to make the hardware work with the drivers or the operating system, and Nvidia is artificially making it a requirement.

So people dont want to use GFE and would rather download them from the website?
That's it?
There's bigger things to be worried about IMO.
 
How does this even benefit NVidia? How does forcing everyone to install the GeForce Experience allow them to make more money? I guess they get more emails in their databases, but that doesn't seem worth the price of pissing off even a small number of customers.
 
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