Ninja Scooter
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Why would you think a guy with a gun shooting at the theatre is "part of the movie"?! It wasn't even in 3D.
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First Lawsuit over Aurora Massacre Hits
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Phoenix
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Even if you are on medication, the doctor can't perform pre-crime and assume that you might go out and kill someone. If so, much of the country would be in jail from taking anti-depressants and the like.
(1) They can't sue the "Holmes' family" unless you can find a cause of action, such as negligent entrustment, to go after them on. They can go after Holmes himself, but, well, he's broke and has roughly $0 earning potential for the rest of his life.
(2) I don't know how much money the Holmes family has, but I guarantee their pockets are much shallower than the defendants who were named.
vas_a_morir
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Sounds like someone is trying to win the ole 'redneck lottery.' When something bad happens to you or more often somebody you know, and you try to make as much money as possible by suing everyone who isn't responsible.
dehydratedbabies
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I'm responsible, here's my money, I'll go die now, goodbye.
shadyspace
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Some real great spoilering skills you got there, pal.
Phoenician_Viking
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It is a spoiler.
Phoenix
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That has been a sound legal tactic for greedy lawyers since forever. Cinemark doesn't want the bad press, WB will want it to go away - and while both will defend themselves, they generally settle for some sum to get it out of the press as quickly as possible. Sad but true.
Escape Goat
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The door was propped open (allegedly) and no alarm sounded. If thats true then I would totally say the theater was negligent.
They're just exits. At least that's how the largest chain in the US labels them. Not fire exits.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Ya blew it.
The Elite
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1 is ridiculous. They couldn't have planned for this and all the exits are used after the film to let people out in many theaters. 3 is ridiculous because Holmes couldn't have mimicked the events of DKR since he hadn't seen DKR.
Fuck scummy lawyers like this.
TimeEffect
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PoS scumbag this punk is. Some of these people lost their lives, some sacrificed it, he is complaining about the simple existence of the event?
The Outsider
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The emergency exit doors are designed for specifically that purpose. They're a way to get people out quickly in case of a fire, bomb threat, or some other type of... emergency. I don't see how you can sue on the notion of them not being guarded. Although, having said that, I suppose them not being alarmed is fair game, although it's not common practice for them to be set up to set off alarms.
Don't think we know enough about 2. 3 should get thrown out immediately.
Don't think we know enough about 2. 3 should get thrown out immediately.
Phoenix
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That is where the lawyer will have a case. If they are required in order to evacuate the theater for fire or other reasons, they will in fact be considered emergency exits. Whether or not they HAVE to be alarmed for that reason is something more debatable. However they are more than likely required by local building code in the event of an emergency and as such would be considered "emergency exits" whether labelled in that manner or not.
1.- I have no doubt that the exit door system in theaters will change after the shooting, but it wasn't negligence the way it was set up before. The guy could have come through the front if he had to anyway.
2.- Doctors aren't psychic, I doubt any amount of monitoring would have helped in this case.
3. Hadn't even seen the movie.
2.- Doctors aren't psychic, I doubt any amount of monitoring would have helped in this case.
3. Hadn't even seen the movie.
Most all are and have been since the mid 90s near me.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Yeah...unless there was just some blatant malpractice going on or the guy was on something that required regular levels being drawn, what monitoring is this lawyer talking about? I guess the doctor's office could call the guy to check in on him, but there is only so much the doctors can do. If the guy wasn't taking his meds and he's not in a hospital or other controlled environment, there isn't much you can do. People don't take their meds all the time.
It wouldn't go anywhere.
Zoe
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If they HAVE to be alarmed, then every theater across the nation has some work to do.
Ninja Scooter
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You mean the text that I spoiler tagged contains a spoiler?
Valkyr Junkie
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You must live in a nice area. All alarming the doors would do anyplace I've ever been to would just encourage the 'hoodlums' that hangout in theaters on the weekends to go into the theater and then set them off.
Escape Goat
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You also have to demonstrate a certain level of harm when you file lawsuit. "Mental anguish" is a catch all that is used a lot. Otherwise your suit gets thrown out. Almost always the claims are embellished but the specific ones this guy chose says to me hes just a scumbag lawyer out for money.
Count Dookkake
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ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
1 and 3 are bullshit.
Good luck proving # 2. Especially if Holmes stopped seeing doctors on the regular and they were unable to monitor him.
Good luck proving # 2. Especially if Holmes stopped seeing doctors on the regular and they were unable to monitor him.
Yeah, but many times people use the spoiler tags to say stuff like "just kidding" or anything else they want to cover just for the sake of it. I checked it by instinct thinking it would be something about the case in the OP without having the slight malevolence that it would be an actual spoiler for the movie.
Anyway, what's done is done.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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People have tried before and failed (see "Mcdonald's Massacre").
Forsaken82
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I think I am going to sue this guy for forcing WB to spend money on lawsuits when they could instead be hiring me on fulltime instead of their bullshit contracts.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Not if WB spends a set amount to keep attys on retainer.
You have to contextualise spoiler tags. If you've been on NeoGAF more than 5 minutes you know that the spoiler tag when used without context is usually used as a joke. This isn't a Dark Knight thread.
It has been standard practice since before I registered to go "(dark knight spoilers)
spoiler
Don't plead ignorance to this either. You've been a member for ages.
Not for nothing, but you know as well as anyone, that spoiler tags are used for jokes as well.
LyleLanley
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Can I sue Ninja Scooter for that spoiler?
Forsaken82
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it was a joke post ;/
marathonfool
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NinjaScooter almost got me on the spoiler. The joke was so bad, I don't remember what was in the spoiler tag. Thank goodness.
GraveRobberX
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Well the first one has some merit
The other 2 are just out there, especially #3
I know there are movie theaters who have CCTV/Cameras in the back positioned watching any people trying to get in to the theater, security does grab them
Also, the regular theater I go to with-in a 1.5 hour run time of a movie, an usher comes in 30-45 minutes block (2-3 total), goes near the theater, signs a white sheet, checks the theater nonchalantly and leaves
Regal Cinemas Midway 10 in NYC
Hell some of the theaters have an usher in front of each theater, checking tickets or with-in that area ie blocked off from theater hoppers + security
The other 2 are just out there, especially #3
I know there are movie theaters who have CCTV/Cameras in the back positioned watching any people trying to get in to the theater, security does grab them
Also, the regular theater I go to with-in a 1.5 hour run time of a movie, an usher comes in 30-45 minutes block (2-3 total), goes near the theater, signs a white sheet, checks the theater nonchalantly and leaves
Regal Cinemas Midway 10 in NYC
Hell some of the theaters have an usher in front of each theater, checking tickets or with-in that area ie blocked off from theater hoppers + security
BattleMonkey
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I don't know any big theater here that has alarms or is guarded.
And some theater security would have not really helped against a mad man with that much firepower.
And some theater security would have not really helped against a mad man with that much firepower.
LyleLanley
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Did Ninja Scooter get banned for that?
Escape Goat
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and spoil the surprise? I won't tell.
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