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SCULLIBUNDO
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(10-06-2017, 11:27 PM)
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http://deadline.com/2017/10/oscars-w...ay-1202183437/

Deadline has learned a letter is going out to the 8427 members of the Academy Of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences offering them a specially made screener in 4K Ultra

Makes sense for Dunkirk.
Discotheque
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(10-06-2017, 11:28 PM)
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good, its silly going the old DVD route. though I imagine a lot of the academy is full of luddites.

this movie looks gorgeous too, should be seen in HD.
jwk94
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(10-06-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Wait, why does this make sense for Dunkirk?
SCULLIBUNDO
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(10-06-2017, 11:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

Wait, why does this make sense for Dunkirk?

Because it's a visual/audio ride first and foremost. Like Gravity.
ClosingADoor
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(10-06-2017, 11:30 PM)
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Wait, they are still sending out DVD for this stuff normally? Not Blu-ray?
Syriel
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(10-06-2017, 11:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by ClosingADoor

Wait, they are still sending out DVD for this stuff normally? Not Blu-ray?

Yup. DVD has been the standard for years. Maximum compatibility.
Mushroomer25
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(10-06-2017, 11:31 PM)
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Unless they also send a DVD copy or a UHD Blu-Ray player, I'm going to say this backfires. The Oscar voting block doesn't seem hip enough to have a top-end Blu-ray player at the ready. This probably ends with a lot of people wondering why WB sent them a broken DVD.
DogDude
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(10-06-2017, 11:33 PM)

Originally Posted by jwk94

Wait, why does this make sense for Dunkirk?

Did you see that shit in Imax? Incredible
Master_Of_Illusion
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(10-06-2017, 11:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mushroomer25

Unless they also send a DVD copy or a UHD Blu-Ray player, I'm going to say this backfires. The Oscar voting block doesn't seem hip enough to have a top-end Blu-ray player at the ready. This probably ends with a lot of people wondering why WB sent them a broken DVD.

Then they should learn.

If you're part of the voting academy, it should be obligated of you to keep up with movie technology.
DogDude
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(10-06-2017, 11:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Mushroomer25

Unless they also send a DVD copy or a UHD Blu-Ray player, I'm going to say this backfires. The Oscar voting block doesn't seem hip enough to have a top-end Blu-ray player at the ready. This probably ends with a lot of people wondering why WB sent them a broken DVD.

Sounds like they're getting responses first before just sending it out.
ClosingADoor
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(10-06-2017, 11:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Syriel

Yup. DVD has been the standard for years. Maximum compatibility.

They don't just sent both? Seems a studio would want the viewer to get the best possible format for these awards to the voters.
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(10-06-2017, 11:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Master_Of_Illusion

Then they should learn.

If you're part of the voting academy, it should be obligated of you to keep up with movie technology.

Which is a reasonable expectation, but an Oscar campaign probably isn't the time to pull that card. If WB wants the film to get maximum exposure, excluding any proportion of the voting block from seeing it is foolish.
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(10-06-2017, 11:36 PM)
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Should have sent a VHS.
Discotheque
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Originally Posted by Mushroomer25

Which is a reasonable expectation, but an Oscar campaign probably isn't the time to pull that card. If WB wants the film to get maximum exposure, excluding any proportion of the voting block from seeing it is foolish.

I doubt they're doing this in an exclusionary way. they probably ask beforehand if the voter has a 4K Bluray player.
SCULLIBUNDO
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(10-06-2017, 11:37 PM)
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I wonder what awards Dunkirk has a shot at now. They still gonna continue the joke of gifting Nolan films a sound-mixing award?
darscot
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(10-06-2017, 11:38 PM)
Well I guess it's nice it will be online in 4K when this leaks with every other Oscar screener.
Syriel
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(10-06-2017, 11:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by ClosingADoor

They don't just sent both? Seems a studio would want the viewer to get the best possible format for these awards to the voters.

Nope. Generally, the only things sent out in HD for awards are digital streaming.
Nafai1123
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(10-06-2017, 11:38 PM)
I'm sure the pirates will rejoice.
shira
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(10-06-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by SCULLIBUNDO

http://deadline.com/2017/10/oscars-w...ay-1202183437/



Makes sense for Dunkirk.

But the Academy don't watch the movies

Now you asking them to have 4k TV's with 4k bluray????
jon bones
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(10-06-2017, 11:40 PM)
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i think it's probably time for this upgrade
Sectorseven
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(10-06-2017, 11:41 PM)
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This won't be available at retail before Oscar season?
robotrock
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(10-06-2017, 11:43 PM)
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I'm sorry Deakins. One year you will get it.
Daedardus
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(10-06-2017, 11:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mushroomer25

Unless they also send a DVD copy or a UHD Blu-Ray player, I'm going to say this backfires. The Oscar voting block doesn't seem hip enough to have a top-end Blu-ray player at the ready. This probably ends with a lot of people wondering why WB sent them a broken DVD.

Wait? Who are these voters? They don't even have a regular Blu-ray player?
HomerSimpson-Man
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(10-06-2017, 11:45 PM)
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They are still using DVDs? Yeesh!
SCULLIBUNDO
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(10-06-2017, 11:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Daedardus

Wait? Who are these voters? They don't even have a regular Blu-ray player?

I know a voter. She and her husband will only watch what sound interesting when there's nothing better to do and skip the rest. They couldn't give two shits about the stuff they're sent. And will sometimes put one on in the background.
MagicWithEarvin
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(10-06-2017, 11:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by robotrock

I'm sorry Deakins. One year you will get it.

He's going to get it this year.
mariachi507
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(10-06-2017, 11:51 PM)
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But how will members of the academy be able to accurately judge the cinematography without being able to view the film in sub-vhs quality?
jett
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(10-06-2017, 11:51 PM)
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Deakins has this in the bag. Dunkirk isn't going to win anything.

Originally Posted by ClosingADoor

Wait, they are still sending out DVD for this stuff normally? Not Blu-ray?

Originally Posted by Syriel

Yup. DVD has been the standard for years. Maximum compatibility.

That and these (poor quality) screeners almost always leak online while movies are still playing in theaters, so I imagine putting out blu-rays would be a serious concern for most movie studios. Dunkirk is a somewhat special case because the movie came out during summer, and by the time "voting season" comes along the movie will be out on blu-ray officially anyway so it doesn't matter.
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(10-06-2017, 11:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by earvcunanan

He's going to get it this year.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=197094346

As soon as he was announced to be shooting the BR sequel, it was a foregone conclusion he would be winning it.
Syriel
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(10-06-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by SCULLIBUNDO

I know a voter. She and her husband will only watch what sound interesting when there's nothing better to do and skip the rest. They couldn't give two shits about the stuff they're sent. And will sometimes put one on in the background.

I hope she hooks you up with all the extras. ;)
Zenner
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(10-06-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by taken from article

“If you have the screening ability† to play this format, please opt in by October 31, 2017,”† the email states

It's DVD unless you opt in for 4K.
HStallion
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(10-06-2017, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Daedardus

Wait? Who are these voters? They don't even have a regular Blu-ray player?

You should see what a lot of them think about animation in general to see how backwards and ignorant a lot of them can be.
HariKari
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(10-06-2017, 11:56 PM)
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Movie was a bit underwhelming in IMAX. Nice to look at, but the sound mix was (as per usual Nolan) bad for most scenes. Story and execution were okay.

I can't imagine this movie playing well on a small screen like a personal TV, or this being a movie people continually go back to watch. It was very much an experience, like Gravity.
SlimySnake
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(10-07-2017, 12:00 AM)
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It's just as vapid and one note as Gravity which means it's Nolan's best chance to win over this terrible class of Oscar voters.
Roge_NES
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(10-07-2017, 12:01 AM)
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I wonder if The Academy cares about watching the films the closest way possible to how the director intended or if they just play the DVD on their TV during daytime with the windows open and MotionFlow on.
BernardoOne
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(10-07-2017, 12:02 AM)

Originally Posted by ClosingADoor

They don't just sent both? Seems a studio would want the viewer to get the best possible format for these awards to the voters.

Well, they also know that shit is going to leak inevitably, and you dont want amazing quality copies being pirated months before official bluray/digital release
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(10-07-2017, 12:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Roge_NES

I wonder if The Academy cares about watching the films the closest way possible to how the director intended or if they just play the DVD on their TV during daytime with the windows open and MotionFlow on.

motion flow.. color to shit...mismatched rgb full/limited.....i deserve these screeners not them
ZOONAMI
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(10-07-2017, 12:04 AM)
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They gonna send a uhd Blu-ray player along with it?
tbm24
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(10-07-2017, 12:05 AM)
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So academy members donít all have fucking blu ray players by now? If they are going to judge these movies from production to acting, youíd fucking hope it was judged using the best equipment around. Did they judge stuff like life of pi on a dvd? Thatís tragic.
SCULLIBUNDO
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(10-07-2017, 12:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by SlimySnake

It's just as vapid and one note as Gravity which means it's Nolan's best chance to win over this terrible class of Oscar voters.

To be fair, this view that audio-visual-heavy films lack artistry, or that visual effects aren't worthy of praise is getting kind of sad considering the medium that film is.
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(10-07-2017, 05:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by HStallion

Should have sent a VHS.

Or a Laserdisc.
WillyFive
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(10-07-2017, 05:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by SlimySnake

It's just as vapid and one note as Gravity which means it's Nolan's best chance to win over this terrible class of Oscar voters.

It's his best movie in ages, precisely because it uses some of the great expert visual storytelling elements of Gravity.
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(10-07-2017, 05:41 AM)
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I'm curious if WB is going to end up pushing Dunkirk or Blade Runner. Are they going to try for Dunkirk for BP/Director and Blade Runner for DP and set/costume production awards?
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(10-07-2017, 05:43 AM)
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If you don't have at least a blu-ray player you can fuck right off the voting list.
MrPink93485
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(10-07-2017, 05:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jarmel

I'm curious if WB is going to end up pushing Dunkirk or Blade Runner. Are they going to try for Dunkirk for BP/Director and Blade Runner for DP and set/costume production awards?

WB didn't really do any financing for BR, they only distributed in the US. They will push Dunkirk, especially since it's probably gonna play better with voters ultimately too. I'm sure BR2049 will have no problems picking up a few techs nonetheless
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(10-07-2017, 05:45 AM)
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The DVD screeners are such shit. One of my girlfriend's relatives gets them, I watched American Sniper at his place a couple years ago and the picture just looked awful.
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(10-07-2017, 07:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blader

The DVD screeners are such shit. One of my girlfriend's relatives gets them, I watched American Sniper at his place a couple years ago and the picture just looked awful.

But the packaging!

Yeah, most are still DVDs, but it is always a treat to see how they package them to give to people. Foldouts, thick printed pamphlets, etc. And, they're usually designed terribly as well. It's just neat to see what studios are spending how much on what movie with their layouts.

Edit: I don't know, but can 4K UHD be played on normal blu-ray players? Because if not, I can see a lot of people just not being able to watch the movie.
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(10-07-2017, 07:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by brianmcdoogle

Edit: I don't know, but can 4K UHD be played on normal blu-ray players? Because if not, I can see a lot of people just not being able to watch the movie.

Regular BD players can't read both the HEVC format an the tri-layer discs 4K movies are on, no.
btrboyev
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(10-07-2017, 07:45 AM)
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Itís not an Oscar worthy movie, but thatís not saying much.

FYI, I liked the movie
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(10-07-2017, 08:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by btrboyev

Itís not an Oscar worthy movie, but thatís not saying much.

FYI, I liked the movie

Agreed. Itíll probably get one.

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