mugurumakensei
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It's at 775k with UK, JAPAN and NA.
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Wii U Japanese Launch: 308,570 systems sold, Mario leads with 170,563 copies
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metalslimer
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Good launch, it's going to fall off a cliff most likely after the holiday with the current lineup. It's not going to be Vita bad because hilariously Mario will outsell the highest selling Vita game next week, but it probably won't be pretty. Nintendoland is probably the biggest disappointment
Not to mention he's taking the first week from each when a lot more than 400k have been sold in the US
Not to mention he's taking the first week from each when a lot more than 400k have been sold in the US
if they do 600k in the us, another 300k in japan, and i dunno, 200k in eu, that would get them there.
Majmun
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capcom games that eventually got ported...
wii got
zack and wiki, monster hunter 3, tatsunoko vs. capcom, little king story, muramasa, rune factory, chocobo dungeon, silent hill shattered memories, mad world, no more heroes, fragile dreams, the best version of winning eleven ... just to name a few
In a year's time, I see anyone that doesn't go by the name of Satoru Iwata as the President of Nintendo.
JaseMath
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I was using the numbers that we know for sure and some guessing at launch numbers.
mugurumakensei
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10k for france, germany, australia, south america and the rest of the EU?I was using the numbers that we know for sure and some guessing at launch numbers.
Tallshortman
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600k in the next month in the US doesn't sound very easy to do at this point.
lwilliams3
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They still have Christmas in west, and New Years holidays in the East. The numbers you have are also only for the launch period (7 days for US, 2 days for Japan, 2 days for UK), so it is too early to tell.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
w-what. I can only assume you started MGS with the sterling 3DS version.
hiroshi yamauchi... that will be awesome
The Abominable Snowman
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To be fair, Capcom had games that were supposed to launch with the 360 in NA, but most of them were delayed. Lost Planet was delayed for almost a year, and I remember (Neo?)Gaf flagging it as a dead game since noone would care about it then in the flood of better FPS'. Dead Rising was also delayed for a long time.
metalslimer
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If Wii U can't sell 600k in December in NA, that would be pretty terrible. It sold 400k in one week in December and consoles always sell more in December no matter what. Even the PS3 sold a lot more.
They do but the female playable character's breasts and backside are two small, and have no bounce physics in them.
Fixed.
it's hard to tell off anecdotal evidence when there aren't any per-region shipment numbers. anyway, december is a 5-week month for the npd. the only system that declined in sales following a launch was the xbox 360, and that's because it was so incredibly hard to find.
i also would anticipate numbers over 600k unless they are supply constrained. but who knows... there is no indication if wiiu is in or not at the moment.
metalslimer
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Why in the world are we talking about exclusives? GC murders every other NIntendo system released in the last 15 years in western support. There is literally no reason not to count multiplatform games as support.
You mean in terms of popularity? It doesn't matter, selling 600k or close to it should be a very easy task for december.
You mean in terms of popularity? It doesn't matter, selling 600k or close to it should be a very easy task for december.
Hudson is dead, and if they were doing a Deca Sports 4 it would likely have been a launch title. "Pretty much all it's going to miss out on is Kojima" is an insane comment to make given how much of Konami's traditionally gaming output comes exclusively from KojiPro, and how important Metal Gear is to that company.
As for Vita, well bringing it up only serves to prove how little Konami thinks of Wii U. Even after it became clear that Vita was a flop Konami still announced more games for it than they have for Wii U, pre and post launch. Though, that's not exactly a huge scoop for Vita since it's very easy to beat Wii U's Konami library of 0.
JaseMath
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425K (US) + 40K (EU) + 307 (JPN) + 3K (the rest). Again, they're rough and they're launch numbers.
lunchwithyuzo
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No, neither of those two were ever planned for launch. DR was delayed a month or two, LP a season.
The last time Capcom had a console launch game was SFEX3 for PS2. And that's actually the only other time they made a console launch, though they have managed several handhelds (GBA, PSP, 3DS, Vita).
metalslimer
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Very rough though because that 40k number came from just the UK in Europe which has dwindled to a much smaller percentage of total EU numbers than it used to be.
The Abominable Snowman
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Wii had more than enough shovelware that counts as support that outweighs the GC and even DS, probably every Nintendo system ever.
And many of those were exclusives.
Only 40k in EU? That might be accurate for UK but I believe the entire continent is a chunk higher.
some people here are already doom and gloom... so
PS3 sold just 197k units during its launch month. However, it sold 490.7k units in December. Wii outsold it by just 113.5k units in December, but that's not too bad when taking into account PS3 cost half the price of Wii. In terms of software sales, Wii benefited from Twilight Princess yet PS3 didn't have any big exclusive launch titles appear on the top 10 NPD chart.
Typically in the US the rule of thumb is to take whatever was sold in November and you double it for December. Seeing as how 425k Wii U were sold in basically a week in November if the Wii U couldn't sell 600k (basically only 1.5x of November) in the month of December then Nintendo has a huge problem on their hands. It's entirely realistic for Wii U to sell 800k in the US in December alone.
metalslimer
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The only place to be doom and gloom about right now is the UK where it basically bombed.
Tallshortman
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It seems like these days consoles are more front loaded and have significant drop offs. I'm not going to speculate though because who the hell knows. I'm just looking at the flat hype/lack of word of mouth (as bad as PS3 launch was there was still significant hype) and not a ton of advertising, at least wii level, besides the batman commercials. Thinking about it, you're probably right they can do 600k by January but it just doesn't seem like a slam dunk to me.
jeremy1456
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That's not that great when you consider the crazy shortages the Wii suffered.
Yep, 40k is just the UK launch. We've had another week for that to increase (although I don't expect by much), and I expect there will be other countries in Europe who sold more at launch than the UK did.
I'd say 200k-250k is a reasonable estimate for the EU right now?
mugurumakensei
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They're more than rough. UK is not 100% of the europe total. (UK launch week was 40k. We don't have numbers for the rest of Europe).
Wii U is going to hit the 800k mark imo.. [US]
metalslimer
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I doubt the UK is only 20% of the market right now, but it should definitely be over 100k.
Agreed. It's hard to imagine a scenario where Wii U struggles to pass launch all through December. Even Vita will sell a good bit more.
Lord_Byron28
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We were discussing western support.
Wii had more effort and time put in the titles and from a sales perspective their impact was much greater. I struggle to think of any significant western GCN support(BGE?). The Wii got the main multiplatform titles like cod, madden and guitar hero as well. The GCN lost out on a lot of the fps and m rated multiplatform titles just like Wii.
Sales marginally off from one of the best selling console of all time?? Sarcasm I assume?
If those number are right, thing should be at 1 million globally already. thats a pretty decent start for nothaving a true killer app yet. I wouldn't write this thing off just yet
Not to mention the lack of advertising. How are people hearing about this thing???
metalslimer
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Sales marginally off from one of the best selling console of all time?? Sarcasm I assume?
If those number are right, thing should be at 1 million globally already. thats a pretty decent start for nothaving a true killer app yet. I wouldn't write this thing off just yet
Isn't NSMBU or Nintendoland supposed to be the killer app? The biggest things Nintendo have left are Mario Kart and Smash Bros traditionally assuming more of the Wii ___ series doesn't reach the highs they did before. Nintendo need to get off their asses and reveal what the 2013 Japan lineup is because right now it's looking like things are going to get real ugly real quick.
Edit: Btw I guess Charlie ended up wrong again.
DaSorcerer7
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Nintendo directs?
for gc the companies did not port over games despite there was no good reason not to.
for wii there was good reason not to port the games as the versions had to be made by a separate team. however there was also a good reason to do the ports, as the market was there. third parties opted not to spend the additional money.
metalslimer
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Man, dat PS2 number
We will never see anything like it again
If Nintendo hadn't screwed up the 3DS launch with that price and software they could have probably beaten it. If the stars align the next Nintendo handheld could.
No. 360 December 2005 < November 2005 (shortages). With the extra week and being Christmas, it's difficult for December to be < November overall, but a drop in weekly average isn't that uncommon lately. Look at last year's Nov -> Dec in the U.S. for example.
Not sure what you mean. I've seen a lot of television advertising for it.
nsmbu will sell over time. it is not finished at all. same with nintendoland
there is no indication that the wii_ brand died. sure wii play motion was dissapointing but so was its advertisement. the last big wii games, wii party, wii fit plus and wii sports resort all sold very very well.
metalslimer
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True, the 5 weeks is a big factor, but it does exist so the NPD report should be higher since the Wii U isn't having massive stock problems nationwide.
Of course, I was just wondering what the big game was supposed to be if NSMBU couldn't be considered a killer app.
AranhaHunter
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Thanks for making some adds and changes there. I still wouldn't consider Castlevania a western game just like I don't consider the new DMC a western game.