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Forever
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(08-05-2012, 07:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wario64



This got quite the reaction in the other thread. Some people were quick to jump on Kamiya for attacking the game without playing it, but I think it's clear here that he has problems with the game from a conceptual standpoint, the execution being irrelevant.

Food for thought:

Originally Posted by toadster101

:lol

Originally Posted by timetokill

More Kamiya being awesome:

The dude in the above tweets deleted his Twitter account. Come at the King, you best not miss!

Originally Posted by timetokill

Kamiya doesn't give a fuck about GAF:


...or about the game:

Originally Posted by Kusagari

Originally Posted by timetokill

Fun is over for today:

Originally Posted by -GJ-

A friend asked me to post this:

Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Originally Posted by KingItachi

It's a really slow news day http://n4g.com/news/1053214/hideki-k...just-a-rip-off

"Source: https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya
Via: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485438 "

IT'S ALL OUR FAULT

Last edited by Forever; 08-06-2012 at 02:21 AM.
Wario64
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(08-05-2012, 07:30 PM)
Kamiya to Sony: F U C K O F F
ViewtifulJC
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(08-05-2012, 07:30 PM)
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You do it
The_Hitcher89
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(08-05-2012, 07:30 PM)
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At the end of the day for me, its a conceptual rip-off of a game that is one-of-a-kind, and doesn't have many willing competitors with a rostor to make it worth copying. But they seem to have done more than just copy it. They've taken the simple framework and put their own spin on it from the first floor up judging from the changes and impressions, and its basically ignorance to not even give it a chance because it has the audacity to be a 4-player mascot brawler.
-Cade
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
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In before him backpedaling and PR statements!
TheBioLover
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
I guess he has a problem with most FPS and fighting games?
JehutyRunner
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
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Well, that rules out Bayonetta/Jack for PSASBR.
keit4
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
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He is right.
ScraftyDevil
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
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Sammy Samusu
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
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He is a mess. :lol
KillerTravis
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
He is not wrong.
ApolloJoh
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(08-05-2012, 07:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

You do it

I know.
Loudninja
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Sorry I atleast expect someone to play a game before they try to make such claims.

I dont think that's unreasonable.
Kusagari
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Kamiya is right.

I mean some of the specials are almost direct ripoffs.
Schobeleth
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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I have immense respect for that man but I don't like that he calls it a rip off. I'll politely agree to disagree with him. Just because something is in the same vein as something else doesn't mean it is a rip off.. It's different enough to make it awesome and fun, while All-Stars is its own unique thing.
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Shots Fired! XD
ZoddGutts
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Lost interest in the game after the reveal of the character list. Weak lineup.
zroid
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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You just had to :|
Duffyside
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Cade

In before him backpedaling and PR statements!

This won't happen. The first, that is. Kamiya's word is bond.
Nirolak
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by JehutyRunner

Well, that rules out Bayonetta/Jack for PSASBR

Sega has thrown Platinum off a cliff at this point so I don't think Platinum has much influence on the IPs anymore. :P

That said the games didn't do well so I don't expect us to ever see the IPs again.

Edit:

Though contemplating this, it does make the inclusion of Dante and Raiden from Rising rather amusing.
Beth Cyra
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Wow.

Honestly thought this would be contained to the Twitter thread. Just one dude giving his opinion on the game and now is going to be used as a flame war.
Adam Prime
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Games Industry, brah. That's how it works. We take your good idea and turn it into our good idea.
Meccanical
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
It is a rip off.

Anyone who says otherwise is seriously a fanboy.

Granted that doesn't mean it can't be a fun rip off.
AAK
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(08-05-2012, 07:32 PM)
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Not a fan of PSBAR either. Playstation was immoratlized by all the games which pioneered 3D gaming. Then they go on to make it a 2D game.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN A 3D GAME!!!
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Kamiya's all future PlayStation games CANCELLED.
GSR
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(08-05-2012, 07:33 PM)
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Hideki Kamiya annoyed on Twitter, tells Sony to use its own brain
Napalm_Frank
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(08-05-2012, 07:33 PM)
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he is wrong
JABEE
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It's a mascot brawler. I've played both and they don't really feel the same at all. Fighting games are very similar, but differentiate themselves in their systems and the way the game is played. All Stars is no rip-off.
darkside31337
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(08-05-2012, 07:33 PM)

Originally Posted by JehutyRunner

Well, that rules out Bayonetta/Jack for PSASBR.

They aren't going to put in characters into the game that nobody has ever heard of.
Data West
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(08-05-2012, 07:33 PM)
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Shouldn't be be working on his game? What's up with Japanese devs on Twitter all day
-Cade
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(08-05-2012, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Duffyside

This won't happen. The first, that is. Kamiya's word is bond.

Don't know much about the guy, just seems like every time something like this happens it's only a day or two (sometimes only a few hours!) before we get PR statements and claims of mis-wording. :P
Duffyside
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(08-05-2012, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loudninja

Sorry I atleast expect someone to play a game before they try to make such claims.

I dont think that's unreasonable.

I think it's totally unreasonable to say people have to play games to decide they're not interested, or that they are. Yes, he might think differently once he played it, but that doesn't mean he can't have an opinion now, nor that it might not be true in the end.

And I'm really looking forward to PSBR; but I get the harsh criticisms.
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(08-05-2012, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by TruePrime

Wow.

Honestly thought this would be contained to the Twitter thread. Just one dude giving his opinion on the game and now is going to be used as a flame war.

It's okay, let the Xbox fanboys have some fun.
Drago
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(08-05-2012, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Napalm_Frank

he is wrong

Yup

It looks like a ripoff at first glance but gameplay is quite different
stilgar
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(08-05-2012, 07:34 PM)
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So you made it, eh?
Anteater
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Btw he said Streets of Rage is a ripoff of Final Fight too, just for reference regarding his definition of rip-off
Desmond
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(08-05-2012, 07:35 PM)
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Bayonetta, Vanquish, plus a plethora of Shooters and Fighters are also conceptual rip offs.
GDGF
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(08-05-2012, 07:35 PM)
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Kamiya is pretty good friends with Sakurai, correct?

(of course you could probably say that about the majority of the japanese games industry)
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(08-05-2012, 07:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Cade

Don't know much about the guy, just seems like every time something like this happens it's only a day or two (sometimes only a few hours!) before we get PR statements and claims of mis-wording. :P

No, you definitely don't know much about Kamiya :(
GuardianE
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(08-05-2012, 07:35 PM)
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Can't argue with Kamiya.
Zefah
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(08-05-2012, 07:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Dragonzord

Shouldn't be be working on his game? What's up with Japanese devs on Twitter all day

I'll never understand comments like this.

Have you ever had a job?
KillerTravis
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(08-05-2012, 07:36 PM)
Come on guys, how can you say it's not a concept ripoff? Did you honestly think Superbot came up with the idea on their own? Being a ripoff and being a fun game are two different things. Seems Kamiya just dislikes unoriginal ideas.
SpacePirate Ridley
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(08-05-2012, 07:36 PM)
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But you know, he is totally right.
Its a rip off, even sony knows that by putting the name super smash bros on their youtube tag videos.
chertipros
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(08-05-2012, 07:36 PM)
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I wouldn't say it's a ripoff, but it definitely was inspired heavily by super smash brothers. And there is no denying that. And just to play devils advocate, viewtiful joe red hot rumble was a "super smash bros ripoff" too. Was he involved in that?
ffdgh
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(08-05-2012, 07:36 PM)
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hmm netural..., but it would cool if he gave it a shot in the future.
King of the Potato People
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(08-05-2012, 07:37 PM)
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It is a ripoff but that doesn't mean it's a bad ripoff.
DMPrince
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(08-05-2012, 07:37 PM)
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he should rip off on making a profit.
ScraftyDevil
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(08-05-2012, 07:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by KillerTravis

Come on guys, how can you say it's not a concept ripoff? Did you honestly think Superbot came up with the idea on their own? Being a ripoff and being a fun game are two different things. Seems Kamiya just dislikes unoriginal ideas.

Derrick01
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(08-05-2012, 07:37 PM)
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I don't like him but I can't argue with him too much here. He's more right than wrong.
BlackIronCount
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(08-05-2012, 07:37 PM)
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hahaha lol

this man is amazing!

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