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newdayrocks
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(10-06-2017, 10:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Because lol China renders. Mi mix 2 sure looked nice once upon a time.


Cellphone folks came by the office again. Played with the v30. Looks great! Didn't notice any issues with the screen.

That is one ugly-ass weather widget.
VanMardigan
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(10-06-2017, 11:26 PM)
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The funniest parts of the last few pages is watching unknown try to talk himself away from the awesome note 8 into a Chinese phone. Ain't nobody going to back you up on that move, gotta make that jump on your own buddy lol.
brotkasten
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(10-06-2017, 11:33 PM)

Originally Posted by VanMardigan

The funniest parts of the last few pages is watching unknown try to talk himself away from the awesome note 8 into a Chinese phone. Ain't nobody going to back you up on that move, gotta make that jump on your own buddy lol.

I'm sure his disappointment was big enough to sell his Samsung stock.
Prototype Viktor
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(10-06-2017, 11:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by MisterRoboto

Is there a cheap USB charger that splits into both USB-c and Iphone?

don't cut corners on USB-C things
Unknown Soldier
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(10-07-2017, 12:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by VanMardigan

The funniest parts of the last few pages is watching unknown try to talk himself away from the awesome note 8 into a Chinese phone. Ain't nobody going to back you up on that move, gotta make that jump on your own buddy lol.

This is such a strange thing to say when all phones are made in China. I'm just cutting out the middleman.

It has more or less come down to that Xiaomi or a OnePlus 5 and that's Chinese too. I'm not going to buy LG or HTC. So that's how it's going to be.

There's not a lot of real options in Android if you actually don't buy Samsung.
kaiyo
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(10-07-2017, 12:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by PudieRSC

Almost up with Fido. Will go wherever for a good deal.

Not an option. unfortunately.

What's the reason, if you don't mind answering?

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

This is such a strange thing to say when all phones are made in China. I'm just cutting out the middleman.

It has more or less come down to that Xiaomi or a OnePlus 5 and that's Chinese too. I'm not going to buy LG or HTC. So that's how it's going to be.

There's not a lot of real options in Android if you actually don't buy Samsung.

What?
Chris R
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(10-07-2017, 12:35 AM)
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Man, the pre-order deal for the G5S+ is really tempting :( I was hoping to have a slightly nicer phone and maybe something with a little less bezel, but for me at least, the G5S+ walks all over the Pixel 2 for half the price and it comes with a headphone port.
The Faceless Master
(10-07-2017, 12:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

This is such a strange thing to say when all phones are made in China. I'm just cutting out the middleman.

It has more or less come down to that Xiaomi or a OnePlus 5 and that's Chinese too. I'm not going to buy LG or HTC. So that's how it's going to be.

There's not a lot of real options in Android if you actually don't buy Samsung.

be together. not the same.
Lulubop
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(10-07-2017, 01:08 AM)
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Damn, no one gives a fuck about the V30? I'm between that and the S8+, what ya think?
Majine
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(10-07-2017, 01:14 AM)
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Can Samsung fucking patch in a battery indicator for bluetooth devices? Holy shit.
BoboBrazil
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(10-07-2017, 01:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lulubop

Damn, no one gives a fuck about the V30? I'm between that and the S8+, what ya think?

You gotta be insane to pay full value for v30. Will be under $500 within 2 months.
Vanillalite
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(10-07-2017, 01:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lulubop

Damn, no one gives a fuck about the V30? I'm between that and the S8+, what ya think?

Originally Posted by BoboBrazil

You gotta be insane to pay full value for v30. Will be under $500 within 2 months.

This.

People like the V30, but it's gonna price drop fast like the G6. Plus the S8+ has been out a while and the Note 8 is on the market which has pushed pricing lower if you look around.

V30 is a great phone. Your crazy to pay $750-$800 for it right now though.
dcll
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(10-07-2017, 01:52 AM)
https://youtu.be/9bG9_rE1ylo

This was shot on the Pixel 2, pretty impressive pics and video
The Faceless Master
(10-07-2017, 02:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Majine

Can Samsung fucking patch in a battery indicator for bluetooth devices? Holy shit.

just use the headphone jack.
VanMardigan
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(10-07-2017, 02:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

This is such a strange thing to say when all phones are made in China. I'm just cutting out the middleman.

Phones aren't a commodity yet. You know it's true, which is why nobody buys phones from a spec sheet and why you haven't bought a Chinese phone yet.
andthebeatgoeson
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(10-07-2017, 02:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Crimson_Gold

My pixel XL is here. Trying to decide if I'll keep it or get the pixel XL 2 instead

400 dollars right there. 👀
Jeffrey
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(10-07-2017, 02:44 AM)
I played with a mix 2 in china a few weeks ago. The skin is bad. The bezels are pretty noticeable in person. Maybe if it was cheaper but importing for $600+... Idk man. Think my current plan is pixel 2 xl until op6, unless mate 10 is a true game changer and is sold in the US in a reasonable time frame.
Vanillalite
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(10-07-2017, 02:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I played with a mix 2 in china a few weeks ago. The skin is bad. The bezels are pretty noticeable in person. Maybe if it was cheaper but importing for $600+... Idk man. Think my current plan is pixel 2 xl until op6, unless mate 10 is a true game changer and is sold in the US in a reasonable time frame.

That's an issue too. Chinese phones for the US market due to import fees and the like mean they aren't as cheap as they are over there.

You effectively lose a lot of the deal.
The Faceless Master
(10-07-2017, 02:55 AM)
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after tax it was ~$575 for the Note8 and $80 for the Swappa burner i traded in

Made in China

Designed in Korea
Crimson_Gold
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(10-07-2017, 02:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by andthebeatgoeson

400 dollars right there. 👀

We all know I'm getting the XL 2. I just have to act like I'm not going to get it
The Faceless Master
(10-07-2017, 02:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vanillalite

This.

People like the V30, but it's gonna price drop fast like the G6. Plus the S8+ has been out a while and the Note 8 is on the market which has pushed pricing lower if you look around.

V30 is a great phone. Your crazy to pay $750-$800 for it right now though.

this.

unless you REALLY REALLY need that sweet Quad DAC this month, you can wait and pick it up for a song.
Unknown Soldier
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(10-07-2017, 03:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I played with a mix 2 in china a few weeks ago. The skin is bad. The bezels are pretty noticeable in person. Maybe if it was cheaper but importing for $600+... Idk man. Think my current plan is pixel 2 xl until op6, unless mate 10 is a true game changer and is sold in the US in a reasonable time frame.

The China price is actually $600 though. There isn't some kind of crazy markup on the import stores at all.

Your idea of picking up a cheap OP3T is not a bad one. It doesn't seem like the OP5 is a huge change and the OP5 is sold out in the US anyways right now.

Edit: what's a good price for an OP3T these days?
Quasar
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(10-07-2017, 05:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by kaiyo

What's the reason, if you don't mind answering?

What?

That is confusing.Theres a multitude of options.
NeOak
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(10-07-2017, 05:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by VanMardigan

The funniest parts of the last few pages is watching unknown try to talk himself away from the awesome note 8 into a Chinese phone. Ain't nobody going to back you up on that move, gotta make that jump on your own buddy lol.

burnnnnnn

:P
BoboBrazil
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(10-07-2017, 05:29 AM)
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Got an email from Google about my free google home mini I'm getting for preordering a pixel xl 2. Only 1 email even though I purchased to 2 XLs though.
DrFunk
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(10-07-2017, 05:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by BoboBrazil

Got an email from Google about my free google home mini I'm getting for preordering a pixel xl 2. Only 1 email even though I purchased to 2 XLs though.

Got the same email. Still not solid delivery date
BoboBrazil
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(10-07-2017, 05:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by DrFunk

Got the same email. Still not solid delivery date

Hopefully they'll move up my XL 2 delivery dates. I was at work during the conference and missed the earlier dates so mine are 10/23
longdi
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(10-07-2017, 06:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Baroquemantic

I realize now that I definitely prefer more angular/less rounded phones like the Note 8 and Sony's stuff. Even looking at the small Pixel 2 versus the iPhone 8, the more monolithic look appeals to me more.

Same bro! Straight cuts look more classy than 4 rounded corners.Though Note8 is quite a nice mid-ground. However it is rather thick and rounded when looking from its sides.

Something about such design looks toyish imo
https://i.imgur.com/MCcIx8y.jpg
Unknown Soldier
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(10-07-2017, 08:04 AM)
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OP3T with 128 GB of storage isn't really that cheap....best price on Swappa is like $400.

Might as well just get the OP5 128 GB then for $140 more. It's hard to imagine the use case for 8 GB of RAM on an Android device but then again this is Android. It will find a way to use it up somehow.

OP5 is sold out like everywhere though...except in China lol. But I don't have to pay stupid tax if I import it. So it's actually cheaper for me to import a phone sold locally. Globalization is such a fickle mistress.

edit:

Goddammit. I just found out about the jelly-scrolling problem on the OP5. Idea goes in the trash along with me buying this phone.
mAcOdIn
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(10-07-2017, 10:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by kaiyo

XZ Premium =P

I'll be honest, I like Sony but did they ever fix that issue with the camera causing the phone to overheat and the app closing that the Z3 had? Because I heard the Xperia right after it also had that feature and I thought that was ridiculous, spec wise it was a nice camera, just, hope you didn't want to actually, you know, use it.
cube444
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(10-07-2017, 04:00 PM)
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Is there any chance that Google might ship the new Pixel XL 2 phones ahead of the date that you've been given?
Jazzy Network
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(10-07-2017, 04:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by cube444

Is there any chance that Google might ship the new Pixel XL 2 phones ahead of the date that you've been given?

How would anyone know?
cube444
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(10-07-2017, 04:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jazzy Network

How would anyone know?

I'm asking more in regards to their track record.
PudieRSC
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(10-07-2017, 04:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by kaiyo

What's the reason, if you don't mind answering?


I don't have $800.
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(10-07-2017, 05:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by cube444

Is there any chance that Google might ship the new Pixel XL 2 phones ahead of the date that you've been given?

there's as much chance that you'll get it sooner as there is that you'll get it later lol

this is google, no Android OEM other than samsung has learned how to handle a supply chain.
Crimson_Gold
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(10-07-2017, 05:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

there's as much chance that you'll get it sooner as there is that you'll get it later lol

this is google

So you're telling me there's a chance
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(10-07-2017, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Crimson_Gold

So you're telling me there's a chance

yes there is! I can speak from a carrier perspective because I work at one but all the time we get these estimates and they're usually worst case scenarios. Usually...

edit: which by the way can I add that pre-order numbers have been absolutely abysmal lol. I'm talking barely cracking triple digits for the models. Think about that for a second. Obviously I don't live in the USA where there is shittons more people but still. Yet some of them have later shipping times so it just goes to show how dire the inventory situation is.
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(10-07-2017, 05:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

yes there is! I can speak from a carrier perspective because I work at one but all the time we get these estimates and they're usually worst case scenarios. Usually...

edit: which by the way can I add that pre-order numbers have been absolutely abysmal lol. I'm talking barely cracking triple digits for the models. Think about that for a second. Obviously I don't live in the USA where there is shittons more people but still. Yet some of them have later shipping times so it just goes to show how dire the inventory situation is.

Not shocked. It is a phone that is geared towards the US market. Gonna need a better strategy going forward. Hopefully a custom soc is coming
Jazzy Network
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(10-07-2017, 05:36 PM)
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Google's logistics for their hardware is absolutely abysmal.
Jeffrey
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(10-07-2017, 05:38 PM)

Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

OP3T with 128 GB of storage isn't really that cheap....best price on Swappa is like $400.

Might as well just get the OP5 128 GB then for $140 more. It's hard to imagine the use case for 8 GB of RAM on an Android device but then again this is Android. It will find a way to use it up somehow.

OP5 is sold out like everywhere though...except in China lol. But I don't have to pay stupid tax if I import it. So it's actually cheaper for me to import a phone sold locally. Globalization is such a fickle mistress.

edit:

Goddammit. I just found out about the jelly-scrolling problem on the OP5. Idea goes in the trash along with me buying this phone.

Dang. That's always the good thing about oneplus. Phones hold their value for some reason.

Also the jelly isn't really noticeable for me unless I scroll slowly up and down,ehich I never do. I'm fairly sensitive to framerate, yet this never bothered me.
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(10-07-2017, 05:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jazzy Network

Google's logistics for their hardware is absolutely abysmal.

I always say this but the problem with google is they have great software (mostly) and they're clearly capable of designing products that look good and function well. But they lack the engineering and operational skills to not only create truly cutting edge products like samsung/apple but also operationalize them through their (clearly non-existent) supply chain and deliver them to customers.

People under appreciate the work it takes to do something like that because companies like Apple do it so seemingly effortlessly.

I wonder if Google is hoping to take this much more seriously with their move to in-house engineers but that doesn't solve the supply chain thing.
kaiyo
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(10-07-2017, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by mAcOdIn

I'll be honest, I like Sony but did they ever fix that issue with the camera causing the phone to overheat and the app closing that the Z3 had? Because I heard the Xperia right after it also had that feature and I thought that was ridiculous, spec wise it was a nice camera, just, hope you didn't want to actually, you know, use it.

well the one right after Z3 was Z3+/Z4 and then the Z5, both had the SD810, and we know what a clusterfuck the SD810 was. The XZ is decent, it can get pretty warm. For the XZ Premium they use a new cooling system and has very little heat build up. It can record 4k video pretty much endlessly.

Originally Posted by PudieRSC

I don't have $800.

Buy it on credit card, pay off ~$400 that month, and then pay like $30-$40 every month. There's your "tab" you get with carriers.

829 * tax = ~$936 - $400 = $536 / $35 = ~16 months to pay it off.

And get a ~$45 plan that will pop up for black friday that has 4gb of data or whatever.
NeOak
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(10-07-2017, 07:20 PM)
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I'm fine with my Galaxy S8+, but somehow I don't feel excited anymore.

I look at new phones D:

I now understand Jeffrey
Jeffrey
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(10-07-2017, 07:21 PM)
I'm curious what the Xperia new design language will look like. If they wanna keep stereo speakers it's probably gonna end up looking a bit like pixel XL 2 if they go 18:9.
BoboBrazil
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(10-07-2017, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Dang. That's always the good thing about oneplus. Phones hold their value for some reason.

Also the jelly isn't really noticeable for me unless I scroll slowly up and down,ehich I never do. I'm fairly sensitive to framerate, yet this never bothered me.

Open development and lower entry price helps it maintain it's resale value. If it's opening price started at $800 it wouldn't. Just look at the Pixel. Dropped to $400 from $800 within a year. I don't even notice the jelly effect any more. My eyes have completely adjusted, even when going between phones. I will say the lower resolution of the screen is very noticeable though when going to devices with nicer 1440P screens.
cube444
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(10-07-2017, 07:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

there's as much chance that you'll get it sooner as there is that you'll get it later lol

this is google, no Android OEM other than samsung has learned how to handle a supply chain.

:lol

Thanks.
kaiyo
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(10-07-2017, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I'm curious what the Xperia new design language will look like. If they wanna keep stereo speakers it's probably gonna end up looking a bit like pixel XL 2 if they go 18:9.

Hopefully without the rounded corners
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(10-07-2017, 08:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Pyromaniac-

I always say this but the problem with google is they have great software (mostly) and they're clearly capable of designing products that look good and function well. But they lack the engineering and operational skills to not only create truly cutting edge products like samsung/apple but also operationalize them through their (clearly non-existent) supply chain and deliver them to customers.

People under appreciate the work it takes to do something like that because companies like Apple do it so seemingly effortlessly.

I wonder if Google is hoping to take this much more seriously with their move to in-house engineers but that doesn't solve the supply chain thing.

They hired Rick Osterloh to help sort this out. He's only been around a little over a year and this is not the kind of thing you get squared away overnight. Apple and Samsung have both had a very long time to get their operations houses in order.
Jeffrey
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(10-07-2017, 08:03 PM)
hmmm... still trying to parse whats exclusive about the pixel 2. bixby button/squeeze. bixby vision (I assume ppl will just mod the camera apk again).

Like is there any new features to take advantage of the larger screen? LG and samsung been playing around with those. Can you crop videos to be full screen on youtube?
Baroquemantic
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(10-07-2017, 08:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I'm curious what the Xperia new design language will look like. If they wanna keep stereo speakers it's probably gonna end up looking a bit like pixel XL 2 if they go 18:9.

Hopefully Sony's has smaller side bezels, as that's the only real problem I have with the XL 2's design. Top and bottom bezels are still relatively small given the stereo speakers, but those side bezels are as big as the ones on the iPhone X.

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