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shira
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(09-22-2017, 01:53 PM)
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Art from Z-studios




DOTA 2 is a "free" game where you and 4 others kill creeps, towers, and 5 other heroes in an effort to kill their base throne before they can kill your base throne.

*Caution* this game is not free and many a GAFer has spent hundreds or thousands of dollars buying digital hats to dress their waifus and husbandos in the latest fashions

Why is the game so popular?
1. It is skillfully rebalanced every few months by the mysterious developer IceFrog to keep the gameplay fresh and rotate meta heroes/strategies
2. Rabbid fan communities all around the world
3. The most lucrative and well funded Esports presence $126 Million awarded as of Sep 22, 2017
4. A somewhat fun cosmetics economy and workshop

Although this is an Official Thread many of DotaGAF is split between here and Discord.
Also a lot of people have quit/scaled back Dota 2 in the six years since launch or just watch for the compelling Esports experience.
If you do not have the Discord link you may try to ask for it kindly.

That being said there are still plenty of people around to answer basic questions or chat about professional Dota or patch/balance changes.
If you want to chat about non-Dota gaming or anime or world news that is also welcome here, just be mindful of others and keep it civil.

IF you are new to Dota there are plenty of resources available in the next section.
IF you want to group up with people it is best to leave your Steam link and region in this thread or try joining /r/dota2pubs.
IF you are coming from League of Legends there is a handy-dandy hero suggestion matrix based on your LoL playstyle.


Saprol has made a wonderful little suite of emotes for Grease/Tampermonkey that works for Chrome and Firefox [link]
Cyborgmatt has a much leaner suite of emotes on the Google Chrome store for use on Chrome and is less CPU intensive [link]
Use emotes to cheer and give your energy to your favorite team or augment any NeoGAF post


If you want to play this game you will need to devote at least 100 hours of your life to scratch the surface of understanding the subtle nuances of this game.
It really helps to have someone explain to you how to do things because a lot of Dota things are counter-intuitive or very different from other games.
That being said you can dive right into games and pick the most OP meta heroes or you can use some excellent community resources.
The great thing about Dota 2 is that everything can work.

VIDEOS
By default almost everyone that has ever started Dota 2 has begun by watching Welcome to Dota you suck by Purge
In his newest teaching series Purge teaches total noob Day9 and covers a lot of topics, heroes, and scenarios in a simple and digestible manner.

REDDIT
/r/Dota2 is an excellent place to get news and memes but not so much for beginners.
Advice and teaching is also time based so advice from a month ago may not hold true today.

There are some excellent learning subreddits dedicated to making you a better player that is meant for beginners:
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnDota2 - Learning the game
https://www.reddit.com/r/dota2tutor - Find a tutor or students
https://www.reddit.com/r/analysemydota2 - Dota replays
https://www.reddit.com/r/dota2ndq - No dumb questions, ask any simple question
https://www.reddit.com/r/HeroBuilds/ - How to skill and itemize your hero

Once you have played a few hundred hours you will realize that solo queue is for suckers. If you want to improve further or see what 5v5 team game or Captain's Mode is like try these subreddits:
https://www.reddit.com/r/compDota2 - Looking for team/serious parties for practicing and tournaments
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2pubs - Looking for players or groups for matchmaking and inhouses
https://www.reddit.com/r/trueDota2 - Discussion and links to informative content
https://www.reddit.com/r/captainsmode - Drafting discussion and advice

Beyond these basics Dota 2 is whatever you want it to be: a grief inducing nightmare of an experience or a once-in-a-lifetime multicultural language exchange.



Dota 2 Pro Circuit - Valve's announcement and schedule
Dotabuff - Esports page
Liquipedia - Tournaments page
Twitch Dota 2 - Link to main streaming page



Non-Valve Events
Major League
$70k USD, 8 teams
7 Directs - iGV, Clutch, Fnatic, Xctn, Evos, Ehome, WGU
MY

Valve Events

PGL Bucharest - MINOR

Oct 19-22
$300k USD. 8 teams
2 Directs - EG, LGD
NA - Immortals
SA - Infamous
EU - Secret
CIS - Navi
SEA - Mineski
CN - VGJ.T

ESL Hamburg - MAJOR
Oct 26-29
$1M USD, 8 teams
2 Directs - Liquid, Newbee
NA - EG
SA - SG
EU - Secret
CIS - VP
SEA - fnatic
CN - Keen

Dota Pit 6 Croatia - MINOR
Nov 2-5
$300k
2 Directs - Liquid, Newbee
NA - Immortals
SA - SG
EU - OG
CIS - VP
SEA - fnatic
CN - VG

Perfect World Shanghai Masters - MINOR
Nov 19-26
$300k USD, 10 teams
3 Directs - LFY, Newbee, Secret
NA - Col
SA - SG
EU - Kinguin
CIS - Vega
SEA - Mineski
2 CN - LGD, VG

DreamLeague 8 - MAJOR
Dec 1-4
$1M
NA -
SA - Infamous
4 EU/CIS -
SEA -
CN - Newbee

Despite the falling Steam players Dota 2 has an insanely popular Esports following where the upcoming season will consist of eleven $1 Million dollar prize pool Majors and sixteen $300k Minor tournaments. These tournaments provide over $15 Million in prize money to players and points toward being invited to the final tournament in late Summer, The International 2018, which will undoubtedly surpass $20 Million USD in prizepool.

Dota 2 prize money surpasses almost all other Esports payouts combined as of today (Sep 22, 2017):
- 49 out of the top 50 Esports earners are Dota 2 players
- 12 out of the top 13 Esports prizepools are Dota 2 tournaments



T1 by Swag aka Sebulon3k t=158d
T2 by Artanisix t=167d
T3 by Artanisix t=126d
T4 by Artanisix t=87d
T5 by Artanisix t=69d
OT1 by Artanisix t=92d
OT2 by Teknopathetic t=81d
OT3 by Artanisix t=82d
OT4 by Teknopathetic t=57d
OT5 by Artanisix t=49d
OT6 by Teknopathetic t=116d
OT7 by Artanisix t=78d
OT8 by Teknopathetic t=88d
OT9 by Teknopathetic t=83d
OT10 by Steve Winwood t=68d
OT11 by TUSR t=81d
OT12 by Dreams-Visions t=83d
OT13 by Hylian7 t=108d
OT14 by Artanisix t=125d
OT15 by Artanisix t=415d
Last edited by shira; 10-19-2017 at 04:45 PM.
misses bull
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(09-22-2017, 02:01 PM)
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Buff techies
jediyoshi
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(09-22-2017, 02:01 PM)
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Traxex is the true dota waifu

Twookie
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(09-22-2017, 02:04 PM)
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Label
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(09-22-2017, 02:16 PM)
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Patch when?
sleverfunk
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(09-22-2017, 02:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Label

Patch when?

When it's ready. Meanwhile enjoy necro venomcancer every game!
whiskeystrike
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(09-22-2017, 02:53 PM)
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I will not stand for this, not even in a new thread

Vitanimus
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(09-22-2017, 03:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by whiskeystrike

I will not stand for this, not even in a new thread

hi whiskey
Hylian7
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(09-22-2017, 03:08 PM)
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Buff Tinker.
SecretMoblin
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(09-22-2017, 03:10 PM)
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dead game unless techies is buffed

have fun LOSING to better games like pubg and league

this is what valve gets for dumpstering techies
Hylian7
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(09-22-2017, 03:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by SecretMoblin

dead game unless techies is buffed

have fun LOSING to better games like pubg and league

this is what valve gets for dumpstering techies

I mean PUBG probably scratches the Techies itch for everyone.

Because every time you throw a fucking grenade you always end up blowing yourself up.

#1 rule of grenades in that game is just don't. 90% of the time they go wrong.
misses bull
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(09-22-2017, 03:26 PM)
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Maybe you shouldnt be a baddy and putting the grenade back into your pocket
Hylian7
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(09-22-2017, 03:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by misses bull

Maybe you shouldnt be a baddy and putting the grenade back into your pocket

It just bounces off fucking windows back into your pocket.

Hence, Rule #1: Don't.

Smoke Grenades only, all other grenades cannot be trusted.
TUSR
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(09-22-2017, 03:47 PM)
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anime rules
Drkirby
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(09-22-2017, 03:50 PM)
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So in 2 years, will we get The Last Thread 2?
Qvoth
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(09-22-2017, 03:51 PM)
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so dueling fates is gonna be 7.10 right?
Drkirby
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(09-22-2017, 03:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Qvoth

so dueling fates is gonna be 7.10 right?

I have seen this thought a bit, but why? It's not 7.0.6, its 7.0.6. That last number is going to increment for years.
Last edited by Drkirby; 09-22-2017 at 05:02 PM.
StrongArmSteady
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(09-22-2017, 04:01 PM)
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Huskar did nothing wrong!
bbd23
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(09-22-2017, 04:02 PM)
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posting in the final dota OT thread
misses bull
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(09-22-2017, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drkirby

I have seen this thought a bit, but why? It's not 7.0.6, its 7.06. That last number is going to increment for years.

8.00
sleverfunk
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(09-22-2017, 04:39 PM)
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valve should just jump the gun and allow for wild cosmetics. since they broke some rules already. gender bend cosmetics, gundam clockwork and more. imagine the profit valve!
Yazzees
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(09-22-2017, 04:55 PM)
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How long until numbers have dropped to the point where only rage-addicts remain like late-era HoN
Drkirby
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(09-22-2017, 05:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yazzees

How long until numbers have dropped to the point where only rage-addicts remain like late-era HoN

We are at least 5 years off from that I think. Its whenever Dota hits TF2 numbers.
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(09-22-2017, 05:09 PM)
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Quesa
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(09-22-2017, 05:37 PM)
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A thread a year in the making
M.D
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(09-22-2017, 05:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tart Toter 9k

We made it!

oh shit you the man

edit:

btw OG is shit now man i hope they get it together
Last edited by M.D; 09-22-2017 at 05:59 PM.
Sticky Fingers
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(09-22-2017, 06:02 PM)
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OG lul getting rekt by ildan 2-0
StrongArmSteady
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(09-22-2017, 06:14 PM)
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Monkey business and miracle liquid had shitty starts to their seasons, that being said i still expect reso to be exposed as a mediocre player in the comming months..
Phoenix RISING
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(09-22-2017, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by sleverfunk

When it's ready. Meanwhile enjoy necro venomcancer every game!

Since Necro gets banned in all my games I'm going to start picking venomancer to rage troll
Chris R
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(09-22-2017, 06:51 PM)
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wtf is the ??? at the end of the thread title?

Also, I think I might play ranked again when the patch drops...

or should I play it now, my necro isn't that good, but I can probably win a few veno games
Drkirby
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(09-22-2017, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris R

wtf is the ??? at the end of the thread title?

Also, I think I might play ranked again when the patch drops...

or should I play it now, my necro isn't that good, but I can probably win a few veno games

Shira for some reason picked the "Information Source" character, but it doesn't really render right on anything I use.

http://www.fileformat.info/info/unic...2139/index.htm
Hylian7
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(09-22-2017, 07:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris R

wtf is the ??? at the end of the thread title?

Also, I think I might play ranked again when the patch drops...

or should I play it now, my necro isn't that good, but I can probably win a few veno games

Some funny i character shira used. I guess it doesn't render right on whatever you're reading on, so you see that instead.
Artanisix
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(09-22-2017, 07:46 PM)
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nice OT FeelsGoodMan
shira
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(09-22-2017, 08:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drkirby

So in 2 years, will we get The Last Thread 2?

The Last of Us 2 themed?

Originally Posted by Tart Toter 9k

We made it!

Wowza!

Originally Posted by Chris R

wtf is the ??? at the end of the thread title?

Are you using 1980s tech?
Chris R
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(09-22-2017, 08:47 PM)
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x86 apparently came out in 1978 :O
manfestival
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(09-22-2017, 08:50 PM)
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It's amazing how many dota 2 gaming centers there are here in Peru. Like every corner there is a lan center
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(09-22-2017, 08:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris R

wtf is the ??? at the end of the thread title?

It renders for me fine on my phone, but on my desktop that i character is just showing up as the default tofu character for symbols it doesn't know how to render.
shira
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(09-22-2017, 09:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by manfestival

It's amazing how many dota 2 gaming centers there are here in Peru. Like every corner there is a lan center

They have a minor in December.

I hope miracle or eg accept an invite.
Chris R
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(09-22-2017, 10:34 PM)
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Peter Dagger going in on Matt on twitter :o
Yazzees
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(09-22-2017, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris R

Peter Dagger going in on Matt on twitter :o

https://twitter.com/Peterpandam/stat...19327654481920

hahahah ahahhahaha why does matt getting called out always make me laugh
whiskeystrike
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(09-22-2017, 10:46 PM)
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I remember when Matt used to post here :(
Chris R
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(09-22-2017, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by whiskeystrike

I remember when Matt used to post here :(

Matt is a great person and it was awesome when he did post here :(

Unproven teams shouldn't get direct invites tho
traveler
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(09-22-2017, 10:56 PM)
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It definitely reads like a burn but PPD says its more intended to be an honest inquiry/criticism of the system and not a dig at Secret, who he respects as a team. Peter isn't one to mince words when he feels like it, so I'll take him at his word there.
Technosteve
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(09-22-2017, 11:00 PM)
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Where is milkman?
Anbokr
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(09-23-2017, 04:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Technosteve

Where is milkman?

he is dead...
Procarbine
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(09-23-2017, 04:18 AM)
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T1 by Swag aka Sebulon3k t=158d
T2 by Artanisix t=167d
T3 by Artanisix t=126d
T4 by Artanisix t=87d
T5 by Artanisix t=69d
OT1 by Artanisix t=92d
OT2 by Teknopathetic t=81d
OT3 by Artanisix t=82d
OT4 by Teknopathetic t=57d
OT5 by Artanisix t=49d
OT6 by Teknopathetic t=116d
OT7 by Artanisix t=78d
OT8 by Teknopathetic t=88d
OT9 by Teknopathetic t=83d
OT10 by Steve Winwood t=68d
OT11 by TUSR t=81d
OT12 by Dreams-Visions t=83d
OT13 by Hylian7 t=108d
OT14 by Artanisix t=125d
DISCORD GAINS POPULARITY
OT15 by Artanisix t=415d

True thread killer revealed.
Sigismundo
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(09-23-2017, 05:03 AM)
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Korea is about to qualify for a LAN. God help us all.
fr0st
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(09-23-2017, 05:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sigismundo

Korea is about to qualify for a LAN. God help us all.

Caveman DotA holy shit
Artanisix
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(09-23-2017, 05:19 AM)
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CCNC LUL
PPD LUL
Qvoth
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(09-23-2017, 05:37 AM)
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korean unga bunga too good
i told febby on his stream to pick pa and sb for ez win, lo and behold they win when they had at least 1 of those heroes

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