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Biggest crow a developer has served this past gen?
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Barry Burton
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Splinter Cell: Blacklist. It's not Chaos Theory, but it was a hell of a lot better than I expected it to be.
DmC is a good game but it didn't serve out crow.
That is to say the fans expected inferior combat, no lock on, 30 FPS and dumbed down mechanics which NT provided along with the game selling worse. Most people actually expected a better presentation/story than previous DMC games so even if you think DmC excelled in those areas that doesn't really count as crow eating.
I ate crow on Godhand. I thought it looked mediocre from the trailers but after playing it I ate crow.
That is to say the fans expected inferior combat, no lock on, 30 FPS and dumbed down mechanics which NT provided along with the game selling worse. Most people actually expected a better presentation/story than previous DMC games so even if you think DmC excelled in those areas that doesn't really count as crow eating.
I ate crow on Godhand. I thought it looked mediocre from the trailers but after playing it I ate crow.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
For me personally it's all the folks that doubted Mistwalker and Hironobu Sakaguchi. Many felt Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey wouldn't be anywhere close to as good as Final Fantasy 13. It was thought by many that Final Fantasy 13 would mop the floor with both.
I think in the end the total opposite turned out to be true. There was lots of doubt about Mistwalker and what they'd be able to accomplish with such ambitious projects, especially with Artoon doing the development heavy lifting on Blue Dragon, or even whether they would have all kinds of trouble with Unreal Engine 3. We heard there were issues with the engine, issues that apparently delayed many other games, and yet they still manage to ship such a fantastic looking game as a Japanese dev before many others could. Then also toss in their work on the Last Story on the Wii. They, to me, overachieved in the previous gen.
So, Mistwalker and Hironobu Sakaguchi, and their overall competence and ability as a dev to put out big and ambitious projects that are just overall great games, was the biggest crow served up this past gen, because there were many doubters.
I think in the end the total opposite turned out to be true. There was lots of doubt about Mistwalker and what they'd be able to accomplish with such ambitious projects, especially with Artoon doing the development heavy lifting on Blue Dragon, or even whether they would have all kinds of trouble with Unreal Engine 3. We heard there were issues with the engine, issues that apparently delayed many other games, and yet they still manage to ship such a fantastic looking game as a Japanese dev before many others could. Then also toss in their work on the Last Story on the Wii. They, to me, overachieved in the previous gen.
So, Mistwalker and Hironobu Sakaguchi, and their overall competence and ability as a dev to put out big and ambitious projects that are just overall great games, was the biggest crow served up this past gen, because there were many doubters.
kunonabi
Gold Member
huh? Tomb Raider ended up being just as shitty as we expected if not a little worse. None of the concerns people had going into it were proven wrong in any way. It selling well and appealing to game reviewers was never in doubt.
I think Splinter Cell: blacklist deserves a mention. Coming off Conviction, the godawful shoot bang reveal, and the horrible spin in regards to Ironside's departure the game actually turned out really well aside from the story. Too bad it tanked.
Violence Jack
Member
Deadly Premonition? People wrote it off based on its archaic control scheme and PS2-era graphics. It and Nier now usually come up when you hear about underrated gems of the past gen.
Add Binary Domain to that as well. It ended up being a lot better than a suspected Gears of War ripoff.
Add Binary Domain to that as well. It ended up being a lot better than a suspected Gears of War ripoff.
I was hesitant about putting God Hand, but you and me both ate crow on that.
Holy shit I had a feast of crows.
I don't know if Arkham Asylum was ever really a crow serving. That game looked good from the moment it was revealed, had a big hype train going on with it, had a marketing hype train for it, and pretty much had its own demo/kiosk at a lot of gamestops.
I don't think anybody expected it to be a bad game.
I don't think anybody expected it to be a bad game.
Robot Pants
Member
This is probably the correct answer.
well it was supposed to revitalize the brand and be ninja theory's breakout title. So I'd imagine a portion of the press and NT fan base got a huge helping of crow. So large that cvg couldn't choke it down.
That game didn't deserve being called Tomb Raider, at all
vicissitudes
Banned
Everyone thought Super Smash Bros Brawl would be amazing. Much crow was served.
As for the game that served crow to me, maybe The Walking Dead? I didn't even care enough to look at screenshots cause I just assumed it would be garbage, but after some really positive impressions from the first episode I decided to check it out, and that was some delicious crow.
I can see that if you didn't play a lot of games in 2013.
The story is fucking garbage, won't argue about it.
I can see that if you didn't play a lot of games in 2013.
The story is fucking garbage, won't argue about it.
Yeah I remember playing this, it was great, but come on dude, that was a lightning strike that has yet to strike again.
Exploratory
Banned
Uncharted 2 multiplayer.
Assassins Creed Brotherhood multiplayer.
Mass Effect 3 multiplayer.
The Last of Us multiplayer.
I'm seeing a trend.
Assassins Creed Brotherhood multiplayer.
Mass Effect 3 multiplayer.
The Last of Us multiplayer.
I'm seeing a trend.
Robdraggoo
Member
I never gave it a glance until after it was out. Just thought "nother dumb sooter, no thanks". The praises it got made me look at it a little more closley, so glad I did
Admittedly 2013 was a bit of a down year for games for me. But I also actively don't pursue games that I know look bad / wont mesh with my tastes. Colonial Marines being the exception.
Hahaha true that.
Would you guys say the PS3 itself was crow? $599USD and nogaems was a thing for a while.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Shadowrun 360
Don't know how well this qualifies since it didn't sell well and was definitely content light for the price but plenty of people (including me) loved it. Before release, people were calling this game the devil the same way and for the same reasons people do Nosgoth now.
Don't know how well this qualifies since it didn't sell well and was definitely content light for the price but plenty of people (including me) loved it. Before release, people were calling this game the devil the same way and for the same reasons people do Nosgoth now.
BloodMoney
Banned
Agreed... I was tentatively excited for the game considering I never though it could live up the original. I was extremely pleased when it came close.
Uc2 multiplayer was ruined in patches.
brotherhood apes the ship. Once people knew this you knew it would be at least decent.
Lou multiplayer isn't that good but keep fighting that good fight.
-MD-
Member
It surprised me because of how bad it ended up being.
There was also Batman on NES which is regarded as a classic. And Marvel vs Capcom I suppose, though it's not strictly a "superhero" game I guess.
True, but they don't seem to have any complaints about the graphics. The sailing, triforce hunting, easy dungeons, and small size of the islands are their targets of ire. Nowadays WW's graphics are universally praised as far as I can tell.
You're lucky, I always get negatively surprised. This last month I played Far Cry 3, it went like:
MAN THIS GAME LOOKS AWESOME, WHY IS IT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HATE ON IT??
*30 hours later*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
nah, it was a disaster. Nintendo's Wii and software were doing better than anyone wanted to admit, which opiate noted.
Brutalitops
Banned
Haha.
Banana Aeon
Member
When Demon Souls came out, I did not have a PS3. My friend, however, did, and he was mad hyping it up, so I looked it up on Youtube, and saw janky. I dismissed his opinion, and that's was that.
Flash foward to me getting a PS3, then first thing I do is borrow some games, including Demon Souls. I didn't want to play it. It looked super garbage, and janky. No way the game was good.
Boy, that was the best tasting crow in my life.
Flash foward to me getting a PS3, then first thing I do is borrow some games, including Demon Souls. I didn't want to play it. It looked super garbage, and janky. No way the game was good.
Boy, that was the best tasting crow in my life.
Black Republican
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not exactly a game, but i never thought id purchase an xbox console (xbox 360) before a playstation (PS3) last gen, but i did. 360 was one of the best consoles ive ever owned despitee the fucked up hardware problems.
Exploratory
Banned
Lol yeah ok.
TitusGroan
Banned
This guy right here is Super Mario 3D World on release.
"I know we've had our differences, GAF. But just one time, before you die, you really ought to try... crow."
"I know we've had our differences, GAF. But just one time, before you die, you really ought to try... crow."
This, TLOU MP is one of the best multiplayer I have played and I really didn't expect much from it when it was annouced.
I'm not that sure if Uncharted 2's multiplayer itself counts, but the Uncharted 2 campaign would. Personally, most people I've seen talking shit about the multiplayer prior to the release were worried that it would negatively impact the single player's quality, they weren't really concerned about the multiplayer, and probably still don't care about it.
WonderCheese
Banned
Yep, good one.
Most recent one for me is Wolfenstein. I went from zero interest to loving this game.
THIS SO MUCH. When it was announced everyone and their dog was all like "fuck you Nintendo where is Galaxy 3 what is this shit". Turned out to be fantastic.
Sub_Level
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I vote for Deus Ex Human Revolution.
Was it though? The multiplayer was fun, yeah, but if they didn't do it would they have been able to allocate those resources to the singleplayer instead?
Was it though? The multiplayer was fun, yeah, but if they didn't do it would they have been able to allocate those resources to the singleplayer instead?
imo they surpassed it.
some aspects of the trailer are still better then the final result, but overall the game looks better then the render.
There were a lot of "Don't you dare make another game in this series!" hysterics about games that ended up good to fantastic. Tomb Raider, Castlevania (although this one probably to a lesser degree) Deus Ex, Xcom.
Maybe Asscreed with Black Flag, I know I personally did it for this game, I was really jaded by Asscreed 3. Similarly Splinter Cell Conviction. Maybe Just Cause 2, don't think anyone was excited for that after the first game. Call of Juarez Gunslinger. Ubisoft and Square seem to do pretty okay in this regard.
Maybe Asscreed with Black Flag, I know I personally did it for this game, I was really jaded by Asscreed 3. Similarly Splinter Cell Conviction. Maybe Just Cause 2, don't think anyone was excited for that after the first game. Call of Juarez Gunslinger. Ubisoft and Square seem to do pretty okay in this regard.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
XCom is a good one for me. I doubted pretty heavily but I was really happy with the end result.
Seven Force
Banned
Sonic Colors.
Before release, all we had to go on was that it was Wii exclusive, aimed specifically at younger children (even moreso than before), and was being developed by the team responsible for the last two Wii exclusive trainwrecks. For all intents and purposes, it had Sonic Cycle written all over it. In the end, we not only got a quality game, but we got the game that finally shattered the cycle.
Before release, all we had to go on was that it was Wii exclusive, aimed specifically at younger children (even moreso than before), and was being developed by the team responsible for the last two Wii exclusive trainwrecks. For all intents and purposes, it had Sonic Cycle written all over it. In the end, we not only got a quality game, but we got the game that finally shattered the cycle.
This is one of the ones I was going to mention. Bulletstorm got so much shit prior to its release because the advertisements for that game made it seem like nothing but grade-school humor and insults. They did a terrible job at actually showing off the gameplay, which ended up being a ton of fun. I really don't think most people would have expected to see that game sitting at about an 80% at Metacritic today.
Crackdown is another big one. Most people dismissed it as a way to get to the Halo demo. Then they had some time to kill prior to the demo and holy cow, Crackdown was actually really good! I wanted the game half because of the Halo demo and half because it actually looked fun. It ended up being one of the best games released on the Xbox 360 and remains one of my favorite titles to this day.
More recently, Wolfenstein takes the cake. It didn't get much in the way of good promo prior to release. I wasn't much looking forward to it simply because I didn't much care for the previous entries in the franchise that I had played. Then I received my review copy and wow, I was insanely impressed by what I was playing. I never would have expected a Wolfenstein game to play as well as that nor have a story that I actually gave a damn about.
