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Ekai
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(10-04-2017, 01:51 AM)

Originally Posted by Bounceounce

That email is nonsense, the XXX video is clearly comedic, and Fantano took a strong stance against his domestic violence situation and came down hard on the Asap Bari situation.

Given what I've known of him for years and the kind of audience he caters to and the kind of people he spends his time with, dude is hard in on alt-right bullshit. I can't not buy that it's genuine that he's that much of a shitbird.
ElBoxyBrown
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(10-04-2017, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt

A lot of the old regulars stopped but the newer ones keep posting his shit even though nobody tryna watch that shit.

This was before he opened his second channel and started getting really weird too.

Are you talking about his personal channel where he does email questions and Q&A? That channel is mostly left leaning in terms of the questions he answers.
RoyaleDuke
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(10-04-2017, 01:53 AM)
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First off this dumb motherfucker has the audacity to say that Take Me To Your Leader is a pile of shit basically.

Now you're telling me the guy who looks like he shops at Nazis R Us or Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond is a nazi?

I'm fucking shocked, bro.

Oh wait, no I'm not, because most youtubers are giant pieces of shit who probably came from the communities like the Chan sites.

Looking around it doesn't surprise me there are stans trying to defend this shit, I watched that Pewdiepie thread and saw how many people are willing to die on that hill, the hill of racist shitheads defense force.

Go ahead and die on that hill, you're only making things worse, trying to handwave away serious issues as "it's all a joke fam".

At the very least, you're ignorant or apathetic, at the very worst you're just another 4chan bargain bin nazi sympathizer.

At the end of the day, there isn't really a whole lot of difference between the two because if you're apathetic to bigotry, genocide, and child porn, you pretty much are a monster and a nazi.
robotrock
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(10-04-2017, 01:55 AM)
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Take Me To Your Leader is second to Madvillainy in the DOOM catalog. Everyone with taste knows this.
DiamondDog74
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(10-04-2017, 01:56 AM)
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Oh fuck. Seriously? I just subbed to the needle drop a month ago and love it. Like really? I'm shocked. I like his channel. Should I stay or I just.... huh.
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(10-04-2017, 01:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bounceounce

That email is nonsense, the XXX video is clearly comedic, and Fantano took a strong stance against his domestic violence situation and came down hard on the Asap Bari situation.

on one hand he could be an alt right shit bird. on the other he could have made hours of videos, talked with tons of alt right assholes, tweeted a bunch of alt right nonsense and shut down an entire youtube channel as some grand comedic act whose satire is simply too great for us to comprehend.
Sweeney Tom
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(10-04-2017, 01:57 AM)
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At this point it's more newsworthy which Youtubers aren't shitheads
Bounceounce
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(10-04-2017, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoyaleDuke

First off this dumb motherfucker has the audacity to say that Take Me To Your Leader is a pile of shit basically.

Now you're telling me the guy who looks like he shops at Nazis R Us or Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond is a nazi?

I'm fucking shocked, bro.

Oh wait, no I'm not, because most youtubers are giant pieces of shit who probably came from the communities like the Chan sites.

Looking around it doesn't surprise me there are stans trying to defend this shit, I watched that Pewdiepie thread and saw how many people are willing to die on that hill, the hill of racist shitheads defense force.

Go ahead and die on that hill, you're only making things worse, trying to handwave away serious issues as "it's all a joke fam".

At the very least, you're ignorant or apathetic, at the very worst you're just another 4chan bargain bin nazi sympathizer.

At the end of the day, there isn't really a whole lot of difference between the two because if you're apathetic to bigotry, genocide, and child porn, you pretty much are a monster and a nazi.

Or maybe his channel/spectrum of views simply isn't exactly how described, and maybe you're being extreme.
Gorillaz
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(10-04-2017, 01:58 AM)
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fucking melon just couldn't help himself smh
OrangeGrayBlue
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(10-04-2017, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by pigeon

That's fair.

I have a theory that fits all the facts, though. Maybe it deserves some consideration!

Lay it on me.
Ristifer
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(10-04-2017, 01:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoyaleDuke

First off this dumb motherfucker has the audacity to say that Take Me To Your Leader is a pile of shit basically.

Now you're telling me the guy who looks like he shops at Nazis R Us or Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond is a nazi?

I'm fucking shocked, bro.

Oh wait, no I'm not, because most youtubers are giant pieces of shit who probably came from the communities like the Chan sites.

Looking around it doesn't surprise me there are stans trying to defend this shit, I watched that Pewdiepie thread and saw how many people are willing to die on that hill, the hill of racist shitheads defense force.

Go ahead and die on that hill, you're only making things worse, trying to handwave away serious issues as "it's all a joke fam".

At the very least, you're ignorant or apathetic, at the very worst you're just another 4chan bargain bin nazi sympathizer.

At the end of the day, there isn't really a whole lot of difference between the two because if you're apathetic to bigotry, genocide, and child porn, you pretty much are a monster and a nazi.

I laughed way too hard at "Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond".
Demoskinos
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(10-04-2017, 02:00 AM)
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Well shit... I had no idea. And seeing this after I watched a video from him just a few weeks ago after the PDP controversy where he explained why it isn't cool to use the n-word and then seeing this pivot to this shitpost channel is...well. Yikes.
Sweeney Tom
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(10-04-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoyaleDuke

First off this dumb motherfucker has the audacity to say that Take Me To Your Leader is a pile of shit basically.

Now you're telling me the guy who looks like he shops at Nazis R Us or Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond is a nazi?

I'm fucking shocked, bro.

Oh wait, no I'm not, because most youtubers are giant pieces of shit who probably came from the communities like the Chan sites.

Looking around it doesn't surprise me there are stans trying to defend this shit, I watched that Pewdiepie thread and saw how many people are willing to die on that hill, the hill of racist shitheads defense force.

Go ahead and die on that hill, you're only making things worse, trying to handwave away serious issues as "it's all a joke fam".

At the very least, you're ignorant or apathetic, at the very worst you're just another 4chan bargain bin nazi sympathizer.

At the end of the day, there isn't really a whole lot of difference between the two because if you're apathetic to bigotry, genocide, and child porn, you pretty much are a monster and a nazi.

Agreed completely. I've gotten to blocking the stans on sight, makes threads a lot more readable.
ElBoxyBrown
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(10-04-2017, 02:03 AM)
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I just want y'all to know my posts are not stanning for him. I'm just confused as fuck right now.
Eidan
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(10-04-2017, 02:04 AM)
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I only recently discovered Fantano's reviews, and from the videos I'd seen on his second channel it just seemed to be his takes on whatever music news was being discussed. I'm very disappointed in the things described in the article. YouTube really is just a shit hole.
JKM78613
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(10-04-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bounceounce

Or maybe his channel/spectrum of views simply isn't exactly how described, and maybe you're being extreme.

By "spectrum of views" you mean "maybe not racist, but sure does pander to irony-clad 4chan kekistanis in the name of increased ad revenue", right?

I mean we all gotta eat, but c'mon and pierce the veil already!
robotrock
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(10-04-2017, 02:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by ElBoxyBrown

I just want y'all to know my posts are not stanning for him. I'm just confused as fuck right now.

Bro I totally pointed the "Hey SJWs" video your way sometime ago
ElBoxyBrown
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(10-04-2017, 02:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by robotrock

Bro I totally pointed the "Hey SJWs" video your way sometime ago

I saw that, and I also saw him post a vid where he's preaching progressive issues. It's like, is he learning or is he secretly trolling?
Mattlikewhoa
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(10-04-2017, 02:09 AM)
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Wait I'm confused... A channel to attract the alt-right?

They know his wife is black right?
Tomohawk
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(10-04-2017, 02:10 AM)
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I've kept up with needledrop and its off shoots a bit and I don't get the impression hes an alt righter. I remember him having a good understanding of things like racial and social justice from videos on his fantano channel. However I do sometimes get weird vibes from his meme channel, where his rail against PC culture might be something more. Personally I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that stuff, but i'll unsub if he turns up that stuff.
Ozigizo
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(10-04-2017, 02:11 AM)
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Hey guys, it's the PewDiePie defence Cycle again. First: "It's just parody, learn to take a joke you es jay double-u's"

The fans are utterly fucking jaded.

Originally Posted by Mattlikewhoa

Wait I'm confused... A channel to attract the alt-right?

They know his wife is black right?

Cause the black friend defense works SO WELL.

Lol, this is pdp/Ethan all over again.
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Bounceounce
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(10-04-2017, 02:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sweeney Tom

Agreed completely. I've gotten to blocking the stans on sight, makes threads a lot more readable.

You're really putting Fantano on level with Pedwiepie, and blocking people for taking a less than black and white stance on him?
Wow.

Considering that this was my stance on the Pewdiepie situation in a Facebook group I'm in, based on my experience as a black man, which mirrors what I said on this site:

"And one thing I can tell you is that these white boys just don't care about your feelings or care to step out of their tower of privilege to relate to how you feel about the constant slinging of slurs, beyond getting offended/flabbergasted that you'd be bothered by it in the first place.

Rather than the onus being on them to abstain from using loaded terminology such as "nigger", it's apparently on us to "stop letting the world have power" or to except their explanations as to why it's "not a big deal", especially when they have people like (redacted name of black friend I have from the group who practices this sort of "humor")to point to as back up.

The only thing they care about is breaking cultural taboos and finding new and extreme was to express their anger, it's as natural as breathing to them because it's what they were brought up around, and any reactions to their taboo breaking is "whining" while their tantrums in reaction to "SJW's" is the "nobel fight".

Casual racism isn't a thing on their register, they don't understand how unwelcome it makes black youth feel in any and all spaces, how it limits them from expiring interests/new hobbies, how it becomes ingrained in their minds, how to creates meekness and makes black youth feel confused and docile, unsure of how to react, unsure of who's their friend, unsure of how/whether they should even speak out.

He'll be unscathed from this, don't count on serious backlash, only minimizing."

It seems kind of absurd to act as though defending a music YouTuber is the end all be all of political/social issues discourse.
Chie Satonaka
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(10-04-2017, 02:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mattlikewhoa

Wait I'm confused... A channel to attract the alt-right?

They know his wife is black right?

Please, explain to the class why that matters at all.
jwhit28
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(10-04-2017, 02:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoyaleDuke

First off this dumb motherfucker has the audacity to say that Take Me To Your Leader is a pile of shit basically.

Now you're telling me the guy who looks like he shops at Nazis R Us or Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond is a nazi?

I'm fucking shocked, bro.

Oh wait, no I'm not, because most youtubers are giant pieces of shit who probably came from the communities like the Chan sites.

Looking around it doesn't surprise me there are stans trying to defend this shit, I watched that Pewdiepie thread and saw how many people are willing to die on that hill, the hill of racist shitheads defense force.

Go ahead and die on that hill, you're only making things worse, trying to handwave away serious issues as "it's all a joke fam".

At the very least, you're ignorant or apathetic, at the very worst you're just another 4chan bargain bin nazi sympathizer.

At the end of the day, there isn't really a whole lot of difference between the two because if you're apathetic to bigotry, genocide, and child porn, you pretty much are a monster and a nazi.

The difference between this and Pewdiepie is that Pewdiepie was just sitting around being himself when he decided let's broadcast some more racism and Fantano was playing a character on a side youtube channel from his main one that had some pretty liberal views. From the few videos I saw it would be like seeing the Clayton Bigsby sketch in a vacuum and then proclaiming Dave Chapellle a racist KKK sympathizer. It's not a defense, just surprising that he actually runs with the people that he presented as constantly burping and farting memelord personifications of a youtube comment section.

On second thought I guess playing it as "just a prank bro" and infantilizing it is straight out the old playbook.
Realeza
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(10-04-2017, 02:13 AM)
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You could tell from a mile away that this fuck was one of them.
What A Time To Be Alive
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(10-04-2017, 02:14 AM)
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Its a satire channel holy shit.

His actual views are way different than whats displayed on that channel and some of his tweets.

He went far a couple times he should be accused for but to say hes alt-right and shit is pushing it by a landslide imo.
GiantBombGamer
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(10-04-2017, 02:16 AM)
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Only knew this guy from his music review channel and he was an annoying tool on there, so I'm not surprised.
KibblesBits
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(10-04-2017, 02:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mattlikewhoa

Wait I'm confused... A channel to attract the alt-right?

They know his wife is black right?

Milo just married a Black Man.

Please post your notes AND show your work.

Also, regarding the news (GODDAMNIT)
kulapik
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(10-04-2017, 02:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Eidan

I only recently discovered Fantano's reviews, and from the videos I'd seen on his second channel it just seemed to be his takes on whatever music news was being discussed. I'm very disappointed in the things described in the article. YouTube really is just a shit hole.

That's his proper second channel, this was his "meme/shitposting" channel
Kelsdesu
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(10-04-2017, 02:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka

Please, explain to the class why that matters at all.



I'll wait...
Ozigizo
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(10-04-2017, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by What A Time To Be Alive

Its a satire channel holy shit.

His actual views are way different than whats displayed on that channel and some of his tweets.

He went far a couple times he should be accused for but to say hes alt-right and shit is pushing it by a landslide imo.

Case and point.

It starts with "it's just parody!"
Vigilant Walrus
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(10-04-2017, 02:17 AM)
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I never got that impression of him as being alt-right. (only know his needledrop channel, but I see he also has one called fantano)

On his main channel he has grinded alt-right pretty fucking hard. Ripping Paul Joseph Watson a new asshole.


I don't feel strong about him either way. I tend to disagree with his taste, but he has had some entertaining rants on some of his stinkpieces.
I am pretty shocked at how gross and how poorly thought up some of the articles he is yelling at clouds about.

On the other hand, I think he sets himself up to fail when he starts attacking journalists on a personal level. Writing a dumb, misinformed article doesn't warrant insults or personal attacks. I get that its part of his rant-style to get really upset, and passion is great- There just isn't any intellect or anything of use out of him frothing in the mouth. If someone who knee jerks you is making such poor arguments, then surely you can easily focus on just the arguments and tear those arguments to pieces without lowering yourself to attacking someone on a personal level. Deserving or no, it never makes someone look good.
Goatboy
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(10-04-2017, 02:19 AM)
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Some of you people... are out of your goddamn minds.
robotrock
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(10-04-2017, 02:19 AM)
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to be honest I didn't even know "alt-right" was still the term people were using. I thought we had fully gravitated toward white supremacist or nazi
Joyful
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(10-04-2017, 02:20 AM)
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like incredibly blatant satire yt channel
no he was secretly a nazi
hiding in plain sight the madman
What A Time To Be Alive
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(10-04-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ozigizo

Case and point.

It starts with "it's just parody!"

...here we go >_>
robotrock
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(10-04-2017, 02:22 AM)
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"yall know this is just my opinion right?"

bro...you took it too far this time
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excelsiorlef
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(10-04-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Dude actually made appearances with Sargon and Amazing Atheist but yes it's all satire.
Ozigizo
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(10-04-2017, 02:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Joyful

like incredibly blatant satire yt channel
no he was secretly a nazi
hiding in plain sight the madman

Man, reading posts like these is great. It's like his fans are going through stages of grief.
Puck Beaverton
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(10-04-2017, 02:23 AM)
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time to throw him in the list with south park and pewdiepie
RoyaleDuke
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(10-04-2017, 02:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by jwhit28

The difference between this and Pewdiepie is that Pewdiepie was just sitting around being himself when he decided let's broadcast some more racism and Fantano was playing a character on a side youtube channel from his main one that had some pretty liberal views. From the few videos I saw it would be like seeing the Clayton Bigsby sketch in a vacuum and then proclaiming Dave Chapellle a racist KKK sympathizer. It's not a defense, just surprising that he actually runs with the people that he presented as constantly burping and farting memelord personifications of a youtube comment section.

On second thought I guess playing it as "just a prank bro" and infantilizing it is straight out the old playbook.

The bolded highlights exactly what his plan is, it is an old tired playbook used by anyone who tries to hide, like a bully for example.

It really is that simple, and in 2017 it is that black and white, as far as I'm concerned if you don't agree you are part of the problem.

There is no time for debates anymore, there is no time for the benefit of the doubt, there is time to play detective and call people on their bullshit, and label them for what they are.

These people are purposefully disingenuous, I knew a channer in high school who would act exactly like Fantano, he fooled a lot of people until one day he decided to start goose stepping with a swastika on campus while wearing a huge pepe the frog shirt. His social media(myspace since this was around 2004ish), was filled with the "dankest" memes and "truths about people", and that one manga comic where some guy forces himself on a baby. Yeah.

I once read Mein Kampf for historical context and try to figure out how these people think. Likewise, I tried to understand why my best friend at the time loved going to these fucked up chan websites, It was a colossal waste of my time and sanity because it is madness.

Pure fucking madness. The only way to deal with this is to punch, ban, Shout down, and kick their asses out of existence.

We can't do that if we constantly have people trying to defense force the indefensible.
GiantBombGamer
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(10-04-2017, 02:24 AM)
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Also, ARTV is a better music critic YouTuber who isn't a known douchebag.
ramoisdead
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(10-04-2017, 02:24 AM)
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Not surprised at the very least that this guy is a Milkshake Duck.
Pop-O-Matic
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(10-04-2017, 02:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ozigizo

Man, reading posts like these is great. It's like his fans are going through stages of grief.

I'm pretty sure the stages of grief aren't suppose to be a never-ending loop of denial and anger...
Ozigizo
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(10-04-2017, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pop-O-Matic

I'm pretty sure the stages of grief aren't suppose to be a never-ending loop of denial and anger...

I dunno, pdp fans quickly jumped to the acceptance stage right after the live stream thing. They need an absolute to accept it, and the way this guy did it gave them a shred of deniability to cling on to.
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Cheddahz
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(10-04-2017, 02:32 AM)
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pretending to be alt-right to attract the alt-right crowd and claiming it's "satire" shouldn't be taken lightly
Bounceounce
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(10-04-2017, 02:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by RoyaleDuke

The bolded highlights exactly what his plan is, it is an old tired playbook used by anyone who tries to hide, like a bully for example.

It really is that simple, and in 2017 it is that black and white, as far as I'm concerned if you don't agree you are part of the problem.

There is no time for debates anymore, there is no time for the benefit of the doubt, there is time to play detective and call people on their bullshit, and label them for what they are.

These people are purposefully disingenuous, I knew a channer in high school who would act exactly like Fantano, he fooled a lot of people until one day he decided to start goose stepping with a swastika on campus while wearing a huge pepe the frog shirt. His social media(myspace since this was around 2004ish), was filled with the "dankest" memes and "truths about people", and that one manga comic where some guy forces himself on a baby. Yeah.

I once read Mein Kampf for historical context and try to figure out how these people think. Likewise, I tried to understand why my best friend at the time loved going to these fucked up chan websites, It was a colossal waste of my time and sanity because it is madness.

Pure fucking madness. The only way to deal with this is to punch, ban, Shout down, and kick their asses out of existence.

We can't do that if we constantly have people trying to defense force the indefensible.

I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue against that Fanatano expresses.
ElBoxyBrown
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(10-04-2017, 02:38 AM)
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I'm just gonna play it safe and unsub.

At least there's Spectrum Pulse to fall back on.
RoyaleDuke
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(10-04-2017, 02:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bounceounce

I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue against that Fanatano expresses.

Fantano is another troll who wants to normalize fascism and bigotry.

That's what I'm getting at, but keep being a Stan for this dude. I'm not you so I don't have to live with the fact that you are defending a nazi.
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(10-04-2017, 02:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ristifer

I laughed way too hard at "Bigotry, Tiki Torches, & Beyond".

Yeah that was some good stuff.

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