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Frolow
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(03-24-2013, 04:53 AM)

If you were a kid in the late 80’s or early 90’s, you might have been forced to make a very difficult choice: Sega or Nintendo?

Wouldn’t it have been great to own a single system that could play games designed for any console? Nintendo and Sega would never have built a console together in the heyday of their rivalry—but now, two decades later, a company devoted to retro gaming has reverse-engineered the 20-plus-year-old hardware to create a sort of universal system.

The company is Hyperkin and its product is called the RetroN. The current version is the RetroN 3, which plays NES, SNES, and Genesis games. But Hyperkin is taking the RetroN to the next level (actually two more levels) with a brand-new product called the RetroN 5.

In addition to NES, SNES, and Genesis, the RetroN 5 will play cartridges from Famicom (the Japanese version of NES) and Game Boy Advance. The GBA slot is compatible with Game Boy Color and the original Game Boy, so the RetroN 5 can actually play games from seven systems. Perhaps best of all, the RetroN 5 brings HDMI capability and a host of features designed to make retro gaming feel slightly more modern.

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Also, here's the announcement video which has more details.
  • Supports NES, Famicon, SNES, Super Famicon, Genesis, Megadrive, GBA, GBC and GB games
  • Upscales to 720p with HDMI.
  • New user interface which will allow you to select which system you want to play along with a plethora of options.
  • Two controller ports for each system.
  • Will allow you to use any controller for any system, for example using a Genesis controller to play an SNES game.
  • Bluetooth wireless controller with directional D-pad, six buttons, two bumpers, two macro keys on the side, LED lights, and a home button.
  • Option to render audio "at a higher output frequency" resulting in a smoother and cleaner audio output
  • Button remapping supported for all controllers
  • Save states supported
  • Overclocking supported
  • Price point to be less than $100 with a release most likely in July.

Looks pretty great. I have the opportunity to play the thing out tomorrow so if you guys have anything you want me to try out let me know.
Quackula
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(03-24-2013, 04:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by BroBuzz

  • New user interface which will allow you to select which system you want to play along with a plethora of options.
  • Button remapping supported for all controllers
  • Save states supported
  • Overclocking supported

So basically it's something along the lines of a raspberry pi with cart slots running emulators.

I don't have much need for it personally. Still pretty neat though. The design of the casing is pretty slick.
runnin_blue
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(03-24-2013, 04:55 AM)
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If it works as stated I'll buy it. Already have a Duo.
Meelow
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(03-24-2013, 04:56 AM)


This actually looks cool, I want it.
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(03-24-2013, 04:57 AM)
Does this mean NES games won't look like shit on HDTVs now?!
Rm88~
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(03-24-2013, 04:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by BroBuzz

  • Supports NES, Famicon, SNES, Super Famicon, Genesis, Megadrive, GBA, GBC and GB games
  • Upscales to 720p with HDMI.

It has my money already.
The Broken Ska Record
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(03-24-2013, 05:00 AM)
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Color me VERY interested.
VibratingDonkey
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(03-24-2013, 05:01 AM)
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Any chance at all of this being sold in Europe ever?
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(03-24-2013, 05:01 AM)

Supports NES, Famicon, SNES, Super Famicon, Genesis, Megadrive, GBA, GBC and GB games
Upscales to 720p with HDMI.
Option to render audio "at a higher output frequency" resulting in a smoother and cleaner audio output

oh my god all of my issues with RetroN 3 sounds like they're fixed

dont let me down!
synt4x
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(03-24-2013, 05:01 AM)
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I thought they were just about to release the Retron 4? Or is this what that turned into?
Frolow
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(03-24-2013, 05:02 AM)

Originally Posted by VibratingDonkey

Any chance at all of this being sold in Europe ever?

I don't know, I'll be sure to ask them though.

Originally Posted by synt4x

I thought they were just about to release the Retron 4? Or is this what that turned into?

They renamed it 5 because they added Famicon support during devlopment.
Last edited by Frolow; 03-24-2013 at 05:05 AM.
Drago
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(03-24-2013, 05:04 AM)
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This sounds INCREDIBLE

Color me very interested.
Sojgat
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(03-24-2013, 05:04 AM)
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I want one.
thekonamicode
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(03-24-2013, 05:14 AM)
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Customizable aspect ratios with HDMI support.

Nice.
Tashi
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(03-24-2013, 05:19 AM)
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Holy shit this is awesome. Crowd was weak. Guy was dropping megatons left and right and there was no reaction.
Zane
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(03-24-2013, 05:20 AM)
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Will it support SA-1 games like Mario RPG and Kirby SuperStar?
Orayn
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(03-24-2013, 05:20 AM)
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Interesting controller design. We need more clicky thumb joysticks like the Neo Geo CD and Neo Geo Pocket Color!
NintendoGal
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(03-24-2013, 05:24 AM)
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Actually it's the RetroN 4 and it was revealed before they announced it the next day.

Proof: http://gametista.com/2013/03/04/excl...ron-4-details/

What this is, is the official reveal of what it will look like and a few more details.
baphomet
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(03-24-2013, 05:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by NintendoGal

Actually it's the RetroN 4

This is the 5 that's being announced. Probably the same thing, but it's not the 4.
sixteen-bit
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(03-24-2013, 05:28 AM)
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Jesus Christ that controller.
Kai Ozu
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(03-24-2013, 05:29 AM)
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I hope the sound is better.
IrishNinja
(03-24-2013, 05:29 AM)
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well, this is pretty interesting - ive got genesis & snes on s-video (still looking into upscalers) but i gotta know about compatibility here, first thing.

save states, region free, overclocking...there's a lot to like here! i hope they get the sound right on the genesis, many emulators did not.

id still need said genesis for cd/32x, but man id love to see someone do one of these including turbo and other systems later.

Originally Posted by sixteen-bit

Jesus Christ that controller.

no good? i can never eyeball these things, gotta get a hands-on for me to know anything personally
NintendoGal
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(03-24-2013, 05:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by baphomet 666

This is the 5 that's being announced. Probably the same thing, but it's not the 4.

Looks like they decided to change the name then, but this is for all purposes the 4 that was announced previous to this event.
Bgamer90
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(03-24-2013, 05:30 AM)
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I might get this.

Very convenient. No need to have multiple systems hooked up to different TVs or multiple systems hooked up to the same TV; the former though being due to new TVs not coming with that many inputs outside of HDMI.

Under $100 too? Yeah, definitely interested.
Last edited by Bgamer90; 03-24-2013 at 05:37 AM.
thekonamicode
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(03-24-2013, 05:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by NintendoGal

Looks like they decided to change the name then, but this is for all purposes the 4 that was announced previous to this event.

It's the 5 now because they are adding Famicom compatibility with a fifth cartridge slot.

Surprise announcement!
IrishNinja
(03-24-2013, 05:36 AM)
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any chance for USB, you guys think? id love to save the $ on an expensive SNES flashcart mostly for fan-made games.
Anth0ny
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(03-24-2013, 05:46 AM)
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Less than $100 for all that?

Damn.
Alfredo
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(03-24-2013, 05:48 AM)
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I always passed on these things 'cause it looked dumb, aesthetically. That render doesn't look too bad, though (aside from the controller, lol). Features sound pretty neat.
Fine Ham Abounds
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(03-24-2013, 05:50 AM)
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I love the idea, but I can't gwt excited until I read hardware impressions.

Also, the controller looks terrible. Make an SNES controller with 6 face buttons.

Originally Posted by Orayn

Interesting controller design. We need more clicky thumb joysticks like the Neo Geo CD and Neo Geo Pocket Color!

If it is like those, it'll be alright, but I still want a directional pad.
Last edited by Fine Ham Abounds; 03-24-2013 at 05:53 AM.
Drago
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(03-24-2013, 05:52 AM)
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I would be able to plug in controllers from other systems right? You were able to do that with the 3.
Persona7
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(03-24-2013, 05:53 AM)
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Oh nice, it has HDMI and regular composite.

I want to try this on my old SDTV setup I have for my Wii and older consoles.
Meier
(03-24-2013, 05:54 AM)
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How is this legal? Seems no different than stuff in those mall kiosks that Nintendo shuts down.
scitek
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(03-24-2013, 05:56 AM)
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Sounds pretty cool. It'll have a UI to navigate with a home button and everything. Save states, HDMI, remappable controller layouts that can be saved, 6 controller ports... I'll keep an eye on this.

Originally Posted by Drago

I would be able to plug in controllers from other systems right? You were able to do that with the 3.

Yep. You can even use controllers with other systems, i.e. a SNES controller with Genesis games, etc.
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(03-24-2013, 05:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Meier

How is this legal? Seems no different than stuff in those mall kiosks that Nintendo shuts down.

Because it doesn't come with pre-loaded games.
Persona7
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(03-24-2013, 05:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Meier

How is this legal? Seems no different than stuff in those mall kiosks that Nintendo shuts down.

I don't see any software piracy.

Why would it be illegal?
IrishNinja
(03-24-2013, 05:59 AM)
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also, if the wireless controller ends up being shit, that'd be a shame, but ive a tone of SNES and 6-button genesis controllers about.

weird that you can play genesis but not master system, though.

do these guys usually do good work? so want this, but i gotta get impressions, and again, compatibility talk. i like that the presentation just mentioned FX chips working, for one.
Iron Badger
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(03-24-2013, 05:59 AM)
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What no Neo Geo support?
Gunsmithx
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(03-24-2013, 06:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by IrishNinja

also, if the wireless controller ends up being shit, that'd be a shame, but ive a tone of SNES and 6-button genesis controllers about.

weird that you can play genesis but not master system, though.

In the article they say its an issue sourcing the pin connectors
Dark Schala
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(03-24-2013, 06:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kai Ozu

I hope the sound is better.

Yeah, that's pretty much what's holding me back. I hope it sounds better.
Goldmund
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(03-24-2013, 06:01 AM)
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So this is hardware emulation? I wonder what SNES games sound like on this thing.
Chairhome
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(03-24-2013, 06:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Drago

I would be able to plug in controllers from other systems right? You were able to do that with the 3.

Yeah, it says up in the OP that there are 2 ports for each system.

This is going to be awesome. Gonna buy a bunch of GBA games for my kids for cheap and throw them on this thing.
NintendoGal
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(03-24-2013, 06:04 AM)
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If you guys have any thoughts and wishes, let me know. I'm in direct contact with the folks at Hyperkin and can pass on suggestions and such.
IrishNinja
(03-24-2013, 06:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gunsmithx

In the article they say its an issue sourcing the pin connectors

ah, watching the presentation but havent read that yet...i guess i cant just plug my power base converter in, heh

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Yeah, that's pretty much what's holding me back. I hope it sounds better.

was audio an issue in the previous versions?

Originally Posted by NintendoGal

If you guys have any thoughts and wishes, let me know. I'm in direct contact with the folks at Hyperkin and can pass on suggestions and such.

nice! all i can think of is USB (video says right now it's only for charging the controller), and tossing a turboduo in there, haha
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johnsmith
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(03-24-2013, 06:10 AM)
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This sounds too good to be true. What's the catch?
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(03-24-2013, 06:10 AM)

Originally Posted by NintendoGal

If you guys have any thoughts and wishes, let me know. I'm in direct contact with the folks at Hyperkin and can pass on suggestions and such.

How is the audio of NES, SNES and Genesis games compared to RetroN 3? On the RetroN 3... NES sounded okay, a bit inaccurate though, meanwhile SNES games sounded really distorted and Genesis games had unbalanced volumes between channels. I hope they're mostly fixed in this!

Oh and how is the imagine quality of the games on 720p HDTVs? Better than S-Video? I'll seriously gladly replace my RetroN 3 for this if many of these issues are fixed!


Originally Posted by IrishNinja

was audio an issue in the previous versions?

yeah, it was pretty inaccurate. NES/Genesis sounded acceptable but the SNES sounded absolutely awful at times.
Last edited by qq more; 03-24-2013 at 06:13 AM.
Orayn
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(03-24-2013, 06:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Goldmund

So this is hardware emulation? I wonder what SNES games sound like on this thing.

It's built around an ARM5-based SoC...
EDIT: ...Which would suggest software-based? But the article also goes on to say that they had to source a lot of really old chips for it too. I dunno.

http://slashdot.org/topic/cloud/retr...ssic-consoles/
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NintendoGal
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(03-24-2013, 06:15 AM)
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I don't have the answers as of yet, but like I said I can pass these along.
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(03-24-2013, 06:17 AM)

Originally Posted by NintendoGal

I don't have the answers as of yet, but like I said I can pass these along.

Thanks! I really appreciate it because the audio was a major issue for SNES games.
ShockingAlberto
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(03-24-2013, 06:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by NintendoGal

If you guys have any thoughts and wishes, let me know. I'm in direct contact with the folks at Hyperkin and can pass on suggestions and such.

No HDCP, right? My main interest in this would be for recording.
DRG
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(03-24-2013, 06:25 AM)
Can you plug in original NES controllers with this? I know with some of these retro consoles you can't, or it only lets you use a Super Nintendo controller.

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