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I have yet to play a good Little Mac but I love fighting them as it feels like it an easy win for me.

Just keep close to edge and force them to come to you and you've already won.

The only character that truly scares me are Good ROB's with their range and attack power.

I always get them to high percent's and last stock but usually I unable to finish them off.
 
I see Mac's from time to time, but they're easy to beat. I think I lost once when I first got the game, and that's when I thought you could shield the KO punch lol.

There's no real one character that I see too much of online either, so that's nice. I guess it would be Mac, ZSS, or maybe Link if I had to pick?

Oh, and I agree that Luigi sucks now. He has nothing really going for him from my understanding. At least Mega Man has a good recovery.
 
Chaotic-Strike said:
I have yet to play a good Little Mac but I love fighting them as it feels like it an easy win for me.

Just keep close to edge and force them to come to you and you've already won.
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Would love to play you

I love how everyone first said little Mac is op, and now everyone says he's super easy to beat. I think he's just there in the middle, pretty balanced. I would love to play against all those that think little Mac is an easy win
 
Chaotic-Strike said:
I have yet to play a good Little Mac but I love fighting them as it feels like it an easy win for me.

Just keep close to edge and force them to come to you and you've already won.
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I've been trying to make this point lol.

You can tell which Mac's are actually good based on how they adjust to this situation. Hell, I've fought some Mac's who actually wait at the edge for me!! The good ones usually center themselves on the stage (much harder to beat though).
 
DeDeDe is mystifying to me. How do you beat a good DeDeDe? Sometimes I can't even get a single goddamn hit. It's like his grab has twice the reach of any other character. So frustrating.
 
jorgejjvr said:
Would love to play you

I love how everyone first said little Mac is op, and now everyone says he's super easy to beat. I think he's just there in the middle, pretty balanced. I would love to play against all those that think little Mac is an easy win
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People have been saying little Mac was awful since E3 if I remember correctly.
 
Pseudo_Sam said:
DeDeDe is mystifying to me. How do you beat a good DeDeDe? Sometimes I can't even get a single goddamn hit. It's like his grab has twice the reach of any other character. So frustrating.
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My Rosalina & Luma faired pretty well against a good DeDeDe.

He beat me, but that was partly because I completely forgot Rosa's down B existed.
 
jorgejjvr said:
Would love to play you

I love how everyone first said little Mac is op, and now everyone says he's super easy to beat. I think he's just there in the middle, pretty balanced. I would love to play against all those that think little Mac is an easy win
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I still want to play your Little Mac with my Little Mac, since you're one of the more prevalent Mac mains on here it seems.
 
jorgejjvr said:
Would love to play you

I love how everyone first said little Mac is op, and now everyone says he's super easy to beat. I think he's just there in the middle, pretty balanced. I would love to play against all those that think little Mac is an easy win
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I'm mostly referring from personal experience in For Glory.

I haven't really played against a good one yet, and I've seen the tournament streams, so I know the character can be good in the right hands.
 
jorgejjvr said:
Would love to play you

I love how everyone first said little Mac is op, and now everyone says he's super easy to beat. I think he's just there in the middle, pretty balanced. I would love to play against all those that think little Mac is an easy win
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Sure. When I get home :)
 
jorgejjvr said:
Great. Makes it more rewarding being good with me
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It's likely more a matter of his environment. Mac's going to be great in For Glory because it's an environment he thrives in, but the moment you add platforms into the mix he starts having a little trouble keeping up.
 
Can everyone pick five characters that they think are pretty bad overall? Not saying they're impossible to win with or are garbage or anything, but characters that don't really have an edge over anyone else in any meaningful way.

My five would be:
1. Mega Man
2. Luigi
3. Shulk
4. Olimar :(
5. Marth/Lucina

Feel free to tell my why I'm wrong, but I've never had any trouble at all with any of these characters online, and I've never seen amazing stuff from them on streams or anything.
 
Moonlight said:
I wish Robin's ground-speed were a little faster. It's so jarring to go back from Palutena and Lucina's great dash speeds and have Robin who basically has to shuffle their way across the stage at top speed. I know tacticians value intelligence, but there's no harm in a little athletics!
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I love Robin, but yeah, he/she moves too slowly. :/
 
Berordn said:
It's likely more a matter of his environment. Mac's going to be great in For Glory because it's an environment he thrives in, but the moment you add platforms into the mix he starts having a little trouble keeping up.
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Depends on the platforms. I'd argue he's better on Battlefield, because he can use land-attacks closer to the ceiling than he could on Final Destination. And on Corneria, holy shit he just flat out thrives on Corneria. Don't go against Mac on Corneria.
 
Hatchtag said:
Good Sonics, ZSSs, Dededes, Yoshis, Marios, and Meta Knights are fucking horrifying as a Little Mac main. Wario was up there to, but lolgrabrelease.
Seriously, Dedede just flat out shuts Little Mac down. Super armor? Check. Gimping? Check. Range? Check. Projectile? Check. Good aerials? Check. Good recovery? Check. He's everything Little Mac struggles with in one character.
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I have yet to encounter a DeDeDe so I'll have to cross that bridge when it comes. Fortunately I have other characters in the wings to swap out for. Dr. Mario, Sheik, DHD and R.O.B are all decent secondary picks for me.
 
Starphoenix said:
I have yet to encounter a DeDeDe so I'll have to cross that bridge when it comes. Fortunately I have other characters in the wings to swap out for. Dr. Mario, Sheik, DHD and R.O.B are all decent secondary picks for me.
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My secondary is Ganondorf, who does decent against most of that group, excluding Meta Knight. Good Meta Knights just flat out destroy me. Luckily I've only encountered one.

Anyways, anyone with a good connection wanna play my Little Mac in a bit?

Spinluck said:
Falco is another good Little Mac counter.
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How so? I haven't played that many Falcos, but the ones I have haven't countered him at all, and I can't think of anything in his toolset that really hurts Mac much.
 
Beelzebufo said:
Can everyone pick five characters that they think are pretty bad overall? Not saying they're impossible to win with or are garbage or anything, but characters that don't really have an edge over anyone else in any meaningful way.

My five would be:
1. Mega Man
2. Luigi
3. Shulk
4. Olimar :(
5. Marth/Lucina

Feel free to tell my why I'm wrong, but I've never had any trouble at all with any of these characters online, and I've never seen amazing stuff from them on streams or anything.
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Some recent matches I had demonstrated to me that Marth can be as graceful and devastating in Smash 4 as he was in Melee with the right player. I'm not sure about counting him out.

I might put Mega Man there if we're talking about "no clear advantages," but then again I've been doing pretty well with Mega, so... I really can't say.
 
Beelzebufo said:
Can everyone pick five characters that they think are pretty bad overall? Not saying they're impossible to win with or are garbage or anything, but characters that don't really have an edge over anyone else in any meaningful way.

My five would be:
1. Mega Man
2. Luigi
3. Shulk
4. Olimar :(
5. Marth/Lucina

Feel free to tell my why I'm wrong, but I've never had any trouble at all with any of these characters online, and I've never seen amazing stuff from them on streams or anything.
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I think Mega Man is vastly underrated. Yes, he doesn't have that many viable moves, but what he does have is a ranged Smash attack, the best utilt in the game, great aerials all around, crash bomber and buzzsaw which are good if used for pressuring, and a great dash attack. Seeing a good Mega Man player is like watching magic happen. It's really tough to figure out how to use him properly becasue he's so different, but some people crush with him.

Luigi is just terrible on flat stages. He has very limited approach options. Play against him on battlefield and it's a different story. He's a very well balanced character.

As for the rest, haven't played with them enough to know. Shulk has mad midrange, though.
 
I'm a new casual. What do I use grabs for in this game. I can just punch em a few times and throw them?

I never feel like I'm accomplishing anything grabbing. Is it solely for people blocking?
 
Hatchtag said:
My secondary is Ganondorf, who does decent against most of that group, excluding Meta Knight. Good Meta Knights just flat out destroy me. Luckily I've only encountered one.
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Oooh, Ganondorf is another character I've been getting into lately. I feel like he hits a lot harder than he did in Brawl, and his Flame Choke combos better.
 
Starphoenix said:
Oooh, Ganondorf is another character I've been getting into lately. I feel like he hits a lot harder than he did in Brawl, and his Flame Choke combos better.
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Yeah, I love Ganondorf in this game. Feels like the Project M Ganondorf, but having lost speed for more power.
Flame Choke -> Down tilt -> Dash attack -> Up air still the goat.
 
Haines said:
I'm a new casual. What do I use grabs for in this game. I can just punch em a few times and throw them?

I never feel like I'm accomplishing anything grabbing. Is it solely for people blocking?
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just be creative, try to watch how the character react being thrown and try to follow up with some attacks.

just to get an idea... Mario's: Throw Down + Up Tilt A + Up Smash + Up B will cause a solid 40+ damage.
 
And here we go. I'm not rough at all with controllers.

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Haines said:
I'm a new casual. What do I use grabs for in this game. I can just punch em a few times and throw them?

I never feel like I'm accomplishing anything grabbing. Is it solely for people blocking?
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Grabbing is good for putting in combos and getting those who attempt to block. Some characters like Ness (his back throw, for example) have throws that are actually strong enough to send someone flying or cause a KO on those with high percentage.
 
Pseudo_Sam said:
DeDeDe is mystifying to me. How do you beat a good DeDeDe? Sometimes I can't even get a single goddamn hit. It's like his grab has twice the reach of any other character. So frustrating.
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The only DeDeDe I have played dominated me. He kept d-tilting, grabbing the shit out of me and just dumbfounding me in general. I could barely scratch the guy!
 
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