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RampagingSoul
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(08-31-2017, 03:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

She's attractive but she had actual fans? Dafuq...that fucking fanbase...

The only time I really liked Ino was during the war arc since she was a big part of it and was actually not useless.

It doesn't help I feel the only well-written female that came off well in Naruto was Part One Temari. Personal opinion though... Kishi just doesn't write females well.
Ray Down
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(08-31-2017, 03:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grexeno

"I'ma fund a whole new season of Teen Titans"

"While also bringing back Sym-Botic Titan by Sunrise"
JadedWriter
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(08-31-2017, 03:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by RampagingSoul

The only time I really liked Ino was during the war arc since she was a big part of it and was actually not useless.

It doesn't help I feel the only well-written female that came off well in Naruto was Part One Temari. Personal opinion though... Kishi just doesn't write females well.

Kishi can't write.
Ray Down
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(08-31-2017, 03:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by RampagingSoul

The only time I really liked Ino was during the war arc since she was a big part of it and was actually not useless.

It doesn't help I feel the only well-written female that came off well in Naruto was Part One Temari. Personal opinion though... Kishi just doesn't write females well.

Problem with alot of shonen writers in general.
HStallion
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(08-31-2017, 03:24 AM)
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They should move Toonami so it starts at 10 PM!
Doctor Decimate
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(08-31-2017, 03:25 AM)
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WHERE IS SPACE DANDY SEASON 2
Chase17
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(08-31-2017, 03:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by RampagingSoul

The only time I really liked Ino was during the war arc since she was a big part of it and was actually not useless.

It doesn't help I feel the only well-written female that came off well in Naruto was Part One Temari. Personal opinion though... Kishi just doesn't write females well.

Tsunada is solid in part 1 IIRC. Tried to pull a fast one on Orochimaru.

Originally Posted by Ray Down

Problem with alot of shonen writers in general.

JadedWriter
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(08-31-2017, 03:30 AM)
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Let's not forget Shizune giving Kabuto problems in a fight.
Ray Down
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(08-31-2017, 03:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chase17



:p
Chase17
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(08-31-2017, 03:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

Let's not forget Shizune giving Kabuto problems in a fight.

It's also very important to remember that at one point it seemed like Anko would do something.
Mizerman
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(08-31-2017, 03:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by RampagingSoul

The only time I really liked Ino was during the war arc since she was a big part of it and was actually not useless.

It doesn't help I feel the only well-written female that came off well in Naruto was Part One Temari. Personal opinion though... Kishi just doesn't write females well.

He seems really incapable of that.
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(08-31-2017, 03:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Doctor Decimate

WHERE IS SPACE DANDY SEASON 2

In the hole with IGPX and The Big O.
BassForever
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(08-31-2017, 03:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hellwarden

So time to reveal I hate shite taste.

I don't think Okami is a particularly good game.



I remember thinking it's visuals were interesting, but wrapped in a kinda dull plot with boring combat.

Originally Posted by Man God

Okami isn't great. It needs editing and it just doesn't quite fulfill that Zelda itch. It is charming though. When the main problem is that it isn't quite as good as another franchise and is waay too long you're doing pretty well.

Originally Posted by YoodiHoshi

I...kinda agree haven't beaten this game yet so don't know for sure

Let me join in on the okami is over rated camp
Ray Down
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(08-31-2017, 03:53 AM)
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I haven't played Okami but I agree.
HStallion
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(08-31-2017, 03:55 AM)
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Okami's biggest problem is its too easy and its pacing. It really needed a hardcore difficulty mode because some of the bosses were so damn well designed but were pretty easy to defeat. Seriously the 9 tail fox with paint brush tails that had the ability to draw as well was a missed opportunity.
BatDan
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(08-31-2017, 04:11 AM)
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Nice new thread.

I liked Okami, it's a bit overly-long but I liked it .
Not my favorite Kamiya game though, that's W101
Seda
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(08-31-2017, 04:12 AM)
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Okami is an okay game that never ends with a neat artstyle and an annoying bug character thing that doesnt shut up.
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(08-31-2017, 04:14 AM)
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do you think Jonathan would've liked Okami

Originally Posted by Man God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOJYpppwTRA

best opening song on the block atm tbh

(good luck with the Best Opening awards this year, guys!)
Seda
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(08-31-2017, 04:22 AM)
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I think it's kinda funny that game websites like to say that Dragon Ball Fighter Z is a "stunningly accurate-looking tribute to the anime" and such when really the anime often never looks close to as good as the game does.
Line_HTX
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(08-31-2017, 04:24 AM)
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I want other shows from ASA to get a rerun too...
zulux21
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(08-31-2017, 04:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by cntr

Shokugeki no Souma has a Sentai dub.

would be down for Blood Blockade Battlefront though

I mean the voices aren't what I would pick, but at the same time they aren't poorly done either in the episode or two I watched.
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Originally Posted by Seda

I think it's kinda funny that game websites like to say that Dragon Ball Fighter Z is a "stunningly accurate-looking tribute to the anime" and such when really the anime often never looks close to as good as the game does.

And the models are based on the manga and not the anime, so it's extra inaccurate.
BassForever
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(08-31-2017, 04:33 AM)
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As good as food wars is I doubt it's a show we'd ever see on toonami.
RampagingSoul
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(08-31-2017, 04:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

Kishi can't write.

Pretty much.

Originally Posted by Ray Down

Problem with alot of shonen writers in general.

Yeah, a majority definitely have that problem.

Originally Posted by Chase17

Tsunada is solid in part 1 IIRC. Tried to pull a fast one on Orochimaru.

Tsunade was good for her arc, but she didn't show much of anything after (mostly from becoming the Hokage). She has her moment during Pain Invasion in Part 2 and that's about it. So yeah, she was alright for her brief moment or two and that's it.

Originally Posted by Mizerman

He seems really incapable of that.

Yep.
cntr
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(08-31-2017, 04:47 AM)
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Kishimoto had a plan for Naruto, and then everything fell apart once he ran out of plans. Same goes for Kubo and Bleach.

Not coincidentally, the two editor suggested characters, Sakura and Sasuke, were also the weakest characters. Arguably, Sasuke even had his backstory lifted from Kurapika's.
BatDan
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(08-31-2017, 04:47 AM)
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The list of good Shonen writers could fill a page or two.
The list of bad Shonen writers could fill a tome.
Though the majority of those have series that barely last or are hidden away in the magazines nobody cares for.
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(08-31-2017, 04:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by BatDan

The list of good Shonen writers could fill a page or two.
The list of bad Shonen writers could fill a tome.
Though the majority of those have series that barely last or are hidden away in the magazines nobody cares for.

To be fair, that's true of like, pretty much all fiction.
BatDan
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(08-31-2017, 04:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by cntr

To be fair, that's true of like, pretty much all fiction.

True. Sturgeon's Law and everything.
cntr
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(08-31-2017, 04:52 AM)
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...man, Naruto's especially annoying, through. It has every piece necessary to be a fantastic story, but Kishimoto squandered all of it.
Morlas
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(08-31-2017, 04:59 AM)
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The biggest problem with Sakura isn't her personality or the fact that she's mostly useless...it's the fact that she exists solely for the benefit of Naruto and Sasuke she has no motivation that doesn't directly or indirectly involve those two and at the start she's played like a catalyst for Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry...but only Naruto actually gives a crap about her so it doesn't work
PapaGreg95
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(08-31-2017, 05:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Morlas996

The biggest problem with Sakura isn't her personality or the fact that she's mostly useless...it's the fact that she exists solely for the benefit of Naruto and Sasuke she has no motivation that doesn't directly or indirectly involve those two and at the start she's played like a catalyst for Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry...but only Naruto actually gives a crap about her so it doesn't work

Pretty much this hell looking back its kinda said that Ten Ten gets the short end of the straw when she had actually goals
PapaGreg95
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(08-31-2017, 05:25 AM)
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Also a little off topic but is it weird that I kinda find the gender bend Morty a bit cute.

cntr
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(08-31-2017, 05:35 AM)
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Hinata and Tenten have fairly specific goals, while Temari gets fairly decent development in Part 1.

But for whatever reason, Ino and Sakura have neither.

Originally Posted by PapaGreg95

Also a little off topic but is it weird that I kinda find the gender bend Morty a bit cute.

Er, not really, but kind of a weird thing to bring up out of nowhere?
Man God
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(08-31-2017, 05:41 AM)
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I mean they both become decent medical ninja in a couple of years of hard training. Sakura's goal is half of Naruto's, but she kinda gives up on it because frankly she's just not important to the manga after the Chunin exam in part 1 and after the Sasori fight in part 2. Ino is even worse off because she's just Sakura's foil, though she does have a role to play in the Immortals arc.

Twenty is just not important in either part but she shines in filler and basically is the co-star of her own series. Temari is a big deal in three arcs spread over two parts. Tsunade gets very little but probably suffers the least because when she does show up she usually does something to advance her own standing. Anko has a great setup that they do literally nothing with. Kurenai has a story beat but she's also got a newborn to raise. Karin...might sadly be the most developed female character in all of part 2. Think about that for a moment.
caliph95
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(08-31-2017, 05:42 AM)
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Goddamn almost missed the new thread

I thought it was getting quiet
Morlas
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(08-31-2017, 05:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Man God

I mean they both become decent medical ninja in a couple of years of hard training. Sakura's goal is half of Naruto's, but she kinda gives up on it because frankly she's just not important to the manga after the Chunin exam in part 1 and after the Sasori fight in part 2. Ino is even worse off because she's just Sakura's foil, though she does have a role to play in the Immortals arc.

Twenty is just not important in either part but she shines in filler and basically is the co-star of her own series. Temari is a big deal in three arcs spread over two parts. Tsunade gets very little but probably suffers the least because when she does show up she usually does something to advance her own standing. Anko has a great setup that they do literally nothing with. Kurenai has a story beat but she's also got a newborn to raise. Karin...might sadly be the most developed female character in all of part 2. Think about that for a moment.

Hinata saves the world by saving Naruto three times!
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Naruto makes a lot of weird character choices in general, tbh.

Remember how Yamato is a minor character, when his backstory should make him ridiculously important?
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(08-31-2017, 05:46 AM)
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That's roughly how many times Sakura actually saved him. I left Hinata out on purpose. We get most of her story. She does change a bit in both parts though is roughly who she was by the end of the Chunin exam. I'd like a bit more of her and Naruto after the events of Part 2 but whatever. She's fine. Could be better. That's kinda the highest bar of Kishi's depiction of female characters.
Crimson_Echidna
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(08-31-2017, 05:47 AM)
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Not casting shade since I'm not big on the series either but it seems like everyone always goes back to "Naruto sucks" whale each week. I just keep getting Deja Vu everytime I lurk when I'm at work lol

Originally Posted by zulux21

I mean the voices aren't what I would pick, but at the same time they aren't poorly done either in the episode or two I watched.

I'm not a fan of the direction they went with Erina though. She's completely off.
caliph95
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(08-31-2017, 05:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by JadedWriter

Let's not forget Shizune giving Kabuto problems in a fight.

Originally Posted by Chase17

It's also very important to remember that at one point it seemed like Anko would do something.

I had to actually Google the characters I forgot they existed
Morlas
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(08-31-2017, 05:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by Man God

That's roughly how many times Sakura actually saved him. I left Hinata out on purpose. We get most of her story. She does change a bit in both parts though is roughly who she was by the end of the Chunin exam. I'd like a bit more of her and Naruto after the events of Part 2 but whatever. She's fine. Could be better. That's kinda the highest bar of Kishi's depiction of female characters.

That's one thing i like about her though her personality doesn't change much she just becomes a better version of herself.

maybe its for the better that kishimoto kept her saved for mostly big moments...though he could probably write some good dating comedy with those two
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Originally Posted by Morlas996

That's one thing i like about her though her personality doesn't change much she just becomes a better version of herself.

maybe its for the better that kishimoto kept her saved for mostly big moments...though he could probably write some good dating comedy with those two

Can Kishimoto even write romance stories
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Originally Posted by caliph95

Can Kishimoto even write romance stories

i don't mean the sappy stuff just comedic bouncing off of their personalities...he'd probably screw super romantic stuff up
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Originally Posted by Crimson_Echidna

Not casting shade since I'm not big on the series either but it seems like everyone always goes back to "Naruto sucks" whale each week. I just keep getting Deja Vu everytime I lurk when I'm at work lol

Naruto's special because you can give specific exact discussable reasons for why it sucks. Can't do that with, say, Bleach.
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Originally Posted by caliph95

Can Kishimoto even write romance stories

The Last Naruto Movie

Review from Morlas996:
Man God
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(08-31-2017, 05:56 AM)
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He's good at writing Naruto and Hinata scenes for laughs. They're all funny and almost all of the good ones are in the manga, though some of the non-canon™ ones aren't bad either. Now when the romance gets serious...pretty screwed there.
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naruto spoilers I guess but who cares

The whole thing about Naruto ignoring Hinata's confession is still the dumbest shit ever. Especially when the excuses are "Naruto still cares about Sakura", "Naruto doesn't understand what love is", and straight-up ignoring it.

I mean, god damn, Naruto isn't that deep of a person. He's a goddamn pervy-ass idiot teenager. If a girl, Hinata or otherwise, confesses to him, he's not going to give a shit about his other crushes. A teenager like him would just go "hell yeah!" and do it.

It boggles the mind how dumb the romance writing is in Naruto.
Man God
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(08-31-2017, 06:02 AM)
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Naruto was pretty busy during the time/got hit in the head a lot would have worked, but noo, he heard it all and believed it...to be something else.
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And if Kishimoto really didn't want to do an on-going romance, just have Naruto and Hinata be like "we'll put it off for now since we're busy, okay?". He had the pairing planned since Part 1, after all, and that's infinitely less moronic than what happened.

But I guess we wouldn't get the "character drama" that way. Barf.
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(08-31-2017, 06:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by cntr

Naruto makes a lot of weird character choices in general, tbh.

Remember how Yamato is a minor character, when his backstory should make him ridiculously important?

Right? You'd think that he would be a big deal, but nooooo.

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