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Jex · Jul 31, 2010

See, that's a pretty excellent top 20 as well. It does lean heavily towards the most well known shows, but they are all very good works.

I mean we got Ghibli, Akira, Bebop, FLCL, Eva, One Piece, Monster, GurrenLagann, Planetes (getting some love!), Eureka 7 etc.

People like all those shows a lot.

Lafiel · Jul 31, 2010

tafer said:
All this grudge towards Death Note... I can't remember (or wasn't around for) GAF's impressions about this series, but I think it got a very positive reception? Why the sudden change... or has it been hated all this time?

And just in case, I haven't watched it and I'm not interested in it.

It's because of that certain event that happened past episode 26 or so. But i like the show, actually somewhat consider the show a guilty pleasure almost. I just can't get enough of the melodramatics, despite how ridiculous it gets at times.:lol

That list still holds up pretty well.

I don't agree with the rankings, but it certainly covers a lot of good shows. Except for elfen lied.:lol

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Lafiel said:
I don't agree with the rankings, but it certainly covers a lot of good shows. Except for elfen lied.:lol

Yeah WTF is that about. Ah well, outliers and all that!

tafer said:
I don't watch that much anime, but that list goes crazy after the first 15 positions. :lol

Once again, not that crazy. I don't enjoy Haruhi but I know why it's up there, for instance.

Also, subjective tastes make a subjective list. Go figure.

tafer · Jul 31, 2010

Kagari said:
Popular series tend to gather hate?

As for Death Note, it's decent enough. I enjoyed it for what it was not having read the manga at the time. I didn't obsess over it like some people though... so I can understand why people could dislike it because of that.

And once again I'm reminded why I have to be careful with GAF's tendencies/hype/etc.... (... I was expecting that answer, but not that direct :lol )

GAF's 100 anime list said:
...
25. Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya 18 78
26. Grave of the Fireflies 13 72
27. RahXephon TV 13 72
28. My Neighbor Totoro 10 69
29. Gundam Zeta 8 66
30. Mushishi 12 66
31. Wolf's Rain 13 61
32. Elfen Lied 11 60
33. Super Dimensional Fortress Macross TV 7 60
34. Great Teacher Onizuka 11 58
35. Maison Ikkoku 9 58
....

I don't watch that much anime, but that list goes crazy after the first 15 positions. :lol

Nonoriri · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
Yeah WTF is that about. Ah well, outliers and all that!

Once again, not that crazy.

Also, subjective tastes make a subjective list. Go figure.

45. Bleach 10 46
46. Gankutsuou 10 46
47. Paranoia Agent 8 46
48. Millenium Actress 8 44
49. Whisper of the Heart 7 43
50. Giant Robo 5 42

Bleach > Millenium Actress and Whisper of the Heart

;__;

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Nonoriri said:
Bleach > Millenium Actress and Whisper of the Heart

;__;

It's a popularity list. What do you think more people have seen?

Lain · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
People should push through more of Trapeze, it was a good show in all regards, and the character threads came together nicely. Nothing aimless about it.

I watched the first episode and disliked it (mostly because of visual style though).... then gave it another chance months later and loved it.
Some episodes of Trapeze are really awesome and had me laughing for a good while.

Nonoriri · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
It's a popularity list. What do you think more people have seen?

Well duh but it's still sad man.

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Nonoriri said:
Well duh but it's still sad man.

I see GAF has had one Satoshi Kon thread a while back. I imagine he's fairly well known among a certain type of fan.

But yeah, I get your sentiment.

mAcOdIn · Jul 31, 2010

So, Funimation put Claymore up on Hulu sometime recently so I decided to give it a watch now that I'm done with Full Metal Panic and, well, fuck is the dub terrible, I don't know if I can even watch it with such stupid voices, these people might as well be reading names from the phone book. I wonder if they have any openings, if this kind of work is acceptable, as I could always use some extra spending cash and it seems you can just phone in your work.

Damn. A bad dub to me is worse than a bad sub.

Geneijin · Jul 31, 2010

You guys were talking about Death Note yet no one mentioned the ending everyone wanted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1_K-mUH94 Huge spoiler obviously.

Defuser said:
It's Fall season,starts airing in october.
Keima : Hiro Himono
Elsee : Itou kanae
Ayumi : Ayana Taketatsu
Mio : Aoi Yuki

http://i32.tinypic.com/2uhn1ow.jpg

Praise the capture God.

Hitokage · Jul 31, 2010

Kagari said:
And no, I can't stand Azumanga or Yotsuba. It doesn't help that weeaboos were really attached to the former several years ago and it really bugged me. I tried watching it and couldn't get into it at all... don't understand why it's so great. For the record though, I do agree with most of that GAF top 100 anime list from a while back sans Azumanga

For me, Azumanga doesn't get funny until episode 3 when the teachers start getting involved. After that it's good outside a couple Sakaki episodes.

Kagari said:
http://i32.tinypic.com/2r39lzp.jpg

Btw, the original results thread for anyone interested: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173356

Was looking for it earlier.

The dub of #266 is all anyone needs.

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Hitokage said:
For me, Azumanga doesn't get funny until episode 3 when the teachers start getting involved. After that it's good outside a couple Sakaki episodes.

Yeah, the teachers antics are the highlight of that series.

Tranced Shadow · Jul 31, 2010

I found that the comedy of Azumanga worked better in the manga than in the anime. The anime has nice animation and a lovely OST though...

Haly · Jul 31, 2010

Dresden said:
Needs more ramen girl.

This man speaks truth. Ramen and little chinese dresses = win.

Lafiel · Jul 31, 2010

Tranced Shadow said:
I found that the comedy of Azumanga worked better in the manga than in the anime. The anime has nice animation and a lovely OST though...

I need to get around to reading the manga. It's only three volumes have no idea why i haven't.

For me, Azumanga doesn't get funny until episode 3 when the teachers start getting involved. After that it's good outside a couple Sakaki episodes.

.

Agree with this. Always found her to be a bit of a dud character, but i kinda feel bad saying that because her character is exactly like my sister.:lol (barring the obsession about cats).

InfiniteNine · Jul 31, 2010

Kagari said:
http://i32.tinypic.com/2r39lzp.jpg[IMG]

Btw, the original results thread for anyone interested: [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173356[/url]

Was looking for it earlier.[/QUOTE]
Bebop got number 1? Pfft, Bebop is great and all, but come on!

Lafiel · Jul 31, 2010

InfiniteNine said:
Bebop got number 1? Pfft, Bebop is great and all, but come on!

It's like #3 on my top three!

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

InfiniteNine said:
Bebop got number 1? Pfft, Bebop is great and all, but come on!

It was inevitable, after all, it is extremely well made in pretty much every aspect.

Jintor · Jul 31, 2010

Tranced Shadow said:
I found that the comedy of Azumanga worked better in the manga than in the anime. The anime has nice animation and a lovely OST though...

times a million

K-on on the other hand is only good as a manga because I've seen the anime

Tranced Shadow · Jul 31, 2010

Lafiel said:
I need to get around to reading the manga. It's only three volumes have no idea why i haven't.

Yeah, it's four volumes or one omnibus volume. Yen Press released theirs recently. I wonder if it's a better translation than the old ADV one...

InfiniteNine · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
It was inevitable, after all, it is extremely well made in pretty much every aspect.

Well, after seeing Love Hina above KimiNozu, Dirty Pair, and Lupin I can't take that list seriously anymore.

Lafiel · Jul 31, 2010

InfiniteNine said:
Well, after seeing Love Hina above KimiNozu I can't take that list seriously anymore.

102. Kimi ga nozomu eien 3 19
103. Koi Kaze 4 19

That's such a very strange coincidence. Because those are two "romance" anime's I've been meaning to see for years. I've already seen one of those two. So i might as well get the other one done.:lol

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

InfiniteNine said:
Well, after seeing Love Hina above KimiNozu, Dirty Pair, and Lupin I can't take that list seriously anymore.

That's why the list is a great starting part for anyone interested in anime. Although it's far from comprehensive.

Most of the stuff you've listed just hasn't been seen by the casual fan, I'd imagine. Which is a shame, but there's not really that many people championing those titles.

Jintor · Jul 31, 2010

Planetes is 20? I guess I should just be glad to see it on the list.

DrForester · Jul 31, 2010

InfiniteNine said:
Well, after seeing Love Hina above KimiNozu, Dirty Pair, and Lupin I can't take that list seriously anymore.

I wouldn't put it over Lupin or Dirty Pair, but Love Hina's one of the very very few Harem shows I enjoyed. No magical girlfirend angle, you actually saw the relationship develop, they weren't in High School. Manga had a fun ending too.

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Jintor said:
Planetes is 20? I guess I should just be glad to see it on the list.

We have to be thankful for small miracles.

firehawk12 · Jul 31, 2010

Ah, 2007. I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed in GAF that Aria is nowhere on that list. :lol

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Heat Guy J 3 : Man, the female characters faces in this show aren't great.

And they used the exact same shot of the CG market again. I think I'm going to flip out.

Brobzoid · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
We have to be thankful for small miracles.

Now that K-on is out we need to do a new list anyway, hopefully Planetes can score a little higher on that one.

JKTrix · Jul 31, 2010

I'm kind of sensitive to music in shows, so even if Trapeze was bad, it would have carried my attention just by how the music was integrated into the end of each episode. When each patient had their little epiphany at the end and the strings from the ending song quickly roll up, it's pretty uplifting.

Another show that comes to mind with how well they used the ending theme music to punctuate the actual end-of-episode content is Kurau Phantom Memory. Each episode from what I remember ends on somewhat of a mellow, but suspenseful note. The way the ending song creeps in I thought was effective in nailing down that feeling. I know at least one other person on this forum likes it, since they use one of the first frames from this show's ending as their avatar.

I can link the songs, which are okay on their own, but it's not the same.

Trapeze (videos of the the in-show ED chop off the lead-in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLUHMuGdeLw
Kurau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWgcFhT35IY

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

firehawk12 said:
Ah, 2007. I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed in GAF that Aria is nowhere on that list. :lol

If I watch Aria, will you be satisfied? WILL YOU? :lol

JKTrix said:
I'm kind of sensitive to music in shows, so even if Trapeze was bad, it would have carried my attention just by how the music was integrated into the end of each episode. When each patient had their little epiphany at the end and the strings from the ending song quickly roll up, it's pretty uplifting.

Another show that comes to mind with how well they used the ending theme music to punctuate the actual end-of-episode content is Kurau Phantom Memory. Each episode from what I remember ends on somewhat of a mellow, but suspenseful note. The way the ending song creeps in I thought was effective in nailing down that feeling. I know at least one other person on this forum likes it, since they use one of the first frames from this show's ending as their avatar.

Ah, the timely use of music within shows is certainly an underrated art. For example, the music is Mushishi if extremely important in setting the shows tone.

Strangely enough it's action shows like Gurren Lagann and Giant Robo that really grasp the power of their soundtracks. Utena as well. But that's mainly the big, sweeping themes to highlight some important battle.

Kaiji has a much more limited selection, but it was still put to good use.

Sometimes, you'll only think about a soundtrack because of it's absence. Eden of the East could really have done with a good composer, instead it sounds like elevator music half the time.

(Mentioning Kanno is cheating because the show she scores have such large soundtracks.)

Pachael · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
If I watch Aria, will you be satisfied? WILL YOU? :lol

Ah, the timely use of music within shows is certainly an underrated art. For example, the music is Mushishi if extremely important in setting the shows tone.

Strangely enough it's action shows like Gurren Lagann and Giant Robo that really grasp the power of their soundtracks. Utena as well. But that's mainly the big, sweeping themes to highlight some important battle.

Kaiji has a much more limited selection, but it was still put to good use.

Mentioning Kanno is cheating because the show she scores have such large soundtracks.

Aria is soothing as. Liken it most to YKK. More atmosphere-type shows, though so...

Watanabe (Mac+, Bebop, Champloo and music director for Michiko) had the timing to music selection into specific scenes down to a bloody art.

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Pachael said:
Watanabe (Mac+, Bebop, Champloo and music director for Michiko) had the timing to music selection into specific scenes down to a bloody art.

That's why there's little need to mention them, as they operate at such a standard.

Blader · Jul 31, 2010

I wish Watanabe would make a new series/movie already. Champloo came out six years ago!

firehawk12 · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
If I watch Aria, will you be satisfied? WILL YOU? :lol

Ah, the timely use of music within shows is certainly an underrated art. For example, the music is Mushishi if extremely important in setting the shows tone.

Well, you'll be satisfied because you've experienced the best anime ever! :lol

Of course, speaking of music, Aria is great because of how it incorporates the OP into every episode and uses the ED as part of the ending of an episode. It's also one of those shows where music plays throughout the episode to set mood and tone, pretty much subconsciously priming you to experience certain emotions on demand.

(Incidentally, I'm rewatching the series now, so this thread might become even more Aria heavy. :lol)

Kagari · Jul 31, 2010

InfiniteNine said:
Bebop got number 1? Pfft, Bebop is great and all, but come on!

Bebop is great. AND it was popular in the west during anime's peak here, which is why it's so high on that list. They still air it on Adult Swim I guess? I randomly saw an episode a few weeks ago on there.

Cowie · Jul 31, 2010

Leaving for China for a year today, and I have no idea what my internet situation is going to be like. But I can still be an active member of this thread in spirit! Using this post as a guide, you can select one of these predetermined responses to accurately approximate my reply to virtually every subject that will come up in this thread:

-This episode didn't have enough Mugi

-Tsundere is bestdere

-Taiga > [insert character from previous post]

-blah blah blah I don't like this popular show you like

-:lol

-fuck the haters, x
x:
-I'd wear that
-That show is going to be great
-She's cute
-I don't see why a man can't marry a ...

-Shut up. K-on is great.

-

-blah blah blah moe defense force assemble

-Oh... I liked it =(

-Girls eating cake <3

-In time, you will come to realize that Strike Witches is truly the voice of our generation.

That should about cover it!

InfiniteNine · Jul 31, 2010

Kagari said:
Bebop is great. AND it was popular in the west during anime's peak here, which is why it's so high on that list. They still air it on Adult Swim I guess? I randomly saw an episode a few weeks ago on there.

I know it's great I said it in that post you just quoted! I dont' really see it as a fitting #1, but I can understand the late night US watchers diet of whatever is on CN/TechTV/Anime Network on Demand. I just don't like how it is lauded king over everything else.They air it from time to time randomly just like they still occasionally show FLCL.

cowie said:
Leaving for China for a year today, and I have no idea what my internet situation is going to be like. But I can still be an active member of this thread in spirit! Using this post as a guide, you can select one of these predetermined responses to accurately approximate my reply to virtually every subject that will come up in this thread:

That should about cover it!

K-ON! is boring.

firehawk12 · Jul 31, 2010

Cowie said:
Leaving for China for a year today, and I have no idea what my internet situation is going to be like. But I can still be an active member of this thread in spirit! Using this post as a guide, you can select one of these predetermined responses to accurately approximate my reply to virtually every subject that will come up in this thread:

That should about cover it!

And in a year's time, maybe we'll all come to realize that Strike Witches is the voice of our generation!

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

Aria 1 : Who the hell just wears sleeves? I mean, a sleeveless top I understand, but not the sleeves in themselves :lol

Also, wearing high heels on a gondola? That's the real science fiction!

firehawk12 · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
Aria 1 : Who the hell just wears sleeves? I mean, a sleeveless top I understand, but not the sleeves in themselves :lol

Also, wearing high heels on a gondola? That's the real science fiction!

Fashion in the future is pure aesthetic without practicality! :lol

Jex · Jul 31, 2010

firehawk12 said:
Fashion in the future is pure aesthetic without practicality! :lol

Am I watching this show just to troll you, or for fun? Tune in, every day, to find out!

It's the former of the later, but inversed

firehawk12 · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
Am I watching this show just to troll you, or for fun? Tune in, every day, to find out!

It's the former of the later, but inversed

Right. :lol

Brobzoid · Jul 31, 2010

episode eight of the first season of Aria is on some grave of the fireflies shit. Watch out.

Dresden · Jul 31, 2010

Aria was some good shit.

It's obviously no Code Geass.

firehawk12 · Jul 31, 2010

Brobzoid said:
episode eight of the first season of Aria is on some grave of the fireflies shit. Watch out.

Still love President Aria? :lol

Dresden said:
Aria was some good shit.

It's obviously no Code Geass.

Amano missed the chance to include a Table-kun scene.

Branduil · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
Yeah WTF is that about. Ah well, outliers and all that!

Baby's first "mature" anime.

Hitokage said:
For me, Azumanga doesn't get funny until episode 3 when the teachers start getting involved. After that it's good outside a couple Sakaki episodes.

It takes a few episodes for the show to hit its stride. It's really rolling by the end, though.

Brobzoid · Jul 31, 2010

firehawk12 said:
Still love President Aria? :lol

I done told you AC2 mod with the Prez would be GOTF!

when he offers that seagull some of his rice cake... ;_;

Branduil · Jul 31, 2010

Jexhius said:
Yeah but it just doesn't have as much homosexual subtext as Code Geass.

That's actually kind of debatable.

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