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Westbahnhof
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(10-06-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by TS-08

That link pretty much says the exact thing that I told you.

Then please elaborate, not being from the US, I don't understand.
It says it's not lawful.
How is is not a criminal offense then?
Neece
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(10-06-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Looks like a third woman has come out.

Fliesen
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(10-06-2017, 04:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Westbahnhof

It's unlawful according to wikipedia.
Unwanted sexual advances in the workplace, that is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment


I think I've just been taught to not call someone guilty until the guilt is proven, which is why even with belief there, I want to see proof so justice can take place, if that makes any sense.
It feels wrong to call someone guilty without that.
That's why I think it's great a second person came forward. Terrible that there is a second person, of course.

I think you should separate "believing the victim" and "pursuing justice against the perpetrator". It's not some zero-sum game where believing the victim automatically means that charges will be pressed.

Do you really need to withhold the "I believe you, i'm sorry what happened to you" until enough evidence has been collected so the accusation would hold up in a court of law?
What's so bad with supporting a person reporting their trauma, by not immediately asking for receipts?

That kind attitude will mean many women still won't dare to report wrongdoings performed against them, because - if they have no receipts, and no corroborators, 'just' people like you will withhold their support, while those who are fans of the perpetrator will grant them a huge amount of ... "negative attention".
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Valdfellgar
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(10-06-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

Yikes. That one is worse than either of the other two. And so recent comparatively.
Metalmarc
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(10-06-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

Well there it is.
Evil Monkey DTT
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(10-06-2017, 04:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

If there was any doubt it's gone now, fuckin YouTubers man
excelsiorlef
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(10-06-2017, 04:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

And here we go.

And holy fuck that's gross
Random Human
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(10-06-2017, 04:44 PM)
Probably should update the thread title at this point.
Westbahnhof
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(10-06-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fliesen

I think you should separate "believing the victim" and "pursuing justice against the perpetrator". It's not some zero-sum game where believing the victim automatically means that charges will be pressed.

Do you really need to withhold the "I believe you, i'm sorry what happened to you" until enough evidence has been collected so the accusation would hold up in a court of law?
What's so bad with supporting a person reporting their trauma, by not immediately asking for receipts?

The person asked how one can believe and still want proof, and I explained how.
Of course, I wouldn't hound the victim for receipts.
I would be nothing but supportive.
But I am far enough removed to talk about wanting evidence in this forum without harming the victim, IMO.
I'd never even tweet this shit or question her the way you described.

On the new accusation:
Holy shit. That sex toy part.
Wtf.
clearacell
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(10-06-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

This might be it. I believe she is the girlfriend of one of his employees. This is unavoidable. He is fucked.

edit: unsubscribed.
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Fliesen
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(10-06-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

oh my god.
We went from "sleazy drunk creepy" harasser.
to "manipulative predatory" harasser.
To full on villain.

I'm so sorry for what happened to those women.

... also, i need to take a shower
Last edited by Fliesen; 10-06-2017 at 04:48 PM.
Mathieran
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(10-06-2017, 04:45 PM)
Damn I love Honest Trailers but as long as these people remain there I will not watch them.
Dalek
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(10-06-2017, 04:46 PM)
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First of all I would never watch something called “Screen Junkies”. Secondly, what an asshole.
TS-08
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(10-06-2017, 04:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Westbahnhof

Then please elaborate, not being from the US, I don't understand.
It says it's not lawful.
How is is not a criminal offense then?

The distinction is the difference between civil liability (say, you get sued for an amount of money by an individual) and criminal liability (say, a State or federal government fines and/or incarcerates you). While some states may have some broad harassment criminal laws that could potentially cover this behavior, I don't think many do and they probably wouldn't be based on the power disparity at play here. This is something more likely covered under our laws with respect to employment discrimination, which are typically civil and not criminal in nature.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
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(10-06-2017, 04:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

Ok the first one was bad but I usually don't just condemn people accused of shit with zero proof that's how they got Emmett Till.

The second one just sounded like a guy tryna hook up with a fan. Not an employee so I don't view that as sleezy.

This third one plus the first woman plus that superman rape shit is proof enough fuck that and fuck him. Actually fuck screen junkies HR department and any coworkers of his that knew about this.
Westbahnhof
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(10-06-2017, 04:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by TS-08

The distinction is the difference between civil liability (say, you get sued for an amount of money by an individual) and criminal liability (say, a State or federal government fines and/or incarcerates you). While some states may have some broad harassment criminal laws that could potentially cover this behavior, I don't think many do and they probably wouldn't be based on the power disparity at play here. This is something more likely covered under our laws with respect to employment discrimination, which are typically civil and not criminal in nature.

I see. But this new tweet would make it criminal, then? I mean, that's sexual assault, isn't it? The sex toy part.
Metalmarc
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(10-06-2017, 04:49 PM)
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April has just shared yet another on her twitter, looks like a fourth.
Inferno313
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(10-06-2017, 04:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valdfellgar

Pretend I don't know who this is Because I don't.

Sorry, Devin Faraci. The former editor-in-chief of Birth.Movies.Death (formerly known as badass digest). There were accusations that he had drunkenly shoved his hand down a woman's pants at a bar. His response was that he didn't remember that, but had a history of black-out drunkenness, and accepted her accusations as the truth. He stepped down, apologized, and went to rehab... Then it turns out that Tim Leagues, the owner of Alamo Drafthouse (which owns Birth.Movies.Death) had just given him a different job writing copy when he had supposedly stepped down and that they both kept it a secret.
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Neece
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(10-06-2017, 04:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Metalmarc

April has just shared yet another on her twitter, looks like a fourth.

Yeah.


kylecoley182
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(10-06-2017, 04:51 PM)
If any of his co workers knew about this and didn’t do anything. Fuck them. He’s done period
Keym
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(10-06-2017, 04:51 PM)
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Well. So much for Screen Junkies. I won't watch anymore as long as this guy keeps working with them.
excelsiorlef
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(10-06-2017, 04:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Yeah.

Flood gates.

Emma Bowers is a hero.
Nokagi
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(10-06-2017, 04:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

Jesus. This fucking guy. I'd say they probably fire him but isn't he like the owner/creator of ScreenJunkies? Maybe the others will force him out? Dunno but man they gotta address this like now.
Spork4000
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(10-06-2017, 04:54 PM)
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Well, Andy has officially earned milkshake duck status in m book.

Please just tell me Nick isn’t a creep too
ItIsOkBro
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(10-06-2017, 04:55 PM)
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Apparently HR's job is to silence victims and protect the higher-ups
DontBeThatGuy
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(10-06-2017, 04:56 PM)
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You give the average male just a little bit of power over someone's life and... Yeah, these shysters all need to be outed.

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Random Human
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(10-06-2017, 04:56 PM)

Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro

Apparently HR's job is to silence victims and protect the higher-ups

There’s a reason they say HR exists to protect the company, not you,
Sephzilla
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(10-06-2017, 04:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

Jesus Christ

Edit - Just unsubbed
BatDan
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(10-06-2017, 04:57 PM)
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God damn it, four victims, and HR tried to cover it up?

This will not end well for Screen Junkies or Honest Trailers
excelsiorlef
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(10-06-2017, 04:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro

Apparently HR's job is to silence victims and protect the higher-ups

Yeah HR is never your friend.

http://etherealmind.com/human-resour...-your-friend/&
kylecoley182
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(10-06-2017, 04:58 PM)
Just unsubscribed as well
Red
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(10-06-2017, 04:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by BatDan

God damn it, four victims, and HR tried to cover it up?

This will not end well for Screen Junkies or Honest Trailers

If this is true, it shouldn’t. This is the consequence of reprehensible behavior.
plagiarize
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(10-06-2017, 04:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fliesen

... also, i need to take a shower

I feel for you there. I took similarly happy pictures this summer with a guy who tried to beat his girlfriend to death with a baseball bat a couple of weeks later. Fortunately I didn't put any online.
geomon
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(10-06-2017, 04:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlackDoomShadow

Holy fucking shit why do men think it's acceptable to tell women they want to jack off to them or do sexual shit to them

Holy shit

Every single time

Give them even a little bit of notoriety and they take it way too far.
Shadowhelper
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(10-06-2017, 04:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Spork4000

Well, Andy has officially earned milkshake duck status in m book.

Please just tell me Nick isn’t a creep too

Give me a break. All these creeps are the same. Everyone knew what they were like. No one wants to be the one to put themselves on the line though.

Devin Faraci, Harry Knowles, and Harvey Weinstein. These things were open secrets.

ScreenJunkies is a house built by a wannabe rapist. I told you guys he was obviously guilty.
Kayhan
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(10-06-2017, 04:59 PM)

Originally Posted by ItIsOkBro

Apparently HR's job is to silence victims and protect the higher-ups

HR works for the company. Not you.
Tinfoilhatsron
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(10-06-2017, 04:59 PM)
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Wow. Can the woman who was sexually assualted sue the HR??? What the fuck.

Originally Posted by Neece

Looks like a third woman has come out.

Seriously. Fucking hell.
Bobo Dakes
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(10-06-2017, 04:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by clearacell


A pattern makes it more believable that what happened in this accusation could even happen. There is no evidence. I could accuse YOU, right now, of sexually harassing me via private message and I would have had just as much evidence as the woman in the OP.

The thing that bugs me about this thread is that a lot of you keep putting yourselves in the accused shoes and make him out to be some kind of victim.

"Well, maybe it was just a one time mistake."
"Well now that there's two accusations, it seems more likely that the first is true."


Even if say you're waiting for proof, you're basically just saying "well, I'll wait for his side of the story."

It's uncomfortably telling.

I get it, you like the guy, but the act of believing women isn't condemning him.
Metalmarc
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(10-06-2017, 05:00 PM)
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Wonder if andy is who Brianne Chandler was referring to back in June because she recently retweeted it saying

"learn from my mistakes" and wrote a note about her harassment

https://twitter.com/missmovies/statu...42885169815553

Also Nick Mundy posted this

I think @April13Dawn and @EmmaBowers coming forward with their statements is incredibly brave. No one should have to go through this.
Last edited by Metalmarc; 10-06-2017 at 05:02 PM.
Harmen
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(10-06-2017, 05:00 PM)
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It is so sad many women have to face creeps like this. I have no reason to doubt this story since at this point three women have come forward with similar stories.

Sexually harassing an employee will normally get you fired (I hope/think), but on a platform like YouTube this will likely end with some criticism, the loss of a collaboration/sponsor and that is it.

Originally Posted by How About No

is that so

Well, yes, this happens. The ex-girlfriend of one of my former colleagues said she was raped. It eventually turned out she cheated and had big regrets/wanted to put the blame elsewhere. Dude obviously wanted to go to the cops but she wanted to remain silent and eventually came clean. The ex of one of my friends also spread some nasty stories about him after a very ugly breakup, Later she retracted those and they became friends again. Those are the examples in my personal life.

But I figure these type of false accusations rarely, if ever, go to public and should not be used as "evidence" against (real) cases of sexual assault such as the topic of this thread.

Furthermore, I'd like to add that I have witnessed/heard about much, much more situations in real life the other way around, where someone was in fact harassing another person, predominantly men harassing women.
Dynasty
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(10-06-2017, 05:01 PM)
Another one coming out, Screen Junkies have one course of action, hopefully they do the right thing.
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(10-06-2017, 05:01 PM)
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Four stories now covering a range of creepy and outright illegal stuff. Well, I guess that's it for him. Probably won't stop here either.
Sephzilla
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(10-06-2017, 05:02 PM)
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From Nick Mundy's twitter

Originally Posted by Mundy @dickfundy

I think @April13Dawn and @EmmaBowers coming forward with their statements is incredibly brave. No one should have to go through this.

Originally Posted by Mundy @dickfundy

Stop sexually harassing women. It's not hard. Can't wait for every piece of shit that does this gets exposed for the human garbage they are.

Bobo Dakes
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(10-06-2017, 05:03 PM)
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And that's the sad part, 1 story is never enough. It's not until there are multiple accusations that people feel comfortable going "okay, NOW he's a creep."
Keym
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(10-06-2017, 05:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sephzilla

From Nick Mundy's twitter

Is he safe? I like him. :(
Carcetti
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(10-06-2017, 05:04 PM)
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Four now?

And we all know that means it's probably double that minimum if he just had the opportunities.

RIP Honest Trailers for covering it up.
Future Foundation
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(10-06-2017, 05:04 PM)
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Gimme a sec, I'll update the OP.
Pau
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(10-06-2017, 05:05 PM)
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Reminder that this floodgate would not be opened without one victim taking the first step. Very brave of her.
n00bsauce87
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(10-06-2017, 05:05 PM)
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Taking lewd photos =/= I'm available to be propositioned and/or be a sex partner

What's worse is when you abuse your power like that. That's really scummy
Puck Beaverton
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(10-06-2017, 05:05 PM)
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It's always the geeks smh

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