Sweet Ivy
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Infamous: Second Son Review Thread
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BruiserBear
Banned
This right here. I wanted to be hyped for this game, but as soon as I saw the first gameplay video I realized it was just more of the same.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
Lol.. that' was funny.
Those were my worries about the game. Being the same over and over, just with shiny new graphics. Not saying anyone here or in this thread, but other sites out there it seems that the main thing for some are just graphics. Graphics graphics graphics.
Meh.. game will still be fun. Looks like it's still going to be MLB the show only as the game I pick up for my PS4 when I grab one.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I honestly don't see any exclusive slated for 2014 breaking 90. The only AAA game I can see doing that is Destiny, simply due to scope and Bungie's "seal of quality" that gets reviewers all starry eyed.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Hot damn. Actually better than I expected.
Can't wait to play this. Going on vacation for a week tomorow, but my buddy is getting his PS4 from his XBO trade in today. Might pick it up before I fly over, will be a nice showcase for his new system.
Can't wait to play this. Going on vacation for a week tomorow, but my buddy is getting his PS4 from his XBO trade in today. Might pick it up before I fly over, will be a nice showcase for his new system.
This explains nothing again.
Spacecowboy77
Member
So it's a solid, fun, sandbox game that looks amazing but has crappy plot and some repetitive / uninspired game mechanics?
Sounds like every other Infamous game I played and I loved them.
Sounds like every other Infamous game I played and I loved them.
Chill Penguin
Member
Standards change over time and the bar gets raised. Not to mention GTA V came out since then, and every open world game is going to be judged against that game now. It suffers performance issues, but its missions and narrative are the best in the genre.inFAMOUS Second Son is a better game than inFAMOUS and inFAMOUS 2 and it may end with a lower metacritic.
I really don't understand how critics work.
Ravensmash
Member
inFAMOUS Second Son is a better game than inFAMOUS and inFAMOUS 2 and it may end with a lower metacritic.
I really don't understand how critics work.
Well, that's not how it works anyway.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Looks like solid scores to me. I mean Kotaku said YES so that means insta purchase for me!
But very expected scores. The game will be hella fun and is the best looking game out there so in the end, that is what you want really.
But very expected scores. The game will be hella fun and is the best looking game out there so in the end, that is what you want really.
And why is that a problem, exactly?
TetraGenesis
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This post is most certainly not a catalog of our contemporary travails, an accelerated reality bearing more truth than just gazing at our own reflection.
SEGAvangelist
Member
80 is the new 90. For real.
I just never understood this argument either. The other infamous were really bland and lifeless feeling. The powers were cool, but the world just wasn't interesting. Judging from the reviews, this one seems to be the same way.
KaiserBecks
Member
He gave "Killzone 2" a 5 out of 5. Clearly he works for Microsoft.
Well this is normal for all console exclusives....Nintendo/MS exclusive review threads are no different.
OT: Sounds like some solid reviews. Will be the first game I get with my PS4
ShockingAlberto
Member
You're trying to force an objective measurement in to numbers that represent a subjective sentiment.
He could give one game a 2 and one game a 20 and still feel the difference in quality is marginal. Who's to decide that isn't what the scale means to him? Moreover, why does it matter? Why is one point okay and two points the equivalent of razing homes and property?
Colonel Nasty
Member
I dunno, meta critic is a pretty decent barometer. For every sess score there's a playstation nation review on the other side. Game in the 80s is pretty good. I didn't really like Infamous 2 so hopefully this game helps me get back into the series.
Gameplay innovations? Sounds like buzzwords like Web 2.0. Something you can throw at it without actually having to say what you mean.
Exactly. It's a throwaway comment that you can level without having to actually defend it. Sure Infamous plays like Infamous. Ground Zeroes plays like Metal Gear. So? This isn't a new IP.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
No i don't have the game but I don't really need to play it to see that it isnt doing anything fresh. Where is the dynamic destruction or manipulative environments? The game really needed to go in this direction given its theme and the fact that it is on a next gen console now.
Ha, but not really. Definition of mediocre is "not very good." An 80, or a B if you translate to letter grades is above average and worth checking out.
Nestunt
Member
inFAMOUS Second Son is a better game than inFAMOUS and inFAMOUS 2 and it may end with a lower metacritic.
I really don't understand how critics work.
Its all about context
The Last of Us happened in between for example
JetSetRadio
Banned
Decent scores. I really don't know what to expect as I didn't play the other entries. At least I'll enjoy the graphics haha.
inFAMOUS Second Son is a better game than inFAMOUS and inFAMOUS 2 and it may end with a lower metacritic.
I really don't understand how critics work.
Evolution.
And it was actually caused by what you said: If Sequel is better than previous game, then Sequel review score has to be better.
If that trend continued we would have broken the review scale in a couple of years...
Interfectum
Gold Member
Saying inFamous has last-gen gameplay is a nicer way of saying it's old and tired.
Naw, it has to do with the fact that the sales and livelihoods depend on metacritic scores, as well as future sequels. That's why people get upset with scores. For example, Obsidian had to lay people off after New Vegas got 84, and we won't be seeing another Obsidian open world rpg funded by Zenimax.
...says the man with the Titanfall avatar.
just having some fun. no disrespect intended.
No, disrespect was intended. There's no reason to compare the two games that are nothing a like unless you're a fanboy.
Thornton Reed
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*Checks Gerstmans Review...
And out*
And out*
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Basically people love to mock reviewers but when their favourite game the normally perceived shill bump, it's time to get grilled.
Honestly it's good seems reviewers are slowly learning to use the rest of the game. Perhaps mediocre games will start to get 5 some time, perhaps... lol
BronsonLee
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I blame Troy Baker for all of this
BAKER FATIGUE
BAKER FATIGUE
Prince Vultan
Banned
Review threads for games like Skyward Sword, Sonic Lost World and Wonderful 101 also worth noting.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Now I'm confused to what Next Gen gameplay is..
AC4 has last gen gameplay
NBA2k14 has last gen gameplay
Dead Rising has last gen gameplay
Madden has last gen gameplay
Battlefield 4 has last gen gameplay
Need for speed Rivals has last gen gameplay
COD has last gen gameplay
So why exactly is a sequel getting docked scores for having the same gameplay as the original game. What difference does there need to be besides having different powers, which was never in previous games, a different story line different from the the last 2, a different set list of moves, other ways to navigate the city etc?
AC4 has last gen gameplay
NBA2k14 has last gen gameplay
Dead Rising has last gen gameplay
Madden has last gen gameplay
Battlefield 4 has last gen gameplay
Need for speed Rivals has last gen gameplay
COD has last gen gameplay
So why exactly is a sequel getting docked scores for having the same gameplay as the original game. What difference does there need to be besides having different powers, which was never in previous games, a different story line different from the the last 2, a different set list of moves, other ways to navigate the city etc?
Daniel Bloodworth reviewed it apparently, and he's honestly one of the best, most professional reviewers out there. I always enjoy his reviews. I'll check it out.
Same here. Gravity Rush is god Tier.
Hope the other reviews are right. They are better than I expected and I really pray this is a worthwhile experience beyond graphics.
Not really unexpected, but it seems to sell really well, great reviews should help too (getting some of those who don't just get any exclusive game for their PS4 anyway).
It's what I expected the game to get dinged for. It's inFamous 3. As a big fan of the first two I'm very much looking forward to it but if you didn't care for them, I doubt this would change your mind unless you really want a next gen visual showcase.
The control's in gravity rush are unique and tight. The gameplay was one of its best features. I could have fun just flying around with no missions.
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Titanfall was not revolutionary what so ever....its fun sure, fresh for maybe a couple of hours.....but I dropped Titanfall after 2 hours............I dropped my jaw and Infamous when the game ended...
Titanfall = fun in bursts
Infamous was so good......I finished it in one sitting (15 hours.) because it was addicting.
Now I'm playing it through again.
Impeccable
Member
Can you cite recent games you have played that define nxt generation gameplay, though? Because reviewers cannot.
TetraGenesis
Member
Show me an infamous game with a crappy plot. I have yet to play it.
DirtyLarry
Member
Feel very pompous doing this, however it is more relevant to the discussion here.
Some context, I originally posted this in the OT of the game, but think it makes much more sense in here. I also edited it down to just keep the most important points.
I am expecting "game journalists" to be extra critical of the game to be honest.
They know damn well many in the know are considering this title to be the first real "next-gen" game from a visual perspective.
As a result they are going to be extra critical of everything besides the visuals because from their perspective it is absolutely essential to be hyper critical of all other aspects of the game for "the integrity of the medium."
Please do not get me wrong, these other aspects are important to modern games. No doubt about it.
(Game "journalists") like to talk about the "integrity" of the game.
They like to talk about the artistic merits (not the graphics artistic merits, the artsy-fartsy artistic merits).
They really like to fabricate, I mean talk about, the political correctness and impact on society of the main character.
Basically they love to talk about any number of the countless other hipster topics they believe separate them from the common video game player.
The problem with video game reviews these days is they talk about everything except why most of us at least initially started to play these games to begin with.
To have fucking fun.
Some context, I originally posted this in the OT of the game, but think it makes much more sense in here. I also edited it down to just keep the most important points.
I am expecting "game journalists" to be extra critical of the game to be honest.
They know damn well many in the know are considering this title to be the first real "next-gen" game from a visual perspective.
As a result they are going to be extra critical of everything besides the visuals because from their perspective it is absolutely essential to be hyper critical of all other aspects of the game for "the integrity of the medium."
Please do not get me wrong, these other aspects are important to modern games. No doubt about it.
(Game "journalists") like to talk about the "integrity" of the game.
They like to talk about the artistic merits (not the graphics artistic merits, the artsy-fartsy artistic merits).
They really like to fabricate, I mean talk about, the political correctness and impact on society of the main character.
Basically they love to talk about any number of the countless other hipster topics they believe separate them from the common video game player.
The problem with video game reviews these days is they talk about everything except why most of us at least initially started to play these games to begin with.
To have fucking fun.
Mr Moose
Member
Still buying this, Metacritic score be damned.
LMAO!
Mine was shipped out on the 18th, it should've been here today, I need my neon/beanie fix!
i dont know, roger that 4 the future... but is a review after all
haha, yeah. I'd love to see the scores of a game that wasn't pick-up-and-play, and required some learning and time investment to master, like for example Final Fantasy XIII.
Resident_UA
Member
What game isn't "more of the same"? A lot of people would say the same about GTA, Titanfall or even Uncharted... What was the last "revolution" in gaming?