It was 22.3m sold through not shipped.
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Microsoft FY2015 Q4: 1.4M 360+XBO Shipped
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Ninja Scooter
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Yeah Bone seems like it's gonna be closer to the original Xbox in performance than Xbox 360. The Xbox division are going to be kicking themselves forever for fucking up the Xbone's announcement + first year. They pretty much threw away 8 years worth of momentum and good will.
AgentP
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But they also tend to have a ton of product on the shelf afterward. They still are selling AC bundles from last November...
ethomaz
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No, It was shipped.
It was 20.2 million sold through as of March 1st.
With PS3 it's hard to do just because of the technology inside.
With 360 they're trying to keep margins high.
It's nowhere near as bad as the original Xbox. The original Xbox just couldn't take off anywhere, and where it did take off in the USA it was fairly short lived. Plus they lost something like ~$160 on every unit sold and $4 billion over the life cycle so at least the Xbox One isn't doing that bad haha.
Sony's FY ended on March 31st, the release next week will be for their Q1. If you mean by the end of this FY, they should be well past 28mm.
Well sales and the perception of the game being good on a personal level are different things, hence the "do well" is problematic.
New IPs are volatile. They are not "known" brands with established consumer expectations. So far, games with averages in the 70s do okish, to bad. 80's, 50/50. high 80s and 90's....should do well.
A lot will depend on the marketing too.
If Scalebound ends up being hack'n'slash it will be interesting to see sales and attach rates - Bayonetta 2 and MGR ring a bad bell. It should review decent at the very least (given Platinum's background on this front).
As for Rare, wildcard game targeting a base that's more suited for Nintendo's console rather than Xbox's. The Sunset Overdrive base per say. Quality will be key.
Quantom Break, hit or miss kind of game on the critics side. The game will release at a time of year MS has been usually dry with AAA exclusives. On that fact alone I think we'll see some sales pick up. With Uncharted 4 and SFV releasing around the same time I think MS will push it decently and Xbox owners will take notice. I say same performance as Alan Wake sales wise - give or take.
I would say a shooter of an established brand on the Xbox One of all consoles will do rather better than 50/50. It will be MS "big" holiday title for 2016.
zhuge how far are shipments from sell through in Q4 is it usually a lot? I assume sales do not lag that far behind sell through for the quarter in slower periods. Is that a good assumption or really bad one. I realised that I was using it as an upper limit but that would be completely wrong, is it at least an alright approximation or again a really bad mistake?
Ninja Scooter
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I just mean in terms of overall unit sales. If you were a betting man, when it's all said and done do you think that the Xbox One's total LTD sales will fall closer to 24 million or 80 million?
Crimson_Gold
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51.9 million units. That's right. Almost dead in the middle.
Honestly this is probably close. It'll do 50-60 in the end.
Oh, ok.
Yea, no, this is not what I am saying at all. The Xbox One is doing well in that it's holding its own ground. The PS4 is selling like crazy, PS2 level sales, so you can't really say that "Oh, it's not beating the competition so it's not doing well."
I agree with the rest, but I have a feeling about Quantum Break being critically well received in the same way I think Uncharted 4 will be, same with Gears of War 4. Time will tell, I suppose.
Pathfinder
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QB's companion TV show should also help the game get some good attention, as long as it doesn't suck.
Liabe Brave
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I apologize, but could you point me to these older threads? I read through a couple hundred posts in your history and couldn't find anything.
That's an aggressive target. They've managed about 14m in the first 18 months. At that rate, it'd take another 4+ years to land in your range. And usual console trajectory is early peak and then decline, lowering the yearly average over time.
This is an easier target, but only a little. They're a little below 10m right now in US and UK. At the current rate, it'd be not quite 4 years more to hit this number. The remark above about slowdown also applies here.
Neither number is impossible, but they're not inevitable. If Microsoft discontinue Xbox One soon after launching its successor, or if they don't but the next launch is before 2019 and very successful, these numbers might not be attained. (Of course, the reverse applies--dragging out the generation, or something like an unexpected Kinect-esque boost from Hololens, could cause them to bust through these goals handily.)
Unlikely. It's not something that's airing on TV, it's more like the natural evolution of Remedy's mix of TV and video game presentation they've been doing since May Payne. I'm expecting something like Alan Wake, but with the video production closer to the short mini series that was downloadable before AW came out. They've been very ambiguous about exactly what the TV aspects will be (things like specific interactions with he the video parts themselves), but it's not something designed to bring people into playing the game. It's just more of what Remedy does best, mixing the mediums.
They definitely shit away a lot of momentum, but you're way off base lmao. The original Xbox shipped 24 million consoles in 4-5 years.
Pathfinder
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Even still, the idea sounds enticing enough to possibly bring some people on board who are Max Payne/Alan Wake fans.
It's very, very difficult to have a different feeling for Uncharted 4
That's o'right. Your initial comment was addressing sales performance of those titles however.
No, those people are already sold, trust me. Remedy fans go where Remedy goes.
The days I saw QB gameplay was the day I preordered a system.
Well, critical acclaim will drive sales, it did with Sunset Overdrive. Has Microsoft dissapointed yet with an exclusive other than Ryse? Either way, as long as Phil brings the games and they are willing to muddy their sleeves with aggressive pricing, Xbox will do great.It's very, very hard to have a different feeling for Uncharted 4
That's o'right. Your initial comment was addressing sales performance of those titles however.
I don't see it, I see 50m being the upper limit, it took Xbox 360 around 8 years to hit 50m in the US and I don't think this gen is going to last that long, and sales didn't tank when the predecessor was announced which I think will happen to the Xbox One when the Xbox Two is launched like with the PS3 when PS4 was announced.
travisbickle
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I wouldn't say the XB1 is holding its ground. Zhuge's numbers for the 360 have a 50/50 split between lifetime sales US/rest of the world. Whereas estimates have the split for One already being possibly 65/35, in a period we know is getting exponential growth in markets outside the US. i.e.: Sony is breaking sales records across the globe, when XB1 is not. XB1 should be hitting some kind of sales records outside of the US just by virtue of an expanding market, it's not and meanwhile it's trajectory in the US could have it crossing paths with the 360 by Christmas ... which is currently 65% of it's global market!
(someone correct me on those percentages if they're wrong? I occasionally pop into the sales threads and I'm sure I've seen those numbers.)
(someone correct me on those percentages if they're wrong? I occasionally pop into the sales threads and I'm sure I've seen those numbers.)
krypt0nian
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Numbers are not terrible but not good either.
Their biggest problems as usual are the total lack of sales outside of the US and UK and the fact they continue to use a strategy totally focused around a single quarter (calendar Q4) where they overship a lot. They need to cultivate sales all over the year because while it's true that volumes are smaller, it's a very long period with a lot of impact on mindshare. At least they seem to be trying with a few good deals and a few summer releases (like the upcoming GOW remaster).
We'll see what Sony is going to report at the end of the month, last year they shipped 3.5m PS4+PS3 in the same period, this year I think they'll be slightly down but still over 3m.
Their biggest problems as usual are the total lack of sales outside of the US and UK and the fact they continue to use a strategy totally focused around a single quarter (calendar Q4) where they overship a lot. They need to cultivate sales all over the year because while it's true that volumes are smaller, it's a very long period with a lot of impact on mindshare. At least they seem to be trying with a few good deals and a few summer releases (like the upcoming GOW remaster).
We'll see what Sony is going to report at the end of the month, last year they shipped 3.5m PS4+PS3 in the same period, this year I think they'll be slightly down but still over 3m.
pixelation
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I wouldn't call this results "decent" myself, I'd say they're barely acceptable, specially with all the crazy promos they've been doing, where i'm from there's a phrase for this type of results and it reads "pasar de panzaso", or "barely making it through thanks to your big belly".
Bro I have no idea where I posted all this. Certainly this year and after Feb I think.
But as I said, I've seen non public data which allowed me to be very accurate with total shipments + used the calculations I have in order to confirm these numbers + see for myself. Hence why I'm very confident in stating that shipments will be 14.00m or over for XB1.
As a reference as well, PS3 shipped 3.80 million units between Oct 13 and Mar 15. Which is down considerably. Just thought I'd show how much PS3 has slipped and Xbox 360 has seen somewhat similar declines.
It's less than 60% just for the US. Over 65 and almost 70 when you include the UK.
I thought the Xbox division didn't exist?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/22/xbox-division-shines-despite-microsofts-21-billion-loss
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/22/xbox-division-shines-despite-microsofts-21-billion-loss
You might want to read the article first. And the original post of this thread.
Liabe Brave
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Unfortunately, you've posted so much that search only goes back to May of this year. Can you please just explain again for those of us who missed it? As someone who's tried in the past to find effective predictive methodologies for videogame sales, I'm very interested in your approach.
The accuracy of your historical data isn't in question (though if you're claiming insider information, you'll probably want to be vetted by Bish). The question mark is the undefined calculations you're using. Just because you can postdict shipment numbers doesn't verify the robustness of your method. And I can tell you're very confident; I'm asking you to explain why other people should be.
Welfare
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They stick it in Computing and Gaming Hardware.
SnowFlakeCake
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Didn't Sunset Overdrive not do so well? Quantum Break looks great but the live action part is turning me off big time, it very much feels like a gimmick to me and the small part they did show had acting of the quality that Sci-Fi channel would laugh at. The actual game itself is so pretty I just hope the live action aspect is thrown out completely.
It's pretty obvious how the announced XB1 games will do, no rocket scientist needed to figure that shit out. Gears 4 will do amazingly well, QB around Alan Wake levels and Scalebound will sell like shit. Track record and brand name makes these sales predictions pretty easy.
More crazy predictions: PS4 will continue tearing XB1 apart everywhere that isn't NA or UK, FIFA 16 will be the best selling game in EU this year, Halo 5 and GT7 will sell well, Gotze will continue warming the bench for another season. I'll be here all week.
I'll either post it here or PM you later.
Don't have time right now to do a write up.
Those games being in the spring will be better for them. Sunset came out right at the beginning of the holiday rush and it was a new IP. It didn't have much chance at succeedingDidn't Sunset Overdrive not do so well? Quantum Break looks great but the live action part is turning me off big time, it very much feels like a gimmick to me and the small part they did show had acting of the quality that Sci-Fi channel would laugh at. The actual game itself is so pretty I just hope the live action aspect is thrown out completely.
It's pretty obvious how the announced XB1 games will do, no rocket scientist needed to figure that shit out. Gears 4 will do amazingly well, QB around Alan Wake levels and Scalebound will sell like shit. Track record and brand name makes these sales predictions pretty easy.
More crazy predictions: PS4 will continue tearing XB1 apart everywhere that isn't NA or UK, FIFA 16 will be the best selling game in EU this year, Halo 5 and GT7 will sell well, Gotze will continue warming the bench for another season. I'll be here all week.
Welfare
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At launch, Phil said the sales were looking good. We don't know what Microsoft's expectations were and if they were met.
Liabe Brave
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No problem, whatever's more convenient for you. Thank you very much!
Last we heard, Sunset Overdrive sold well for being a new IP and positioned in fall.
Chobel
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The game flopped in every market.
Welfare
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Chobel
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I doubt that, the game sold only 280K in US by the end of 2014 (not including digital). And I have no doubt it sold way less than that in other markets.
Ricerocket
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I've only seen bad news on that game and there is a lack of sales news on the game that backs it up.
Welfare
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Wasn't that only by the end of 2014 though? We don't know where it has ended up now.
Chobel
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Yes (I'll edit my comment XD), but I seriously doubt it had any legs to make any significant difference.
Neuromancer
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Respectable numbers, competition is good for everyone. Hungry Microsoft will keep Arrogant Sony on its toes for the next couple of years.