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Tea Party Groups In TN Demand Textbooks Ignore U.S. Founders Slave-Owning History
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Tornado Condor
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Lol tea party group
samus i am
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Unbelievable, fuck those guys.
Gamer @ Heart
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Great, more shit for liberal GAF to unfairly equate to all republicans.
ClovingWestbrook
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Not all Republicans, just the racist ones.
Dreams-Visions
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"a group"? so what? they only matter if they actually have the ability to influence things, which I can't believe they have.
krypt0nian
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DINGDINGDING....correct answer.
Although I do lol whenever someone says the tea party is not racist. Is everyone racist? Nope. Do I think it's a larger percentage than the general populace. I sure do.
Hell there are racist democrats, but you will never see any of them put forth such crazytime ideas.
Hopefully true. It's just insane that anyone group would vocalize this wish.
SouthernDragon
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Wow.
How about "No, fuck off" ? Is that an acceptable answer?
How about "No, fuck off" ? Is that an acceptable answer?
Wait, this is a thing that already happened in Texas? smh
The Tea Party isn't the whole Republican party. It's just a decent chunk of especially dumb and racist Republicans.
That was what was focused on in US history already without the need to omit slavery.
It was very much a "Yeah, they owned slaves, but look at all the good they did". Now it'll be "Look at all the good they did"
The county appears to be about 30% black too - near Memphis.
Inclined to agree.
balladofwindfishes
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Look at those states rights at work!
They succeeded in doing it in Texas, so I'm not sure why they couldn't in Tennessee.
SirButterstick
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Breitbart = Beerfart
Dreams-Visions
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Yes. And that wasn't the beginning. Crispus Attucks is rarely even acknowledged in most K-12 history books at this point. Neither his name, nor his race, nor his status as the first American to be killed in the Revolutionary War are mentioned anymore.
this
is all that remains of him and his sacrifice in many history books. and it was a systematic removal over the course of a few decades. removed piece by piece.
one group has nothing to do with the other. tbh, the first sentence of the article doesn't even make sense. school board != random-ass tea party group.
MWS Natural
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bengraven
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Someone I worked with tried to convince me that America HAD to own slaves - that our people were starving and it was only by enslaving blacks (and Indians, but he insists we never enslaved Indians...I suppose it's okay for the Spanish to have though because they're also the bad guys) that we survived.
And I say "we" though my family didn't emigrate until the early 20th century and from Germany.
And I say "we" though my family didn't emigrate until the early 20th century and from Germany.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
These Tea Party activists need to prove why ignoring uncomfortable truths about our history is necessary to teach students about how amazing our founding fathers and their accomplishments were.
They also need to prove that their motive is purer than to whitewash history in a way that suits their viewpoint at the expense of an accurate education.
And that they aren't full of shit, as well.
You're the only one I see making false equivocations in here.
They also need to prove that their motive is purer than to whitewash history in a way that suits their viewpoint at the expense of an accurate education.
And that they aren't full of shit, as well.
You're the only one I see making false equivocations in here.
Conan did a bit on this http://teamcoco.com/video/deon-cole-tea-party-slavery-deal
CF_Fighter
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When I was in school the fact the founding fathers owned slaves was rarely touched upon. All my teachers ever said were that they owned estates and plantations where they had "workers" on them. It was like they whitewashed the topic and it was never clarified these workers were actually African slaves and/or slaves of African descent. But, when I found out these workers were slaves it all made sense and was not surprising at all. If I ever end up teaching in TN I will tell my students the founding fathers owned and purchased slaves, no matter what the textbooks say or don't say.
Mammoth Jones
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Revisionist history is disgusting. Just tell the truth: The founding fathers were revolutionary men that helped create the basis of our democracy, yet they were ultimately flawed men like all human beings and many of them participated in the great horror of slavery.
What the fuck is so terrible about conceding this?
What the fuck is so terrible about conceding this?
Technosteve
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Bunch of fucking revisionist communists go back to England you tea drinkers.
I like how everyone calls this guy out on this, but he's too cowardly to reply.
Shit-and-run, the new trolling.
teruterubozu
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Another good one is "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" by James Loewen (inlcudes stuff about the removal of Crispus Attucks as Dreams-Visions mentioned). Basically our entire nation is exercising revisionist history, not just Texas, TN and the Tea Partiers.
Then kick all the crazies out of the party. It makes republicans look really, really bad.
Kai Dracon
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The only terrible thing is that it goes against those who wish to craft a narrative of white purity and superiority. Hence, other attempts to remove terrorism by the KKK, but emphasize terrorism by the "lower" races.
The "founding fathers" are popular figures to deify. Some efforts directly insinuate that they're like figures out of the bible - not just men, but divinely inspired, that god was working through them to found America. It would aid in that to simplify the image of the founding fathers to the point they're merely characters that fit the narrative.
The greatest book on American history. I will introduce it to my daughter at some point during her education.
Zinn :bow
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God damn it...you know, whenever it came up, I've always been quick to say that we don't have a reason to believe that the tea party is an inherently racist organization, despite the fact that I find them so disagreeable on most other things. Well, I guess I was fuckin wrong about that. They're a bunch of racists.
EDIT: Someone else up there had it; the key is that they need to have these figured deified, because a lot of their platform is based on the 'founding fathers' being infallible in their viewpoints. The implication of tea party logic is "If the founding fathers believed it, we don't have to think about it." That doesn't work if even one thing any of them ever thought is incorrect.
EDIT: Someone else up there had it; the key is that they need to have these figured deified, because a lot of their platform is based on the 'founding fathers' being infallible in their viewpoints. The implication of tea party logic is "If the founding fathers believed it, we don't have to think about it." That doesn't work if even one thing any of them ever thought is incorrect.
Sounds like it. Unfortunate.
Mercury Fred
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You know if allegedly sane Republicans would do something about the the whackjobs in the party you might not all get painted with such a broad brush.
perfectnight
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That's disgusting.
speculawyer
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I think this illustrates how religions are started. People white-wash the history of their leaders. Some new facts get fudged. And after a while, that long-gone leader was born of a virgin and spouting a message from god.
Because you don't create a zealot without shielding them from doubt.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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The Tea Party is only the beginning of the downward spiral of the rightwing psycho movement. These are truly fucked up people.
Captain Pants
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I'm studying to become a high school history teacher and shit like this makes me livid. I feel like this is just as important as the struggle to keep creationism out of science classes and it doesn't get the attention that it should.
Deified Data
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This is the most absurd thing I've read all day, but it's still early.
I don't quite get their meaning, here. Do we not already put enough focus on the founders' non-reprehensible activities? I can understand that their legacy could be clouded if the fact that they owned slaves became the sole avenue of study in their regard, but as far as I'm concerned there's plenty of room for a complete historical picture. In fact, it could be said that we don't elaborate on their negative traits enough.
Such a weird demi-religion around the founding fathers. In 10,000 years scholars knowing nothing else of our culture will be convinced he was a god to us, or something.
I don't quite get their meaning, here. Do we not already put enough focus on the founders' non-reprehensible activities? I can understand that their legacy could be clouded if the fact that they owned slaves became the sole avenue of study in their regard, but as far as I'm concerned there's plenty of room for a complete historical picture. In fact, it could be said that we don't elaborate on their negative traits enough.
Such a weird demi-religion around the founding fathers. In 10,000 years scholars knowing nothing else of our culture will be convinced he was a god to us, or something.
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