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TangoAlphaLima
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(10-06-2017, 08:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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What is this shit? Smh.

notsol337
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(10-06-2017, 08:44 PM)

Originally Posted by mbpm1

I think they’re referring to president Eisenhower and his speech against the military industrial complex

Ah, that makes perfect sense then.
mreddie
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(10-06-2017, 08:44 PM)
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Propaganda is back in full force I see and that's not even getting into the 4 military shows on TV this month alone.
HeatBoost
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(10-06-2017, 08:45 PM)

Originally Posted by bronson

Is this poster implying that the dream is to create an unstoppable killer robot responsible for what amounts to genocide?

that goes on to create another, more garish, less reprehensible robot, eventually
geomon
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(10-06-2017, 08:47 PM)
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Wow, an actual propaganda comic. I thought we'd never see this again in my lifetime.
Zero315
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(10-06-2017, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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What is this shit? Smh.

Jesus Christ... they're doing PR for a fucking arms manufacturer.

Fuck off, Marvel.
ElBoxyBrown
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(10-06-2017, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by GreekWolf

Do you also flip off and spit on U.S. soldiers too? I mean, have we returned full circle to the 1960's?

They make money off of conflict.
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(10-06-2017, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by bronson

This is shark jumping moment right here.
bigjeffery
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(10-06-2017, 08:47 PM)
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I really don't see what's so insidious about this whole partnership at all guys.
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(10-06-2017, 08:48 PM)
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uhhhhh
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery



I really don't see what's so insidious about this whole partnership at all guys.

What the FUCK
Zero315
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(10-06-2017, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery



I really don't see what's so insidious about this whole partnership at all guys.

Holy shit...
ElBoxyBrown
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(10-06-2017, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10...grumman-comic/



What is this shit? Smh.

Originally Posted by bronson

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Holy shit.

Marvel, WTF?!
Sgt. Kabukiman
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(10-06-2017, 08:50 PM)
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Jesus Fucking Christ these new posters... I have no words.
Are we back in the 1940s or something? Uncle Sam wasn't available?

Edit:
someone needs to parody these shitty ass posters asap and tweet them at Marvel
Hjod
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(10-06-2017, 08:50 PM)
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This just keeps getting worse. Who thought this was a good idea?
mreddie
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(10-06-2017, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hjod

This just keeps getting worse. Who thought this was a good idea?

Ike Perlumutter
Wheeljack539
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(10-06-2017, 08:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery

On top of being pretty self evident (partnering with war profiteers = bad!), it's been explained pretty thoroughly by several people throughout this thread. If you still don't get why this is bizarrely evil, you're either not arguing in good faith or are being willfully obtuse.

All I can say is that I'm shrugging right now as I just don't see it as evil for what amounts to as an advertisement that will likely get canned after a year or so.
Beastdrowski
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(10-06-2017, 08:51 PM)
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Yeah, fuck everything about this holy shit.

Straight up trying to indoctrinate kids by using their love of superheroes as an entry point.

Do better Marvel. FFS.
Choppasmith
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(10-06-2017, 08:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10...grumman-comic/



What is this shit? Smh.

I can't believe it's so... blatant.

Originally Posted by bigjeffery

Is this supposed to be from the same comic? A war for war's sake? What a ridiculous, disgusting concept.
mbpm1
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(10-06-2017, 08:53 PM)
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you know with posters like that suddenly the dream part doesn’t seem so good
Kinyou
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(10-06-2017, 08:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery



I really don't see what's so insidious about this whole partnership at all guys.

"Hey kids, wouldn't you love to work for Iron Man?"
HariKari
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(10-06-2017, 08:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery



I really don't see what's so insidious about this whole partnership at all guys.

Disney is normally pretty self-aware of this sort of thing. What the hell happened?
obijkenobi
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(10-06-2017, 08:54 PM)
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Officially boycotting all Marvel properties until this stupid partnership is over. That includes games and movies
mreddie
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(10-06-2017, 08:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Beastdrowski

Yeah, fuck everything about this holy shit.

Straight up trying to indoctrinate kids by using their love of superheroes as an entry point.

Do better Marvel. FFS.

Simpsons saw this coming and I feel this happened around Dubya honestly



Originally Posted by obijkenobi

Officially boycotting all Marvel properties until this stupid partnership is over. That includes games and movies



It's likely one comic and i wouldn't go this far but yeah, this is fucked up.
Hjod
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(10-06-2017, 08:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by mreddie

Ike Perlumutter

Sure, that makes sense.. with how out of touch this is..
bigjeffery
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(10-06-2017, 08:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Choppasmith

Is this supposed to be from the same comic? A war for war's sake? What a ridiculous, disgusting concept.


I don't know if you're being serious or not, but that's from an issue of Punisher: War Journal, which is for my money, one of the best anti-war pieces of art ever made.

I don't know the full details, but in a bizarre coincidence I think a bunch of Punisher panels related to the new Netflix show got postponed because Marvel thought it would be tasteless in the wake of what just happened in Vegas.
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(10-06-2017, 08:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10...grumman-comic/

[IMG]https://abload.de/img/avengersngens43sjs.jpg[/IMG

What is this shit? Smh.

This is way worse than I thought based on the initial news.
ldcommando
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(10-06-2017, 08:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by obijkenobi

Officially boycotting all Marvel properties until this stupid partnership is over. That includes games and movies

Yes. I'm with you buddy. Fuck marvel.
Necro
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(10-06-2017, 08:56 PM)

Originally Posted by mbpm1

I think they’re referring to president Eisenhower and his speech against the military industrial complex

Purple gets the square
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(10-06-2017, 08:57 PM)
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Lautaro
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(10-06-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10...grumman-comic/



What is this shit? Smh.

Fuck these corporate superheroes, they remind me of Johnny Rehab in Robocop 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x56RmciCAKo
Jackpot
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(10-06-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by MsKrisp

Nice article there, pegging NG solely as an arms manufacturer and not a company that works on thousands of different types of contracts for local and federal government. Nope, no bias detected here at all

"Quick, no time to read the thread!"

How do people become so warped as to be blinded to an arms company?
ItIsOkBro
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(10-06-2017, 09:00 PM)
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why the fuck is marvel involved in cross promoting a defense contractor
Last edited by ItIsOkBro; 10-06-2017 at 09:04 PM.
Principate
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(10-06-2017, 09:00 PM)
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This is some surreal shit after watching the iron man movies. They even have the mcu designs and everything. Just wow.
hydruxo
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(10-06-2017, 09:00 PM)
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Even disconnected from the absolutely atrocious timing of this, it would still be a head scratcher at any other time. I mean honestly...what in the world lmao
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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(10-06-2017, 09:01 PM)
The biggest nerd culture-military industrial complex crossover since Lockheed Martin made Virtua Fighter 2.
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(10-06-2017, 09:01 PM)
Whelp. I'm done with Marvel and Disney forever.

Way to Stan for evil, Mr. Lee.
bigjeffery
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(10-06-2017, 09:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro

why the fuck is marvel involved in cross promoting an arms manufacturer

Dirty money spends just as good as normal money.
Jamie OD
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(10-06-2017, 09:01 PM)
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What in the blue hell?
Captin Quacker
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(10-06-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gemüsepizza

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10...grumman-comic/



What is this shit? Smh.

KarneeKarnay
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(10-06-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Fun side note. I almost ended up working for these guys
Choppasmith
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(10-06-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but that's from an issue of Punisher: War Journal, which is for my money, one of the best anti-war pieces of art ever made.

I don't know the full details, but in a bizarre coincidence I think a bunch of Punisher panels related to the new Netflix show got postponed because Marvel thought it would be tasteless in the wake of what just happened in Vegas.

My bad, I'm dumb. I saw the page and was imagining that this was the start of said comic. That a literal "beast" that required wars to be fought "for wars sake" was going to have the Avengers call on their "military friends" in order to defeat it. I assume the original comic is talking metaphorically then?
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(10-06-2017, 09:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by bigjeffery



I really don't see what's so insidious about this whole partnership at all guys.

This doesn't make any fucking sense. At all.
shira
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(10-06-2017, 09:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by obijkenobi

Officially boycotting all Marvel properties until this stupid partnership is over. That includes games and movies

.

You boycotting Disney and Star Wars as well? Same House of Mouse
Nesotenso
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(10-06-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

Rich Johnston is a master of the clickbait.

While there is a discussion to be had here regarding the ethics in partnering comic characters with companies that make military aircraft, I have no doubt that the reactions in this thread would be much different if Marvel was announcing a partnership with Boeing or Airbus. Both make military aircraft as well, but people primarily know then from their passenger jets.

yup, it wouldn't be the same. And Boeing is a bigger defense contractor than Northrup Grumann

I wouldn't read a comic promoting say someone like Kraft or Nabisco or any other corporation, so I am not even remotely interested in this.

Having said that people who think that defense contractors shouldn't exist and evil entities are just deluded.
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Zap Rowsdower
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(10-06-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Choppasmith

Is this supposed to be from the same comic? A war for war's sake? What a ridiculous, disgusting concept.

No its from the final arc of Garth Ennis' run of Punisher MAX which is pretty much the best Punisher run. Its actually an attack of the military industrial complex and Frank takes on a bunch of corrupt generals that are profiting off it.
Fancyarcher
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(10-06-2017, 09:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Hjod

This just keeps getting worse. Who thought this was a good idea?

Trump supporter conservative Perlmutter, and as expected it looks like it's just the worse. Christ no Marvel.
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(10-06-2017, 09:07 PM)
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can't help but feel that shitheel perlmutter had his paws all over this

also fuck this thread for making me click a bleedingcool link
bigjeffery
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(10-06-2017, 09:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Choppasmith

My bad, I'm dumb. I saw the page and was imagining that this was the start of said comic. That a literal "beast" that required wars to be fought "for wars sake" was going to have the Avengers call on their "military friends" in order to defeat it. I assume the original comic is talking metaphorically then?

If you mean the Punisher page, then yes it's metaphorical. There's a beast (in this case the Military Industrial Complex) and it can only be fed (make shitloads of money) by the wholesale slaughter of people in pointless wars. How do you make sure the wars keep happening?

Ominym
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(10-06-2017, 09:08 PM)
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Kinda surprised Bob Iger would let this go through. I get it, money and all, but being someone that’s floated the idea of running for President on the Democratic ticket you’d think he would be more aware of the optics for himself, let alone the company.

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