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Toma
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(02-26-2013, 10:56 PM)
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https://twitter.com/BriProv/status/306488818578620416

RCR dev + Zeboyd retweet:

Originally Posted by RCR dev

Indies should definitely jump onto the PS Vita. RCR's sold much more on PSN than XBLA and more on PS Vita than even PS3.

Originally Posted by RCR dev

@psnstores This doesn't include PS Plus. It's _SOLD_ far more on PSN than XBLA. With PS Plus, there are a bajillion more copies out there

Originally Posted by RCR dev

@werezompire Steam's done far better than XBLA too, but PSN has still done the best.

Originally Posted by Zeboyd

Robert Boyd ‏@werezompire
@BriProv Looks like we need to get our RPGs on Vita then. :)

Originally Posted by RCR dev

Brian Provinciano ‏@BriProv
@mschimen Sony promoted the game incredibly well and Vita players are hungry for games! Make them more!


Zeboyd reaching out to Sony:


Robert Boyd ‏@werezompire
Apparently RCR sold better on PSN (especially Vita) than Steam or XBLA. @ShaneWatch we need to talk. :)

Shane Bettenhausen @ShaneWatch
@werezompire emailing!

Originally Posted by slash000 (Zeboyd in this thread)

I believe Brian Proviciano is doing a talk at GDC about this subject, according to his twitter feed it seems. Link: http://schedule.gdconf.com/session/1...atform_at_Once

He seems very passionate about letting people know how his experience has been on the various platforms, and that what was once true 4 years ago isn't necessarily true now (about which platforms are the biggest/easiest to work with / generate the most revenue / etc). He seems to indicate that his dealings with Sony (and Nintendo and Valve) were extremely smooth and not overly burdensome or unnecessarily complicated.

Let's just say that hearing these things has stirred us at zeboyd a bit and we're going to take a far more serious look into these things that Brian has brought up. :)

Polytron (Makers of FEZ) getting in on that retweeting action:

Originally Posted by Polytron

Nick Suttner ‏@nsuttner
Btw, indie devs: we're open, friendly, and we want you making games on ALL of our platforms. Hit me up and we'll get you started. Please RT!

Originally Posted by Polytron

Brian Provinciano ‏@BriProv
Indies should definitely jump onto the PS Vita. RCR's sold much more on PSN than XBLA and more on PS Vita than even PS3.

Developers also seem to get to the conclusion that this console is pretty nice to work with, here is an interview with the Just Add Water guys who made Strangers Wrath HD:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...station-vita_8

All that on top of the news a while ago about games on Vita selling more than PS3 generally:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514891

Digital business is the faster growing business," Yoshida said. "We do not publish numbers, but every month it's almost a new record that the purchase on Vita is higher than the PS3, because everything is available [digitally].""]"Digital business is the faster growing business," Yoshida said. "We do not publish numbers, but every month it's almost a new record that the purchase on Vita is higher than the PS3, because everything is available [digitally]."

So what are the implications of this? Indie games selling better on Steam or XBLA? Vita users have apparently a very sizeable buying power. This means devs make money on Vita, and therefore means more devs developing for Vita. The number of Indie devs that show their interest to support the Vita is steadily rising.

This also means that Vita is far from being dead, since this shows that more devs latch onto this platform since devs make MONEY on it. And if games sell well, Sony is of course making money too.

Come at me, GAF.

Update 1:

Originally Posted by Man-is-Obsolete

Some more goodies and a GAF mention

Quote:
Robert Boyd ‏@werezompire
Looks like our conversation earlier today attracted some interest at Neogaf - http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516300 … @ShaneWatch @BriProv

Michael A Cunningham ‏@FinalMacstorm
@werezompire @ShaneWatch @BriProv I'm glad that others are showing their support. Like I said, if you build it, they will come.

Brian Provinciano ‏@BriProv
@finalmacstorm @werezompire @ShaneWatch definitely!

Michael A Cunningham ‏@FinalMacstorm
@BriProv @werezompire @ShaneWatch Vita owners are the hardcore, so support them and they will support you.

bryan @ muteki ‏@mutekicorp
@FinalMacstorm @BriProv @werezompire @ShaneWatch Here's hoping!

Michael A Cunningham ‏@FinalMacstorm
@mutekicorp @BriProv @werezompire @ShaneWatch Just need the right backing to get noticed.
Michael Cunningham is Editor in Chief of RPGamer among other things. Sorry if that is hard to follow, but it is twitter.

Last edited by Toma; 02-27-2013 at 02:07 PM.
Oddduck
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(02-26-2013, 10:57 PM)
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PS Vita would be an amazing platform for indies.
darkwing
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(02-26-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Rocketbirds is a pretty cool game
bumpkin
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(02-26-2013, 10:58 PM)
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My only complaint is that the Vita SDK is Windows-only. I don't want to buy a PC and I don't want to taint my Mac with Windows in any form. Rock and a hard place; living and dying by the sword.
MikeE21286
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(02-26-2013, 10:58 PM)
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Vita is a captivated audience ready for good games.

That's what I take out of it.

Also, in all seriousness, the competition on the Vita is much different than it is on Steam or XBLA, so it's easier for games like RCR to be noticed.
Skyzard
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(02-26-2013, 10:58 PM)
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I only buy indie games on handhelds now anyway, they're a perfect match - preferably on Vita when it benefits a decent amount from proper controls. I'm rarely going to turn on the PS3/PC to play an indie these days.

RCR was even out on Vita like a month after everything else, after a quite a few negative experiences as well, pretty impressive. I did imagine it suiting the Vita perfectly when I saw the trailers for it ages before release though, so I can understand it. Took ages to come to EU as well.
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Darknight
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(02-26-2013, 10:59 PM)
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I really wanted to actually, you know, buy the damn game to own. PS+ doesnt let me do that. Sorry dev, -1 sale from me. Not that it matters but its irritating.

/end PS+ Rant
Toma
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(02-26-2013, 10:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Oddduck

PS Vita would be an amazing platform for indies.

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip Runner 2
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis
Divekick
Guacamelee!
Luftrausers
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee New N' Tasty!
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee HD

Kick Beat
Thomas was alone
Putty Squad
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Alextended
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(02-26-2013, 10:59 PM)
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I was so disappointed in this game after being super hyped about it previously.

It just didn't grab me by my nostalgia and fun balls like it seemed it could do.

I'm sure it will find some success on Vita though. It's a game.

Edit: well, this quickly devolved into bring x game on Vita please thread, as usual...
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Derrick01
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(02-26-2013, 11:00 PM)
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I think it was yoshida the other day who said Vita downloads are higher than on PS3, so we apparently buy stuff.
Afrit
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(02-26-2013, 11:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by darkwing

Rocketbirds is a pretty cool game

yes, Silly game but I like it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76PB78yg4N0
M3d10n
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(02-26-2013, 11:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by bumpkin

My only complaint is that the Vita SDK is Windows-only. I don't want to buy a PC and I don't want to taint my Mac with Windows in any form. Rock and a hard place; living and dying by the sword.

VMware.
shinkansen.3000
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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PSM SDK is around $100 right? How many restrictions are in place?
If one wanted, could he/she make a full Vita indie game with just that?
BosSin
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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A glimmer of hope in the dark coffin that is the Vita.

I'll just play Final Fantasy Tactics and Persona 4 for the first time on it while waiting for more games
Toma
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alextended

I was so disappointed in this game after being super hyped about it previously.

It just didn't grab me by my nostalgia and fun balls like it seemed it could do.

Yeah, I didnt like the game either, but this thread isnt meant to discuss the quality of the game. Its about how games actually sell very well on this console. And even though I didnt like RCR, this actually makes me want to support the dev.

Originally Posted by Derrick01

I think it was yoshida the other day who said Vita downloads are higher than on PS3, so we apparently buy stuff.

I would put that in the OP, could you link me?
JWong
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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I would've bought it if I wasn't on PSN+.

Glad it's doing well irregardless of it.
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Really pleased to read this earlier. Hopefully some more indies dip a toe in the water and find success. Low prices and small file sizes make for an attractive combo on an expensive handheld with expensive memory.

Originally Posted by Derrick01

I think it was yoshida the other day who said Vita downloads are higher than on PS3, so we apparently buy stuff.

The device is a joy to use, it's making me buy and try games I'd almost certainly skip on other platforms.
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis

tamaster92
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(02-26-2013, 11:01 PM)
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Now it just needs FTL, minecraft, terraria...

But yeah it's a indie game haven
batman2million
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(02-26-2013, 11:02 PM)
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I'm just itching to find a reason to get this. Having great indies would be huge plus for me.
BosSin
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Originally Posted by Derrick01

I think it was yoshida the other day who said Vita downloads are higher than on PS3, so we apparently buy stuff.

It's because Vita games are so scarce in retail
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(02-26-2013, 11:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Frozen Synapse

Damn, this is awesome. Loved the PC version but will definitely play it more being on a handheld. Perfect game to play at your leisure.
Pachterballs
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(02-26-2013, 11:02 PM)
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Bu bu bu it's dead. This is great news for the platform
Derrick01
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Originally Posted by Toma


I would put that in the OP, could you link me?

I think it was its own thread but I'll try to find it anyway.
Skyzard
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(02-26-2013, 11:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis

Anyone know happened to Eufloria HD? It was announced so long ago, I ended up getting it on my Note II (android) which is a great fit. Good game for a semi-long, chilled journey.
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Alec2DaBreen
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Oh my God I would pay $20 per RPG that Zeboyd puts out on Vita.
Rad-
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The game suits handhelds very well so I'm not surprised. Maybe slightly surprised that the PC version didn't sell that well (in comparison).

XBLA version's sales are pretty obvious. It came later and people had already heard that it just wasn't that good of a game -> dead hype.
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I'd love to replay Cthulhu Saves the World on my Vita
Toma
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(02-26-2013, 11:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigboss370

Originally Posted by chixdiggit

Damn, this is awesome. Loved the PC version but will definitely play it more being on a handheld. Perfect game to play at your leisure.

This was the announcement thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511164

:)
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip Runner 2
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis

I didn't mean Vita isn't already an amazing place for indies.

I just mean I hope they keep it up with the indie support.
CaptainTiptop
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Someone get me Terraria and FTL plz.

Pretty sure the Zeboyd guy is a GAFfer. Hopefully he does bring his games to Vita, pretty please. ;)
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Can't believe I'm saying this but I think I'm going to get a Vita over an iPhone. O.O The combination of Gaikai, PS4 & indie is irresistible. :3
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So GAF what indies should I be playing on my Vita? I'll pick up Hotline Miami and Binding of Isaac day one (I promise).
Genki
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis

Divekick (!!!)
Guacamelee!
Luftrausers
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee New N' Tasty!
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee HD

A few more. Dustforce might happen:

Originally Posted by Genki

So I sent a mail to the developers of Dustforce about Vita, got this response:

Yeah, the Vita does seem to be a pretty good platform for Dustforce. You might see it happen sometime this year possibly.

Last edited by Genki; 02-26-2013 at 11:08 PM.
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Originally Posted by Darknight

I really wanted to actually, you know, buy the damn game to own. PS+ doesnt let me do that. Sorry dev, -1 sale from me. Not that it matters but its irritating.

/end PS+ Rant

Never thought of that - the BUY option is not there. But no offense, that is a really weird use case. Any rational consumer would play the game til plus ran out and then buy it. Or if you really want to tip the dev, Paypal him some money :-)

Anyway, to get back more on topic, the attach rate for Vita must be phenomenal. Anecdotal, but everyone I know who has one has LOADS of game on it. We are insatiably hungry for games - feed us devs!
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nampad
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Great to hear that his game does so well. Will double dip on a lot of announced indie games. Only got them on Steam from Humble Bundle or Steamsale but most of the time I can't be bothered playing on my PC.

Was very hyped for this game on Vita and would have bought it right away if they didn't botched the EU release. After that I figured it might come to EU PS+ because it was on US PS+, got already burned with JSR.
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Vita is a dream machine for gamers, I sure hope they make a specific SDK ala PSM for it.
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Originally Posted by bumpkin

My only complaint is that the Vita SDK is Windows-only. I don't want to buy a PC and I don't want to taint my Mac with Windows in any form. Rock and a hard place; living and dying by the sword.

You can use monogame to port your game to Vita. They added a new runtime in the 8.0 version for Vita.Plus I read the PSM documentation a few days ago (I was thinking of making the leap) and it said that it basically support mono (don't remember if it was natively or emulation...I think natively.).Now with it becoming easier to publish on it every day I might change my mind about buying a Vita .
Skilletor
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Mark of the Ninja on an OLED. Oh man, those colors. I would be so down for that.
Toma
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(02-26-2013, 11:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Oddduck

I didn't mean Vita isn't already an amazing place for indies.

I just mean I hope they keep it up with the indie support.

Haha, I just needed a reason to post that list, since I thought it didnt fit quite perfectly into the OP.

Originally Posted by Genki

Divekick (!!!)
Guacamelee!
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A few more. Dustforce might happen:

Added :)
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Mark of the Ninja Vita?
I would never put my Vita down again.
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Originally Posted by Punkster_NY

Can't believe I'm saying this but I think I'm going to get a Vita over an iPhone. O.O The combination of Gaikai, PS4 & indie is irresistible. :3

For the price of an iPhone, you could probably get a Vita and a Nexus 4 if you shop around. ;)

Originally Posted by OmegaZero

Mark of the Ninja Vita?
I would never put my Vita down again.

Microsoft published. :(
SmithnCo
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That's good to hear. Isn't Hotline Miami coming to Vita? Can't wait for a portable version of that.
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip Runner 2
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis
Divekick
Guacamelee!
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...did we ever get new info on Machinarium?
AranhaHunter
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(02-26-2013, 11:09 PM)
Seems like vita is carving itself a nice niche. Those games are mainly complimentary though I feel it's what's keeping the vita talk somewhat afloat.
Toma
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(02-26-2013, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guevara

So GAF what indies should I be playing on my Vita? I'll pick up Hotline Miami and Binding of Isaac day one (I promise).

Frozen Synapse once its out.

Currently for example: Velocity, Surge, Urban Trial Freestyle, Sound Shapes, Motorstorm RC, Sine Mora, Pure Chess, Hustle Kings, Strangers Wrath.
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Originally Posted by Toma

I would put that in the OP, could you link me?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514891
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Sure would love Terraria.

Dungeon Defenders woulda been nice (like advertised) but Trendy and all that.
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Originally Posted by Afrit

yes, Silly game but I like it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76PB78yg4N0

Wait, is this game out??
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Originally Posted by Toma

Popular Indie games that have been announced for Vita:
Hotline Miami
Bit.Trip Runner 2
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
Dragon Fantasy
Lone Survivor
Velocity HD
Machinarium
Rainbow Moon
Starlight Inception
A Virus named Tom
Vektropolis
Divekick
Guacamelee!
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Oh hell, I'll have to beat the 11th lvl again, I hate it!!!