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Kangi
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(09-24-2017, 10:22 AM)
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That was tragic of Stejos.
Kotetsu534
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(09-24-2017, 10:38 AM)
In the previous 2v2 when Jarvan ganked Stejos Diamond went in to back him up and he bailed on him. I think they could have have got Camille and went 1-2 at worst, perhaps 1-1. Instead free two kills for Lyon. Then he forgot what Camille's ult does... sad way to go out.
NSESN
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(09-24-2017, 02:13 PM)
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Team One was able to qualify. Their level was still bad, but at least they are better than oceania.
Leezard
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(09-24-2017, 02:40 PM)
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It seems like a very good idea to have these play-in groups instead of auto-qualification for some wildcard teams if they are good enough in their own region.
whiskeystrike
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(09-24-2017, 06:18 PM)
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Prize pool seems a bit low for being such a popular game but it's something I guess.
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(09-24-2017, 06:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by whiskeystrike

Prize pool seems a bit low for being such a popular game but it's something I guess.

it's the same as every year....
TharpDaddy
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(09-24-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sol Mori

Minor regions tend to have huge issues when it comes to macro, so unless they can get a huge lead during laning phase and brute force their way through they tend to fall flat.

Like the fist Lyon vs WE game where Lyon had more kills but was never ahead in gold due to being behind in objectives.

In this DW vs C9 game, yes DW punish C9 in laning phase, but C9 never really falls more than a few thousand gold behind and a lot of kills went to the support. Then it moves into DW making mistakes in macro and getting punished for it.

You need good competition in order to make yourself better and the minor regions just don't have the depth of talent that major regions do. If NA was TSM + TL (x9) or EU was G2 + MM (x9) their macro ability would also drop because no one would be punishing their mistakes.

I feel like part of it is also just the regions being in their infancy. Brazil, for example, is growing pretty fast, but it doesn't have the experience or infrastructure of a region like NA. Wildcard regions are still relatively weak, but it's still a pretty significant difference from 3-4 years ago where they were literal joke punchlines. Now teams like Gigabyte Marines are an actual threat. I think as the regions continue to develop and more money goes into them, they'll start being more relevant on the international stage.
Prototype Viktor
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(09-24-2017, 08:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by whiskeystrike

Prize pool seems a bit low for being such a popular game but it's something I guess.

next year it will sorta not even matter as winning will get you more money outside of the prize
Sol Mori
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(09-25-2017, 08:39 AM)
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While it is play-ins, so all teams are going to have issues, but damn was KLG kinda slow to react on a couple roams that were in vision.

Also Cho'gath running down a Renekton is pretty funny.
Prototype Viktor
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(09-25-2017, 08:49 AM)
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RPG as bad as people thought
Sol Mori
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(09-25-2017, 09:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Prototype Viktor

RPG as bad as people thought

Unified giving up the perfect game.
Prototype Viktor
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(09-25-2017, 12:33 PM)
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how you have network issues for a lan game unless it's to the spectator or some shit
Leezard
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(09-25-2017, 12:39 PM)
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Really sloppy game from Fnatic so far.

edit: These server/network issues are terrible too. I can't remember the last time we had this many issues in a League tournament. It's not a lot, but even realtively small issues like this is bad.
cHinzo
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(09-25-2017, 01:20 PM)
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Welp that was rough. Still got the win though!
Leezard
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(09-26-2017, 12:35 PM)
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Fnatic looks super shaky in the early game. They're giving up way too much and are completely reliant on the enemy team making macro mistakes mid game.
Sigismundo
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(09-26-2017, 12:36 PM)
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I am glad that, regardless of Dota or League, Fnatic remain a joke.
Leezard
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(09-26-2017, 01:43 PM)
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TSM might just luck out even more and avoid WE now that FB is 1st seed in their group. HKA needs to get out of the play-in tournament for WE to be guaranteed group D.

edit: It might not even be possible to guarantee WE in group D now, right? Am I right in assuming we can't have WE/C9/FNC and HKA all out of groups now? Are the final matches simply BO5 between 1st and 2nd seeds?
Prototype Viktor
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(09-26-2017, 01:49 PM)
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Highly suspect the amount of infernals in the play-ins. When before all this there were very few of them and mountain drakes


Originally Posted by Leezard

Really sloppy game from Fnatic so far.

edit: These server/network issues are terrible too. I can't remember the last time we had this many issues in a League tournament. It's not a lot, but even realtively small issues like this is bad.

The year Samsung cheated maybe
NSESN
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(09-26-2017, 07:24 PM)
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Hope One beats FB. They aren't good, but with so much people overhyping FB and GMB I just want both to lose.

Originally Posted by Prototype Viktor

The year Samsung cheated maybe

What?
Prototype Viktor
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(09-26-2017, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by NSESN

Hope One beats FB. They aren't good, but with so much people overhyping FB and GMB I just want both to lose.



What?

the screen look heard around the world

but that year is the one where they had no power for awhile and riot bought the people there pizza if i'm not mistaken
NSESN
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(09-26-2017, 11:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Prototype Viktor

the screen look heard around the world

but that year is the one where they had no power for awhile and riot bought the people there pizza if i'm not mistaken

Are you certain it was Samsung?
Kotetsu534
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(09-27-2017, 12:51 AM)
It was Azubu Frost in 2012 (Woong in particular). I think one day before the famous CLG/WE match with the delays, multiple cancelled games (one after 50 minutes), no boots Janna at 40 mins, and a ward genocide.
Prototype Viktor
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(09-27-2017, 05:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by NSESN

Are you certain it was Samsung?

Ahh it was azubu my fault, I knew it was a dual team org
Sr Kitsune
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(09-28-2017, 05:01 AM)
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#GoLyon

Not mine, still gold


From the future: (I wish)

Prototype Viktor
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(09-28-2017, 05:44 AM)
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How the fuck is there even more internals
Prototype Viktor
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(09-28-2017, 06:25 AM)
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Gasp Lyon remembered to get drake this time rather than give it away but it's cloud drake
Sr Kitsune
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(09-28-2017, 06:54 AM)
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I am shaking

I am (mentally) crying

:(
Prototype Viktor
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(09-28-2017, 07:15 AM)
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2 things ruining things
Ardent and Cho ability to delay the dam game because he walks in and secure things
Sol Mori
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(09-28-2017, 07:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Prototype Viktor

2 things ruining things
Ardent and Cho ability to delay the dam game because he walks in and secure things

eh, while Cho'gath is certainly still overpowered, Lyon could have ended that game if they were a bit more aggressive. They did not play out the Baron dances too well. Lyon's movement was better, but they had tiny mistakes that let C9 stay in and ultimately win the game.

It is unfortunate of Lyon to have been in WE's group and then end up facing C9 in the Bo5. I honestly think they might be the 3rd best team in the play-ins.
Sr Kitsune
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(09-28-2017, 08:08 AM)
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(09-28-2017, 08:09 AM)
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damn, i was really hoping for Lyon after that second game TT___TT
Kalentan
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(09-28-2017, 08:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sr Kitsune

Can't lie. I was cheering for C9 but this makes me sad. :(
Sol Mori
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(09-28-2017, 08:35 AM)
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This tweet by lolesports. It is kinda mean, but I can't help but laugh.

https://twitter.com/lolesports/statu...84987914473474
Prototype Viktor
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(09-28-2017, 08:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sol Mori

eh, while Cho'gath is certainly still overpowered, Lyon could have ended that game if they were a bit more aggressive. They did not play out the Baron dances too well. Lyon's movement was better, but they had tiny mistakes that let C9 stay in and ultimately win the game.

It is unfortunate of Lyon to have been in WE's group and then end up facing C9 in the Bo5. I honestly think they might be the 3rd best team in the play-ins.

the Cho stalled the game for so long, if not for the chomp secure that game would have ended 25 minutes earlier
Sr Kitsune
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(09-28-2017, 08:52 AM)
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At least we know Seiya and Whitelotus are staying. Jirall (top) or Oddie (jungle) may leave. LYN Revolta. That would be interesting.
Leezard
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(09-28-2017, 09:43 AM)
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Fnatic looked shaky the first game, but they're showing they can do something early game now at least.
faridmon
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(09-28-2017, 10:52 AM)
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It bloody look like an easy 3-0 series to Fnatic, I can't believe how they are made to look like a clean team.

What the fuck Hong Kong Attitude, get yourself together. i expected a lot from you.

EDIT: Man, as much as I wanted Fnatic to win, this was a pathetic display from HKA
cHinzo
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(09-28-2017, 11:27 AM)
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Clean win from Fnatic. Glad they made it. C9 also had a pretty smooth play-in, excent for that game 2 this series lol.
zkylon
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(09-29-2017, 06:50 AM)
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that lyon vs c9 game 2 was pretty intense, would've been nice if lyon could've at least taken that game, it never quite felt like it was fully in their control but statistically it's really rare to lose games you've taken all three inhibs down. they gave c9 a run for their money on that game but kind of a bummer they sort of rolled over on game 3, even tho it's understandable given how much of a heartbreaker game 2 was

c9 continues to look pretty strong and i feel has a good shot of getting out of groups if they get in the skt group and edg chokes like usual. if they're on the ssg/g2/rng group tho, idk, i probably don't think they're better than any of those teams

fnatic looked kind of dumb in game 1 but they turned that around pretty quick and also finished their series looking strong. groups fnatic can go to also look like groups they could get out of, edg is same as c9 and immortals could go either way

group stages is gonna be good

also who in their right mind would think it was a good idea to play these really important games in the middle of the week....
Prototype Viktor
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(09-29-2017, 07:12 AM)
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What are you doing #FB ?


Sej top into a ranged champion. One shan't win this for NA power
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(09-29-2017, 07:18 AM)
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so far it's working tho
Prototype Viktor
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(09-29-2017, 08:02 AM)
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Go 1907!
Leezard
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(09-29-2017, 10:16 AM)
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YG are looking quite good in the second game.
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(09-29-2017, 10:35 AM)
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That's a throw. Two baron steals. What a shame for YG.
faridmon
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(09-29-2017, 10:35 AM)
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Wow that throw by YG

Bloody hell, WTF, they literally gave the game to WE
Prototype Viktor
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(09-29-2017, 10:38 AM)
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how do you lose a baron twice when you got a cho, i know his ult wasn't up the 1st time but dam that 2nd time
Skux
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(09-29-2017, 10:40 AM)
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Tilted off the face of the earth.
faridmon
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(09-29-2017, 10:40 AM)
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Why didn't lee kick Ez out of Baron area not into Baron?

Also, I am still not convinced about Ez Jungle. Chinese teams will struggle if they go for him in the Jungle.
Prototype Viktor
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(09-29-2017, 11:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by faridmon

Why didn't lee kick Ez out of Baron area not into Baron?

Also, I am still not convinced about Ez Jungle. Chinese teams will struggle if they go for him in the Jungle.

he wanted to Vayne Spotting while on Lee, he left a baron pit with baron under 4k hp
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(09-29-2017, 12:36 PM)
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C9 looks pretty rip. Fnatic got a doable group, but I would still rank LZ and Immortals above em. C was rip anyways and TSM got WE in their groups, but it's still the easiest one.

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