transformer
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Reading is hard for some people. Maybe he'll go back and read it after repeating this nonsense enough times.
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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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Reading is hard for some people. Maybe he'll go back and read it after repeating this nonsense enough times.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Honestly Playstation fans should be happy. An aggressive Microsoft makes Sony even better. Sony will absolutely not be playing any games for PS5, and that's the way it should be. Competition makes it better for everybody. As much as I wanted scorpio to be a beast (and it is) because I'm an xbox fan, I also know that it's going to trigger an insane hardware response from Sony at some later point down the line. This is exciting stuff.
Watson?
SpartanN92
Banned
So let me get this straight... MS creates most powerful console ever but it's not powerful enough...but they created the most powerful console ever...
thelastword
Banned
Will it be compatible with PSVR though? Which is going across platforms soon..
TheSpecialOne
Banned
Maybe you should watch the video....
anothertech
Member
Seriously. TBH, if anyone was expected to spew salt around here I thought it would be a few people that were hoping for Zen or Vega. But the salt is being spewed by non Xbox fans, which is just douchebaggery in my book.lol dude. We exclusively have the most powerful console ever made with no exclusives. That's exclusive to us xbox fans.
And that's what's getting me. The post historys tell the whole story. It's so predictable. I was wrong about it having Zen, and apparently about it being Vega (which still surprises me), and I'm not going around bitter about it. I'm going to honor a game bet I lost with chobel, and I'm using the avatar that has been picked for me cause I lost an avatar bet also. This is about fun. People are taking it way too damn serious haha.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
This thread is embarrassing man. Sort you shit out gaming side. For fucks sake.
What does "hardware level" mean?
I feel like they are tryna say "we moved more CPU things to the GPU because Jaguar too slow." But don't actually want to say it like that. We don't really need that in the PC space since you know, Intel.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Screenshot is Xbox One quality settings with some additions:
PC-like ultra-settings test was a separate thing, not presented in the screenshot:
The screenshot would show 88% if it was the ultra settings version.
I'm not sure it'll be that much bigger than the S, obviously it'll be bigger, but I'm not sure it'll be a mammoth size difference i.e. the pro - they'll be going for a sleek design, but in the article they stated they kept the ports identical so those who had AV setups for the S could switch over, I'd imagine size was taken into account for that too. The vapour heatsink will make it taller, mind.
LlamaJohnson
Member
Well, it's been real. For you brave souls who will continue to battle, may God have mercy on your souls. Goodnight!
supernormal
Member
In any case this only bodes better for the Scorpio since that means it's running 4k/60fps with additional bells and whistles and still has ample headroom.
Doug Heffernan
Member
tiredheadcrab
Member
For fucks sake.
Looks pretty close to Xbox One S size.
Is it just me or is having the disc drive on the right going to be weird?
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
How does it feel to have a game journalist write an article based on your posts, and then mix you up with somebody else? I've seen so many articles written based on "NeoGAF member said so and so in a forum post." lol.
Shil Pencer
Member
In the end gamers win. I am currently about to finish breath of the wild so I can move on to Horizon all while anticipating more Scorpio news and looking forward to crackdown 3. You don't have to fight it just let all the companies take advantage of you
transformer
Member
I probably should. The article was quite clear about Forza running 4K/60 with ultra settings though. I'm not sure what the confusion is.
Hawk269
Member
I am shocked that some posters here are bagging on this system and the DF coverage. The system looks mighty impressive and all the tech in it is pretty impressive. Being able to port Forza 6, add in 4k textures and it running at 60-70% of the GPU load and at 4k/60fps is impressive. This is on early hardware and early SDK's and they did in a very short time. I think many look past the extra ram, ram speed and the custom things MS and AMD have made.
It is just a lot of salty people. And to think that some are calling DF a MS mouthpiece and they sold out to MS and are only reporting what they were told. It is pretty sad. Can't some of you just be happy that someone made a really great console? Is it hurting you that a MS made console seems to be pretty damn good? I just don't get it. Fucking sad really.
There are many people like myself that are very impressed and are looking forward to this, just don't see why people need to shit on other people that are happy about this thing.
It is just a lot of salty people. And to think that some are calling DF a MS mouthpiece and they sold out to MS and are only reporting what they were told. It is pretty sad. Can't some of you just be happy that someone made a really great console? Is it hurting you that a MS made console seems to be pretty damn good? I just don't get it. Fucking sad really.
There are many people like myself that are very impressed and are looking forward to this, just don't see why people need to shit on other people that are happy about this thing.
soundscream
Member
I did you weren't paying attention. When it was set to ultra the gpu hits 88% when its on the regular settings its in the 60-70s.
I am going to have to disagree with that. What has been proven is console gamers are price sensitive. The PS4 at $399 smoked the Xbox One and the PS4 is beating the PS4 Pro right now. Best bet is to pack as much as you can at $399 which I believe will be the price of Scorpio.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
I'm worried this console will sound like a jet engine.
The XB1 is far from a perfect console, but at least it's quite.
Samurai G0SU
Member
326GBps and 12gb ram is all i need. Its going to be so goooood. So fucking gooooood mmmmm . The downplay is making me question mental health issues since its a severely serious matter to them. Hot, cheetos and dr pepper its a meltdown! Lol
Atleast i know when the next xbox comes with zen/vega its going to be one hell of a deep sea monster thatll make me nod like jack nicholson.
If we got a underpowered zen+vega just for the name, that would have been pityful tbh. "Ohhh its a zen but really a zen alpha because its so unnderpowered, naaaag nag nag,. Oooh its vega but so under powered/clocked, nag nag nag. Lost potential nag nag naag. Lol this shit is hilarious..
Atleast i know when the next xbox comes with zen/vega its going to be one hell of a deep sea monster thatll make me nod like jack nicholson.
If we got a underpowered zen+vega just for the name, that would have been pityful tbh. "Ohhh its a zen but really a zen alpha because its so unnderpowered, naaaag nag nag,. Oooh its vega but so under powered/clocked, nag nag nag. Lost potential nag nag naag. Lol this shit is hilarious..
I'm pretty much doing the same thing. Love the Switch. About to start Horizon this weekend on my Pro.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Looks pretty close to Xbox One S size.
I would like to take them at face value here, but bear in mind the tomfoolery that happened with their Xbox One S mock-ups, remember out wasn't so 1:1.
Is the PSU internal again?
I don't even know what your saying here, literally any Ryzen processor would destroy the Jaguar.
"no you're the fanboy"
"no you're the fanboy"
"this never happens when they do a positive thing for that company"
"they never did a positive thing like this for that company"
lmao
Also, some real hilarious "holier than thou" posts by a certain someone who made adamant grand claims based off things they "heard from higher ups at an event"(that didn't come true). Anyone following the previous threads know who I'm referring to.
Pretty sad in general.
The hardware is good. If you like the current/upcoming xbox lineup, and want 4k, it's a no brainer.
Whether it'd be worth it for third party multiplats for the average gamer remains to be seen as pricepoint and just how big of a difference there is compared to the direct competitor comes into play there, and we won't have either of those things for a while.
"no you're the fanboy"
"this never happens when they do a positive thing for that company"
"they never did a positive thing like this for that company"
lmao
Also, some real hilarious "holier than thou" posts by a certain someone who made adamant grand claims based off things they "heard from higher ups at an event"(that didn't come true). Anyone following the previous threads know who I'm referring to.
Pretty sad in general.
The hardware is good. If you like the current/upcoming xbox lineup, and want 4k, it's a no brainer.
Whether it'd be worth it for third party multiplats for the average gamer remains to be seen as pricepoint and just how big of a difference there is compared to the direct competitor comes into play there, and we won't have either of those things for a while.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
Can someone please dumb it down for me, what exactly is the power difference between the Scorpio and PS4 Pro?
Reading this thread just confused me
Reading this thread just confused me
rokkerkory
Member
You are way too logical right now!
Nah, your brand of blind fanboyism has its own special ability to shit up threads with nonsense
About 40%
JayWood2010
Member
Significant. More of a gap than PS4 and XBO.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Considering price/size and timing wouldnt it have to be underclocked to meet their price point overall?
They even say this in the articles ....
More than the difference between XB1 and PS4. How much that difference translates to real world third party games, we won't really find out till they actually come out on it. It could be way more, or it could be less as well, really depends on just how easy it is for devs to optimize for either system and how much effort they put into it.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
40-50ish% better? That said, we need more real world examples to draw better conclusions.
Wow, I had no idea that happened.
The price would be the barrier not the size because we are getting Ryzen CPUs at 65 watt TDPs right now.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Some posts in this thread are so ridiculous that they're actually quite funny to read.
Shall we tell you in Gamecubes taped together?
Well it's the same architecture.
FlutterPuffs
Member
This is either a tryhard troll
Or one of the most idiotic post in this whole Scorpio discussion.
GodfatherX
Member
this thread somehow, got even more embarassing
Jaguar Victory
Member
You are not discussing this with civility. Why are you mad that Ledbetter likes the console?
Tripolygon
Banned
I have read this article twice and the only things that stand out to me are
1. Delta color compression which is part of GCN 1.2
2. Improved GPU command processor to natively support high-level DX12 instructions.
3. Customised jaguar CPU
The first two being a fairly standard improvement in GCN architecture, second lacks details to know exactly what functions they are talking about, and the third being standard PR statement. The Xbox One has a customised jaguar, as does PS4/Pro.
Thats not to say Digital Foundry wont have more articles giving more details on more features. But strictly going by the above articles, you are wrong in getting the impression that Scorpio has more done than PS4 Pro. PS4 Pro actually has AMD Vega features.
Digital Foundry article on PS4 Pro enhancements over PS4.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1297359
Samurai G0SU
Member
Wouldnt the size of a zen+vega apu be bigger than the jag+polaris? I seen someone post die sizes and it seems ms aimed for a certain size for cost reasons. 360mm right?
FlutterPuffs
Member
When did they say it was as powerful? They didnt.
They did say that the console punches above its weight class, which is believable.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Hmm... really? What's so civil and discussion worthy about this: