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darkhunger
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(09-29-2017, 12:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

I feel bad for the actors. They were probably so excited that they were becoming a part of the Marvel universe. Then it's Marvel TV. Then it's this.

At least they still have a shot at getting casted for a Marvel Studios movie playing a completely different character.
Crow Pudding
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(09-29-2017, 12:05 PM)
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I'm going to watch it with some whisky drink in my hand and crying out loud remembering the time this was gonna be a high budget movie...
BlazinSkatinAxel
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(09-29-2017, 12:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZeoVGM

The date is in the OP.

That was in jest.
berzeli
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(09-29-2017, 12:17 PM)
I'm not going to watch this.
I'm not going to watch this.
I'm not going to watch this.

...

Sigh. I'm watching this. With wine probably.
My liver is going to hate me.
(but not as much as I will hate the show).
Yager
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(09-29-2017, 12:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by DJwest

Defenders was not bad, come on now

Wasn't really good either. Just kinda...there.
SpaceWolf
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(09-29-2017, 12:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Yager

Wasn't really good either. Just kinda...there.

An accurate summation.
PHOENIXZERO
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(09-29-2017, 12:55 PM)
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I know this is going to be awful but I'm still in. Also I don't drink... I might start while watching this.
NoName999
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(09-29-2017, 01:01 PM)
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I don't know why you guys are hate watching this. Nielsen ratings doesn't differentiate between people who actually enjoy watching something and masochists.

Do you WANT to give this show a second season?
Slayven
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(09-29-2017, 01:04 PM)
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Man how they watered down some of the most interesting superpowers in comics.
RS4-
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(09-29-2017, 01:10 PM)
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I'm in for the season, no matter what happens.

I love watching garbage.
Rekwest
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(09-29-2017, 01:48 PM)
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Day one i can't wait.
Boem
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(09-29-2017, 02:03 PM)
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This is how you make an OT. Love that cast section.

I'm really curious to check this trainwreck out, but man I don't know if I want to spend 2 hours doing it. Maybe the next time when I have some friends over and we want something to laugh about.
Danthrax
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(09-29-2017, 02:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Volimar

Did...did you make up those episode names?

I pulled screenshots of the first four straight from ABC's press site for this epic television event.

They haven't listed the last four episode titles but I have to assume they all have ellipses, too.
George Oscar Bluth II
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(09-29-2017, 02:31 PM)
Scott Buck
Holtz
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(09-29-2017, 02:39 PM)
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Didn't bother with Iron Fist, won't bother with this. But i'm sure reactions in this thread will be great.
Htown
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(09-29-2017, 02:40 PM)
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First MCU thing I am intentionally not watching.

Iron Fist was pretty bad, and worse it was boring, and by all accounts this is even worse. No thanks, I'll be back at the end of the show in case something happens that would impact Agents of SHIELD and I need to know about it.
jph139
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(09-29-2017, 03:10 PM)
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I will absolutely be "watching" this while doing any number of significantly more important things.

I'm mostly curious to see if anyone even tries. Like, I can stomach crap like Iron Fist and Supergirl because I like the properties and the cast is giving it an honest effort, even if the show around them lets everyone down. But it sounds like even the cast was phoning this one in?

Hopefully Maximus gets to ham it up at least.
Fuzzy
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(09-29-2017, 03:41 PM)
This show will be a landmark!
Anoregon
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(09-29-2017, 03:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy

This show will be a landmark!

more like a skidmark, amirite
Nokagi
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(09-29-2017, 03:56 PM)

Originally Posted by George Oscar Bluth II

Scott Buck

And he's here to fuck comic book characters up
Beren the Empty-Handed
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(09-29-2017, 04:00 PM)
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I'm going to do my best to forget about it, and when it moves to Netflix after it wraps up, I'll groan and hate watch it. Or, hopefully, it never goes to Netflix and I just forget about it entirely.
StudioTan
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(09-29-2017, 04:02 PM)
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Will watch!
Violater
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(09-29-2017, 04:06 PM)
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I'm sure we have all watched worst series.
The fact that it got cancelled right out the gate puts a damper on things though.
Is the story line at least wrapped up in the single season?
Penguin
(09-29-2017, 04:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danthrax

blame Penguin for that one



luv u Pen

Your true friends stab you in the front it seems

Oh and I knew that but couldn't help taking a dig at him
fallengorn
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(09-29-2017, 04:25 PM)
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Won't be able to watch it live, but I'll hate watch it over the weekend.
Pachimari
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(09-29-2017, 04:35 PM)
Of course I'm in it for the whole run, and I'm okay excited about it tomorrow. Something to watch during the weekend.

Originally Posted by Violater

The fact that it got cancelled right out the gate puts a damper on things though.

Not saying that it won't but it haven't been officially cancelled yet. What some pundits was talking about was the "complete series" which described the season, when it's usually "complete first season."
Mix Master
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(09-29-2017, 04:41 PM)
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When marvel studios I hitting their stride, Marvel TV is jumping down the garbage shute. Iron Fist was ass, The defenders is as mediocre as Thor 2, and this show looks like hot doo-doo. Punisher looks kinda mediocre too. Sad.
Grizzlyjin
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(09-29-2017, 06:22 PM)
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On the positive side, the titles being a nod to Kirby's run is a nice touch. Iron Fist used Kung Fu techniques as episodes titles, if memory serves right. So Buck has nailed down the lost art of episode titles lol
Father_Brain
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(09-29-2017, 06:36 PM)
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The critics can't stop raving!

http://www.npr.org/sections/monkeyse...inert-inhumans

To make something from a Marvel concept this blithely, wonderfully and resolutely weird demands time and budget and — maybe most of all — commitment, and none of those three things showed up to set. There's no scale, here: Everything's hedged, hemmed-in, cramped. The script feels like a first, place-holdery pass. The sets and costumes (and in the case of Medusa, the wigs) seem rushed, flat, devoid of texture.

That's not about the design, but the execution — what should be one character's quarters in Attilan's huge cosmic space palace, for example, looks more like a Boca timeshare. You keep looking for the wicker dolphin.

And the acting? Hoo boy.

The main characters are fine. Swan improves immeasurably once she's allowed to get her knuckles dirty; as the forbidden-to-speak Black Bolt, Mount scowls and scowls and scowls, but once on Earth he gets to throw in the occasional affronted eyebrow-pop. It may not sound like much, but compared to the show's alarmingly wooden bit players, dude is liquid mercury.

(As the show's many ancillary characters deliver their lines, you'll wonder just what exactly they're doing, and why. And which producer they're related to.)

The slapdash approach evident in every aspect of production ends up mattering hugely, leaching color and life out of even the moments that work, and poisoning the ones that don't. There's a flashback involving the discovery of young Black Bolt's powers, for example, that's shocking in theory, but hilarious in execution. It's meant to strike a tragic note, but the result is emotionally closer to "Yakety Sax."

http://mashable.com/2017/09/29/marve.../#PQXeQ0P.nqq4

It's clear that the actors are trying to make the best of the clunky material they've been saddled with, but showrunner and writer Scott Buck has doubled down on all the things you hated most about Iron Fist, the last Marvel property he attempted to adapt (to great critical scorn): Slapdash, poorly choreographed fight scenes; uninspired visual effects; overwrought dialogue; and heroes so devoid of charisma, you're rooting for the giant CGI bulldog to channel Game of Thrones and chow down on all of them.

Unfortunately for Buck and director Roel Reiné, setting the show in a beautiful natural environment like Hawaii isn't an acceptable substitute for establishing a distinctive visual style, and forcing your leads to word-vomit expository dialogue isn't commensurate with character development.

https://www.vox.com/fall-tv/2017/9/2...iew-marvel-abc

In the mid-’90s, there was a surprising rise of TV shows in the network syndication space, spurred by the success of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and Xena: Warrior Princess (the latter of which, at least, is a genuinely fun show).

These shows — basically none of which you will remember, so I won’t make a big list of them — were cheap. They had to be produced quickly and at little expense because the companies creating them were primarily making money from selling them to local TV stations, which would stick them on the air in the middle of a Saturday afternoon and hope people would be too tired to change the channel. You’d watch some low-budget fantasy or sci-fi adventure and wonder how it ended up on the air.

The production values on these shows were often quite low, even when compared to something like Xena. The sets and costumes and effects were glaringly fake, and the film stock was often flat, with poor lighting only serving to make everything feel as if it had been filmed on the set of The Price Is Right between takes.

The acting was just as flat, from performers who clearly knew this wasn’t their first choice of roles and also clearly knew the show probably wouldn’t be around very long. Occasionally, a performer would spark, but the Lucy Lawlesses of the world — actors who could find a way to have fun no matter how cheesy the material — were few and far between, and whoever was directing these programs didn’t particularly care to force them to engage. Scenes would often feature bland, affectless work from performers who seemed as if they’d rather be anywhere else.

And the writing! The writing was almost always riddled with clichés and characters saying exactly what they were thinking or feeling. There was only telling; very little showing. Scripts would repeat the same basic points, over and over, as if viewers were unable to understand the point without having their hand not just held, but squeezed so tightly that all circulation to their fingers was cut off.

These shows were bad, but at least nobody really spent too much money on them. Making a TV show that fits the description above and then trying to tie it to a massive cinematic superhero franchise that dominates our popular culture — while also spending lots and lots of cash to create, say, a giant computer-animated bulldog who interacts with the characters (but whom you shuttle offscreen as quickly as possible in order to save some money), well, that would be a really stupid thing to do, wouldn’t it?

GitarooMan
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(09-29-2017, 06:39 PM)
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I just feel bad for Anson Mount, he was so good on Hell in Wheels...
Father_Brain
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(09-29-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by GitarooMan

I just feel bad for Anson Mount, he was so good on Hell in Wheels...

meh, he'll never top his starmaking turn as Britney Spears' love interest in Crossroads
Baroquemantic
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(09-29-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Sure, why not? I watched Iron Fist. Surely this can't be that awful. Surely.
Dysun
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(09-29-2017, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by GitarooMan

I just feel bad for Anson Mount, he was so good on Hell in Wheels...

At least it sounds like he didn't phone it in with the rest
rakhir
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(09-29-2017, 07:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dysun

At least it sounds like he didn't phone it in with the rest

Yeah, I don't think people will blame the actors for any of this. I mean, how can anyone blame Serinda Swan, for instance, when they made her wear that shit? And Ken Leung did great stuff in other series. They will be ok.
Zero-ELEC
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(09-29-2017, 07:13 PM)
i mean


i'll watch it
strafer
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(09-29-2017, 07:14 PM)
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isnt that Medusa hair false marketing?
BlackGhost
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(09-29-2017, 07:16 PM)
We all gonna love it.
CaviarMeths
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(09-29-2017, 07:17 PM)
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Oh right, this.

I dunno. Even as a big Marvel stan that has consumed everything MCU-related to date, I may not find time for this. This should never have happened. It could have been an Agents of SHIELD season 5 subplot handled by a pair of much better showrunners.

Critics sure are raving tho!
BeardedMan01
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(09-29-2017, 07:21 PM)
Can't wait to binge through this and cry at Scott Buck's continued career.
Kaizer
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(09-29-2017, 08:39 PM)
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I'm ready for this shit-show LOL
DeathyBoy
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(09-29-2017, 09:07 PM)
They literally could've just ripped off GOT but with Superheroes
BlackDoomShadow
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(09-29-2017, 09:09 PM)
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So wait, do the characters really refer to each other by their superhero names in this? Like "Black Bolt" instead of "Blackagon"? It's like the exact opposite of the other Marvel properties where they refuse to ever use peoples' superhero names.
Knuckle Sandwich
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(09-29-2017, 09:09 PM)
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Looks like absolute shit and I think Inhumans are lame to begin with but I gotta watch it.
Einchy
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(09-29-2017, 09:11 PM)
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I'm gonna watch this 'cus I hate myself and I deserve nothing but agony.
Htown
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(09-29-2017, 09:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Father_Brain

https://www.vox.com/fall-tv/2017/9/2...iew-marvel-abc

damn, i love this review because it's so right

this show looks like something you'd expect to come on right after Mutant X or some shit
Funky Papa
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(09-29-2017, 11:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by CaviarMeths

Oh right, this.

I dunno. Even as a big Marvel stan that has consumed everything MCU-related to date, I may not find time for this. This should never have happened. It could have been an Agents of SHIELD season 5 subplot handled by a pair of much better showrunners.

Critics sure are raving tho!

As I said at a previous thread, AoS will go down as the better Inhumans show.

And mind you, the whole alpha primitives thing was rough.
Grizzlyjin
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(09-29-2017, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlackDoomShadow

So wait, do the characters really refer to each other by their superhero names in this? Like "Black Bolt" instead of "Blackagon"? It's like the exact opposite of the other Marvel properties where they refuse to ever use peoples' superhero names.

The recent Black Bolt comic actually handled this perfectly, exactly how a TV show or movie should.

Black Bolt is in a cosmic super prison because of blah blah blah mistaken identity and tells one of the prisoners his full name, full on deadpan. The other prisoner burst out laughing but Black Bolt is stoneface cause he doesn't realize what's ridiculous about it.
Duane Cunningham
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(09-29-2017, 11:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by BlackDoomShadow

"Blackagon"

That's Blackagar. Blackagar Boltagon. (lolol)
AndersK
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(09-29-2017, 11:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Duane Cunningham

That's Blackagar. Blackagar Boltagon. (lolol)

This version is called Black Buck though.
Ricker
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(09-29-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by strafer

isnt that Medusa hair false marketing?

This is the only thing so far that I really hate from all the previews and trailer...her hair,thats suppose to be awesome, looks just awful...everything else is not making me not want to watch it...the dog looks good and so on...not saying it's going to be a great show and if it really sucks i'll eat crow but so far,I'm in...

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