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- This is a thread for everything relating to Sonic the Hedgehog. That being said, please keep it clean and follow the ToS. Fanworks are fine, but be reasonable.
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- Discussion about the latest game(s) is more than welcome, but don't forget that new news = new thread.
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The Games



GENESIS ERA
- Sonic 1
- Sonic 2
- Sonic 3
- Sonic & Knuckles
- Sonic Spinball
- Sonic 3D Blast
- Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
- Sonic CD
- Knuckles Chaotix




MASTER SYSTEM/GAME GEAR ERA
- Sonic 1
- Sonic 2
- Sonic Chaos/Sonic and Tails
- Sonic Triple Trouble/Sonic and Tails 2
- Sonic Labyrinth
- Sonic Drift
- Sonic Drift 2
- Tails' Skypatrol
- Tails' Adventure




SATURN ERA
- Sonic 3D
- Sonic Jam
- Sonic R




DREAMCAST ERA
- Sonic Adventure
- Sonic Adventure 2
- Sonic Shuffle




PORTABLE ERA
- Sonic Advance
- Sonic Advance 2
- Sonic Advance 3
- Sonic Battle
- Sonic Pinball Party
- Sonic Rivals
- Sonic Rivals 2
- Sonic Rush
- Sonic Rush Adventure
- Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood
- Sonic Colors
- Sonic Generations
- Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing
- Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed




CUBE/PS2/XBOX ERA
- Sonic Adventure DX
- Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
- Sonic Heroes
- Shadow the Hedgehog
- Sonic Riders
- Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
- Sonic Unleashed




MODERN ERA
- Sonic 2006
- Sonic Unleashed
- Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 & 2
- Sonic Colors
- Sonic Generations
- Sonic and the Secret Rings
- Sonic and the Black Knight
- Sonic Free Riders
- Sega Superstars Tennis
- Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing
- Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
- Sonic Lost World



The Animation
Sonic the Hedgehog, ever since his debut in the early 1990s, has been adored by players around the world. But Sonic isn’t only a huge force as a videogame character; he’s had his fair share of TV shows chronicling his adventures and misadventures across various lands. This was also the first time players were able to attach a voice to Sonic.

There have been five cartoon/anime series produced by various animation studios for Sonic: The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog (known by many as SatAM), Sonic the Movie (fondly referred to as “Sonic OVA”), Sonic Underground (“Sonic le Rebelle”), and Sonic X.



Both Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM) and The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (AoStH) debuted in September 1993; both produced by DiC Entertainment to represent Sonic the Hedgehog on TV. Jaleel White of Family Matters fame provided the voice for Sonic the Hedgehog for both shows. However, the two shows could not have been any different.

The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog took a more humorous approach to the world of Sonic the Hedgehog, often including slapstick comedy and one-note episodes (rather than being story and drama-driven like SatAM). It focused on Sonic and Tails’s adventures throughout Mobius while foiling the plans of Dr. Robotnik (voiced by the late Long John Baldry) and his robot lackeys Grounder, Scratch, and Coconuts. It also included brief snippets of Robotnik’s personal history, with some episodes focusing on Mama Robotnik. The final episode aired in 1995.

SatAM was the other DiC produced cartoon also debuting in 1993. It got its fan name due to being broadcast on early Saturday mornings. The series followed Sonic, Tails, and a resistance group called the Freedom Fighters who were led by Princess Sally Acorn to stand up against Dr. Robotnik, who had betrayed her father and roboticized the majority of the population. The series itself had a more story-driven and darker tone, complementing the wackiness and humorous tone of its sister show. It is also the only Sonic cartoon that does not involve the Chaos Emeralds at all. The final episode was aired in 1994 and was not picked up for a third season. The majority of the show’s characters, story elements, and tone were retained in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series published by Archie Comics.



The third animated feature happened to a movie: Sonic the Hedgehog (anime), or Sonic OVA to fans. In Japan, it was originally divided up into two episodes: "Journey to Eggmanland" and "Sonic VS Metal Sonic". In the west, for the ADV Films dub, it was released as a full-fledged movie called “Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie”) on September 8th, 1999 to coincide with the launch of the SEGA Dreamcast and Sonic Adventure. In the first portion of the movie—the Journey to Eggmanland portion—Robotnik kidnaps Princess Sara and her father in order for Sonic (Martin Burke) and Tails to defeat Metal Robotnik who has taken over Eggmanland. During their adventure, they meet up with Knuckles, and the trio uncover Sonic’s robotic twin, Hyper Metal Sonic. The second portion of the movie involves Sonic, Tails and Knuckles following Metal Sonic to the Land of the Sky to defeat it once and for all.



Sonic Underground—the fourth animated feature—made its debut in August 1999. It was produced by DiC Entertainment when they were contacted by SEGA in the lead-up to the launch of the SEGA Dreamcast (when SEGA was advertising all of its big franchises). The show chronicled the adventures of Sonic and his siblings Manic and Sonia (all three voiced by Jaleel White) while they attempted to search for their mother, Queen Aleena Hedgehog—the former ruler of Mobius. Dr. Robotnik returns again as the villain, with new bumbling sidekicks: Sleet and Dingo. They pursue the three Hedgehog children to prevent a prophecy from coming to pass: the Queen’s three children will reign Robotnik’s reign of terror. The show also featured quite a few songs per episode, due to all three Hedgehogs being part of a band (“Sonic Underground”), where Sonic plays the guitar, Manic plays the drums, and Sonia plays the keyboards. Sonic Underground only lasted one season due to its lack of popularity among viewers.



The next Sonic animated feature was Sonic X, animated and produced in Japan by TMS Entertainment. It follows Sonic (Jason Griffith) and the rest of the main cast of the games teleporting to Earth. He meets Chris Thorndyke, a human boy who provides them shelter while they try to thwart Dr. Eggman’s plans to conquer Earth. Portions of the first season also adapted Sonic Adventure. Although not very successful in Japan, despite a 52-episode run, the series was very successful abroad, and an additional 25 episodes were made as a “second season” for the series, chronicling Sonic & friends’ travels in space to defeat the Metarex army. Sonic X also introduced many different characters to the Sonic Universe, such as Bokkun, the Thorndyke family, Topaz and Cosmo. A lot of these characters served to assist in developing the main Sonic cast in terms of comedy or even drama (with one example being the relationship between Tails and Cosmo in the second season). 4Kids Entertainment picked up the license for the series in the west, and as a result, the English version of the show was edited for broadcasting guidelines. The soundtrack was changed, entire portions were edited out, and phrases were excised or changed to make the show more family-oriented.



In Fall 2014, Sonic will be returning to the small screen in a CG-animated affair with the working title Sonic Boom. It will debut in the US on Cartoon Network, and on CANAL J/GULLI in France, and then rolling out worldwide. There will be 52 11-minute episodes co-produced by Sega of America and Genao Productions (formerly Timoon Animation). Takashi Iizuka is overseeing the series in order to make sure that the show stays true to Sonic’s universe. In terms of tone, Sonic Boom will a character-driven comedy show which focuses on Sonic and Tails in their battles against Eggman, with Knuckles and Amy Rose rounding out the cast. Some enemies will include those familiar to Sonic fans, with some new ones being thrown in the mix.

The Comics



The older issues of the Archie comics are collected in the Sonic Archives, each book collecting an average of 4 issues. Vol. 0 collects the miniseries that predates the main comic. It should be noted that the comic continued some remaining plot threads from the Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM) cartoon while maintaining some of The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog's comedy at the beginning. Otherwise, the single issues can be purchased through Archie's website, Comixology, Archie's own iOS/Android app, and from Google Play.

Recent writer, and generally lauded, Ian Flynn's run on the series begins with Issue #160. However, neither #160 nor #161 are collected in TPB form yet. With that said, Archie has begun to compile Flynn's run of the comics under the 'Sonic Saga" branding in TPB format. The first volume can be purchased here, with Volume 5 being expected to release next year.

Sonic Universe is the current sister series focusing on other characters and are generally written as 4-issue arcs. Although the first arc stars Shadow the Hedgehog, it was generally a well-written arc that demonstrated the usefulness of the Sonic Universe branding, and also showcased Flynn's writing skills. Other characters that aren't generally seen as strong, such as Silver the Hedgehog, also gain a more positive outlook via the writing.

After some legal issues surrounding former writer Ken Penders, Archie decided to reboot the series and fortunately it has turned out for the best. With that in mind, it begs the question of where a good starting point is for reading the series. There are a few options to keep in mind:
  • Begin reading from when Ian Flynn started writing for the series at #160. Though, you should bear in mind that the earlier issues involved him trying to clean up and bin elements and characters introduced to the series prior to his tenure (ex: Eggman's AI children). There are various references to certain events that occurred years ago that new readers may not get.
  • Begin reading from the Sonic Genesis Arc, generally seen as a very easy way to step into the series, as it ties into the game series, while introducing the comic characters for newcomers.
  • You can start with Worlds Collide, the Sonic and Mega Man crossover miniseries. It mainly involves the characters from the video games and can be enjoyed even if you've never read neither the Sonic nor Mega Man comics before. Vol. 1 is being released on December 10th, 2013, with the other volumes being released 2-3 months beyond this volume and each other.
  • Afterwards/Alternatively you can either start reading from Sonic 252 onwards or wait for this TPB to be released, though there's no set date for that yet sadly.


The Music



Sonic music. Those two words alone mean a hundred different things to a hundred different people. Everyone has their favorite tunes, favorite games, or even favorite eras, but not many know who the people behind the scenes are. So let's take a moment and go on a quick musical trip through history, one living legend at a time.



Masato Nakamura

"Sonic is amazingly important to me. As a musician, the Sonic music is really important to me. And if some day down the line, I'm ever given a chance to work on music for Sonic again, I'd be really happy. And I'd get stuck when trying... When I walk by arcades, I'll hear crane game machines playing Sonic music, and I'll just stop there and listen, and I'll cry a little bit from all of the memories."

Often imitated, never duplicated. Bassist and songwriter for J-pop band Dreams Come True, Masato Nakamura is the man behind the music of Sonic 1 and 2, save for the chaos emerald jingle and drowning theme which were composed by Sega staffer Yukifumi Makino (who's a major figure in Sega music in his own right). No matter how much time passes and how much the series changes, it still owes its musical tone to this man.

Green Hill Zone (Demo)
Spring Yard Zone (Demo)
Scrap Brain Zone (Demo)
Chemical Plant Zone (Demo)
Metropolis Zone (Demo)
Sky Chase Zone (Demo)



Naofumi Hataya

"If you are composer for game music, I think you should compose music for games: Interactive parts, overwhelming productions, expressions that have strong relationships with games. If you want to compose music just to appeal to yourself, I suggest working someplace else. I hope we can effect each other with our music."

Naofumi Hataya is one of Sega's longest running composers, having joined the company in 1990. He hasn't been one of the main composers on a Sonic game since the days of Sonic 2 8-bit and Sonic CD, but he still contributes a few tracks to the series here and there. Other major projects include NiGHTS, Burning Rangers, Space Channel 5, and Feel the Magic.

Scrambled Egg Zone
Quartz Quadrant
Stardust Speedway
Metallic Madness
Ocean Palace (Mario & Sonic 2012 Mix)
Area - Tropical Resort
Area - Terminal Velocity



Jun Senoue

"I picked the word “Crush” up because of my favorite soda drink and Johnny added “40″ onto the end. You will have to ask Johnny about other numbers!"

Love him or loathe him, Jun Senoue's been around Sega since Sonic 3 and doesn't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. He went on to be the sound director for every major Sonic game between 16-bit 3D Blast/Flickies' Island and Shadow the Hedgehog, and returned to the role for Black Knight, Sonic 4, and Generations. When he's not in the lead, he's in the background working on album releases, coordinating people for vocal tracks, and occasionally contributing his guitar skills to his coworker's music. In his earlier days he also worked on a number of sports and racing titles, which produced some interesting things like Sega music legend Takenobu Mitsuyoshi singing this track from Victory Goal '96.

Green Grove Act 1
Pleasure Castle ...for Twinkle Park
Sky Deck A Go! Go! ...for Sky Deck
Snowy Mountain ...for Icecap
Event: Let's Make It!
Casino Park - Original ver.
Prison Island



Mariko Nanba

"What I like, to make the game vivid with my sound design in total (or even designing the game in total). What I hate, to assign sound effects to the scenario (sometimes, simple sound-effect does good)."

Another 1993 hire, Mariko Nanba started off as one of the two composers on Knuckles' Chaotix, spent the next several years working on the likes of Panzer Dragoon Saga, Space Channel 5, and Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg, and then returned to the Sonic franchise in a big way as one of the main composers on Sonic '06 and Rush Adventure. She also composed most of the map themes for Colors, save for the two that Hataya did.

Circus Park
White Acropolis ~The Base~
Extras
Pirates' Island
Sea Map
Area - Sweet Mountain
Area - Starlight Carnival
Area - Planet Wisp
Area - Aquarium Park
Area - Asteroid Coaster



Fumie Kumatani

"I create music because I love music! When I create I first begin to think about the atmosphere and visualize the spectacle. I try to sing a song where the music is likely to start in the game."

Another one of Sega's veteran staff, having been with the company since 1991. She got started on the Sonic franchise with 1994's Sonic Triple Trouble, and has since had a major part in composing both Sonic Adventures, the first two Riders games, Secret Rings, and Unleashed. Non-Sonic work includes the likes of NiGHTS, Burning Rangers, and Phantasy Star Online. Her track record speaks for itself.

Theme of E-102γ
Crazy Robo
Bright Sound ...for Dry Lagoon
High and Broken
Blast Town
Windmill Isle - Night
Mazuri - Day
Empire City - Day
Empire City - Night



Kenichi Tokoi

"It is wonderful that many fans have been charmed by Sonic. I think that [the 10th anniversary] is a good opportunity to consider the evolution of the work and what can be done from now on. I appreciate the mastery and width of the expression that I have experienced through Sonic. Thank you Mr. Naka very much. I hope the Sonic series will celebrate 20th, 30th anniversary and I hope the future is connected with his creator."

After working on the music for a Daytona USA port in 1996, Kenichi Tokoi was first introduced to the Sonic series as the composer of some of Sonic Jam's original music. Since then he's been more frequently involved with the franchise than any of his coworkers, a lineup that consists of Sonic Adventure, Adventure 2, Battle, Advance 3, Riders, Secret Rings, Riders 2, Unleashed, and Colors. When he's not busy putting out series-defining Sonic tracks, he's been involved in Space Channel 5, Phantasy Star Online, and more recently Yakuza.

Mt. Red: A Symbol of Thrill ...for Red Mountain
Mechanical Resonance ...for Final Egg
Sealed Ground
Spagonia - Night
Dragon Road - Day
Shamar - Day
Arid Sands - Night
Jungle Joyride - Night
Sweet Mountain - Act 3
Planet Wisp - Act 3
Asteroid Coaster - Act 2
Terminal Velocity - Act 1



Tomoya Ohtani

"I want to join the project that is always striking out in a new direction."

Tomoya Ohtani is one of the sound team's comparatively recent hires, his first project being Chu Chu Rocket in 1999. He contributed a few tracks to Sonic Adventure 2 (most notably the Knuckles raps) and one to Heroes, but spent most of the first half of the 00's on projects like Space Channel 5 and Billy Hatcher. And then he wound up being the sound director for Sonic '06, emerging from obscurity to redefine what modern Sonic music could be after eight years of Senoue. He's since composed for Rush Adventure and returned as sound director for Unleashed and Colors. When Ohtani's in the lead, Good Things are coming.

Deeper ...for Death Chamber
Hang Castle
Wave Ocean ~The Water's Edge~
Radical Train ~The Chase~
Dusty Desert ~The Ruins~
Blizzard Peaks
Deep Core
Windmill Isle - Day
Cool Edge - Day
Rooftop Run - Night
The World Adventure - Piano ver.
Tropical Resort - Act 3
Starlight Carnival - Act 2
Aquarium Park - Act 1

And there are so many more. Masaru Setsumaru, Teruhiko Nakagawa, Hideaki Kobayashi, Yutaka Minobe, Tatsuyuki Maeda, Tomonori Sawada, Richard Jacques, Howard Drossin, the Michael Jackson-flavored enigma that is Sonic 3, any number of one-off composers like Yuzo Koshiro and Maki Morrow, a wide array of independent bands and artists, loads of supporting staff, the list just goes on and on and on. So the next time you finish a Sonic game, spare a moment of your attention during the credits for the sound staff, and know that the names there are some of the industry's best.

Special thanks to Pietepiet, Tizoc, Dark Schala & Sciz for contributions & ideas.
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No way? No way! (◡﹏◡✿)
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Moving the party over here
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SonicGAF Got Through Thread 2
Lightning Lord
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Oh boy, new thread!

And now we have Sonic's lovely face within the NeoGAF symbol.
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Quick this is the first page, someone say something profound.
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banner looks great

good job everyone with the OP
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It's happening. Wall of Shame:
Look who grabbed his Queen Cape again.
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Obligatory Sonic R OST and Doc Future Plays Sonic 1 Easy Mode for the first page.
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(12-07-2013, 04:59 AM)

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

It's happening. Wall of Shame;

wow that guy with the 2000 posts is sure crazy
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I squeezed in some last-minute edits to the OP. It's at full capacity ATM, so if anything huge or substantial comes out, then fuck if I know. :lol
TheOGB
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let's bulldoze qq more's post to make room for an addendum
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Originally Posted by TheOGB

let's bulldoze qq more's post to make room for an addendum

you know what


i could do that if you guys really want
Lightning Lord
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Guys, it may just be because of what the thread is named after, but my gut tells me this will be the best community topic ever. :)
Dark Schala
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Originally Posted by Meccanical

Quick this is the first page, someone say something profound.

It's 11 PM, I have a candle lit (and it smells like cinnamon), and I am playing Bravely Default, and it is one of the most elegantly-designed RPGs of recent memory.

Also Sonic After the Sequel's OST is the bomb. Play the game too.

(I'm reviewing SotY stuff while studying.)
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Originally Posted by BlackJace

SonicGAF Got Through Thread 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVtcycCzydY
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

It's 11 PM, I have a candle lit (and it smells like cinnamon), and I am playing Bravely Default, and it is one of the most elegantly-designed RPGs of recent memory.

Also Sonic After the Sequel's OST is the bomb. Play the game too.

(I'm reviewing SotY stuff while studying.)

I honestly feel that AtS is pretty high up there for SoTY. Arguably first place in fact!
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Wait, if it's Thread 2, wouldn't we just use this one?

Originally Posted by qq more

I honestly feel that AtS is pretty high up there for SoTY. Arguably first place in fact!

I don't think a lot of people have even heard the soundtrack and they'll probably vote for Killer Instinct or Final Fantasy XIII Lightning's Electric Boogaloo instead*.

*tbh, I have 2 of my top 3 decided already. Need to figure out the third. Lots of honourable mentions, though. Happy about that, since I felt last year was a major dud.
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Wait, if it's Thread 2, wouldn't we just use this one?

Well after thinking about it a bit more, since we got through the whole thread, I probably should've used this, followed by this.
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Crazybus should've been a 2013 title so I can vote it for my SoTY (`・ω・´)

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Final Fantasy XIII Lightning's Electric Boogaloo instead*.

That honestly sounds more interesting than the real deal
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i've been listening to a lot of david bowie music recently. i got into him back in march when his latest album, the next day, went on sale. the last month or so i caught up on what i was missing- mostly the mid-late 80s stuff that people agree aren't that good and everything except for the album, 'the buddha of suburbia' and 1967's 'david bowie'. lots of really good music there, but that's to be expected from 45 years to go through.

one song i kinda didn't like the first time was 'jump they say' off the 1993 album, black tie white noise. it was actually the single, and i don't know why, but it just didn't grab me. well, this time through i really got into it. it's a song about his brother terry, who jumped to his death. i like that the song becomes more hectic and crazy after a fairly calm (but already busy) start. the word 'jump' starts off stated normally, and increasingly becomes a scream towards the end of the song. it also reminded me of sonic cd's 'past!' and 'future!' vocals at certain parts. must have been a mid-90s thing.
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I think it may be because I'm in Dark Mode, but I can't see the word SONIC in the SonicGAF logo.
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AniHawk, how was the the 2013 album? He did a good job in that Arcade Fire song this year. Sounded soooo good. I always liked his vocal colour. (Edit: I can't read.)

Originally Posted by AniHawk

it also reminded me of sonic cd's 'past!' and 'future!' vocals at certain parts. must have been a mid-90s thing.

I see what you did there. Haha.

Speaking of which, trying to decide what my favourite 2013 albums are. I dunno about that MMLP2 yet. Daft Punk's gonna be up there, QotSA is going to be there, Arctic Monkeys, maybe... I didn't like the 20/20 Experience as much as I thought I would. It was disappointing after FS/LS. Probably wouldn't vote in that thread, but I just like thinking about it.

Oh, yeah. Sonic. Uh. I like vocal themes. Lost World's soundtrack was an attempt to return to an older style and thus was all instrumentals, but I do like some vocals every now and then. Even something tender like Dear My Friend would be neat. (I can't do this. :lol Talk about what you want, without feeling hindered or restrained or feeling the need to immediately tie it back to the series, because sometimes you just can't as the subject material's just different.)

Originally Posted by PhantomOfTheKnight

I think it may be because I'm in Dark Mode, but I can't see the word SONIC in the SonicGAF logo.

I'm in dark mode and can see it fine. If it were grey, it wouldn't stand out, maybe.

Unless someone wanted to change the black to blue or something like that.
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Originally Posted by PhantomOfTheKnight

I think it may be because I'm in Dark Mode, but I can't see the word SONIC in the SonicGAF logo.

Perhaps you need to adjust your monitor's display settings? I can see it fine on my end (using dark mode as well).
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GAF Dark here, I can see it perfectly.
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Woo new thread, got that new smell to it. Here's to many new and good sonic games (and games in general!)
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oh yeah, i own the next day. i had no idea he collaborated with arcade fire though. i absolutely have to check that out. i'm not a real big music guy, but reflektor has my interest.

some of my bowie recommendations on my travels thus far would be:

golden years (station to station - 1975)
a new career in a new town (low - 1977)
beauty and the beast ('heroes' - 1978)
red money (lodger - 1979)
teenage wildlife (scary monsters (and super creeps) - 1980)
modern love (let's dance - 1983)
loving the alien (tonight - 1984)
day in, day out (never let me down - 1987)
jump they say (black tie white noise - 1993)
strangers when we meet (outside - 1995)
i'm afraid of americans (earthling - 1997)
reality (reality - 2003)
the stars (are out tonight) (the next day - 2013)

i suspect we'll see a new sonic game this year. they have to space it out so there's something substantial in 2016 for the 25th anniversary.
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

It's happening. Wall of Shame:

Look who grabbed his Queen Cape again.

I never was good at games with leaderboards.
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Pretty sure I only listened to five new albums this year so my top 5 is pretty much by default. In rough order of preference they'd probably be:

David Bowie - The Next Day
Gabriella Cilmi - The Sting
She and Him - Volume 3
Lady Gaga - Artpop
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP 2

Probably some other stuff I need to listen to. I know there was a new Tegan and Sara earlier in the year that I never got to around to, there was new Panic at the Disco and I just found out Tarja Turunen has a new album but my impression of her solo stuff is that it's basically second rate Nightwish clone stuff trying to carry over the fanbase without Tuomas's songwriting.
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This will be the greatest of all OTs, and then it's all downhill from here.
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Is Artpop comparable to The Fame/Fame Monster?

Originally Posted by AniHawk

oh yeah, i own the next day. i had no idea he collaborated with arcade fire though. i absolutely have to check that out. i'm not a real big music guy, but reflektor has my interest.

Well, it's a very small cameo, so it may not be of interest, but he really seemed to like the song enough for him to say "hurry up and mix it or I'll take it myself".

Originally Posted by AniHawk

some of my bowie recommendations on my travels thus far would be:

I'm surprised you didn't list Ashes to Ashes or Life on Mars. Man Who Sold the World was also good.

Originally Posted by AniHawk

i suspect we'll see a new sonic game this year. they have to space it out so there's something substantial in 2016 for the 25th anniversary.

I wonder if it'll be building upon whatever was in Lost World, or if it might revisit some stuff from the Boost Trilogy. Or it could be another one-off like Sonic 4 was. Who knows.

...When's that mobile version of Sonic 2 coming out?

Originally Posted by Sciz

This will be the greatest of all OTs, and then it's all downhill from here.

When are we going to get to OT Unleashed/Colours/Generations?
Shadow Hog
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(12-07-2013, 06:32 AM)
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Casual page 1 reminder that Freedom Planet is a thing and is awesome.

It'll probably launch before we reach |OT4:Ep1|.
TheOGB
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(12-07-2013, 06:35 AM)
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|OT4| Let's pretend this one didn't happen
Dark Schala
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(12-07-2013, 06:45 AM)
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My favourite Sonic Christmas/holiday picture.
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(12-07-2013, 06:46 AM)
sonic left tails out in the cold

that bastard
Professor Beef
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(12-07-2013, 06:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sciz

This will be the greatest of all OTs, and then it's all downhill from here.

...oh fuck
Satch
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(12-07-2013, 06:48 AM)

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Is Artpop comparable to The Fame/Fame Monster?

its garbage

gaga will never make another Fame Monster ever again


shes finished
Razzer
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(12-07-2013, 06:49 AM)
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I have to say that listening to some of the music in the OP is very nice when gaming. I sort of make it a pseudo playlist whilst I play. Very nice.
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(12-07-2013, 06:49 AM)

Originally Posted by Professor Beef

...oh fuck

Can't wait for |OT 06| :)


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Box of Bunnies
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(12-07-2013, 06:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Is Artpop comparable to The Fame/Fame Monster?

I need to listen to it more but I thought it was okay. Kinda falls between Fame/Monster and Born This Way both stylistically and in terms of quality.

Originally Posted by Satch

its garbage

gaga will never make another Fame Monster ever again


shes finished

Very few people will ever make another Fame Monster. It's once in a career stuff.

Though since we're PopGAF for a minute I realised I haven't listened to Britney's new album yet either. Lost interest after Work Bitch was trash.
AniHawk
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(12-07-2013, 06:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

My favourite Sonic Christmas/holiday picture.

i think i first saw this in sonic gems collection or sonic mega collection. my sister and i laughed our asses off when we first saw it and it's become a favorite of ours since.
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(12-07-2013, 06:58 AM)
I remember a screensaver that came with hundreds of Sonic official artwork and this was one of them. It was from the Sonic & Knuckles Collection for PC.
Sciz
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(12-07-2013, 07:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

When are we going to get to OT Unleashed/Colours/Generations?

OT Generations is arguably already happening with a classic SonicGAFfer being thrust into the modern SonicGAF age.

Originally Posted by Dark Schala

My favourite Sonic Christmas/holiday picture.

I never can decide which is better, that Sonic is just leaving Tails locked out in the cold, or that he's going super by reading a book.

Originally Posted by Razzer

I have to say that listening to some of the music in the OP is very nice when gaming. I sort of make it a pseudo playlist whilst I play. Very nice.

It's the best of the best. I kinda wanna add some Lost World music to the end there, but the section already takes up half the OP and I think Beef would try to shiv me if I pad it out any further.

(also Nanba's Circus Park link still leads to Casino Park)
AniHawk
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(12-07-2013, 07:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

Is Artpop comparable to The Fame/Fame Monster?


Well, it's a very small cameo, so it may not be of interest, but he really seemed to like the song enough for him to say "hurry up and mix it or I'll take it myself".

that must have been really awesome. i really like the 'reflektor' single. i'll probably pick up the album too. i don't usually purchase albums on the whole anymore. aside from david bowie, i've only picked up four albums in the last two years i think (foo fighters, gorillaz, the naked and famous, and childish gambino).

I'm surprised you didn't list Ashes to Ashes or Life on Mars. Man Who Sold the World was also good.

oh they're up there for me too, but i was trying to keep my list relatively small, or else i'd recommend everything from low, heroes, scary monsters (and super creeps) and more. i also wanted to point out some of the lesser-known stuff, which mostly comes from his post-labrynth days for americans (he's been popular in the uk a long time). life on mars? is actually one of the songs i try to imitate, but can not really nail down.

I wonder if it'll be building upon whatever was in Lost World, or if it might revisit some stuff from the Boost Trilogy. Or it could be another one-off like Sonic 4 was. Who knows.

wasn't some of the staff behind generations curiously missing for lost worlds? i wonder if they're busy doing a bigger project.

lost worlds. man. there's a game i'd like to know more about behind the scenes. i have the feeling the story of that one is a lot like nights 2.
Dark Schala
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(12-07-2013, 07:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by qq more

sonic left tails out in the cold

that bastard

You'd do the same thing if you had to listen to this all day. No thanks. Sonic did the right thing.

Originally Posted by Satch

its garbage

gaga will never make another Fame Monster ever again


shes finished

Aw. Fame Monster was so solid, but I guess that was a "once in a career" sort of things, unless she changes it up or reigns it in or something. I bet BTW did better than Artpop too, which'd be disappointing going by what Box of Bunnies said.

(PS: Late, but congrats on your engagement!)

Originally Posted by Box of Bunnies

Lost interest after Work Bitch was trash.

That's legit one of her worst songs. I don't listen to Top 40 that often, but when I did and that came on, oh lawd. Awful. So terrible.
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(12-07-2013, 07:05 AM)
That reminds me... what was the deal with NiGHTs 2? Never played it, but I've rarely ever heard anyone liking the game, so what was the issues the game had?
Box of Bunnies
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(12-07-2013, 07:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala

My favourite Sonic Christmas/holiday picture.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/r0yra3H.png[IMG]

While Sonic and Tails enjoy a white Christmas, Knuckles is stuck with the beating Summer heat. At least the Floating Island has the Boxing Day Test for him to enjoy.
Professor Beef
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(12-07-2013, 07:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sciz

It's the best of the best. I kinda wanna add some Lost World music to the end there, but the section already takes up half the OP and I think Beef would try to shiv me if I pad it out any further.

(also Nanba's Circus Park link still leads to Casino Park)

I already had to cut out 4 songs just to make room.

Give me the link to Circus Park and I'll edit it in.
AniHawk
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(12-07-2013, 07:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by qq more

That reminds me... what was the deal with NiGHTs 2? Never played it, but I've rarely ever heard anyone liking the game, so what was the issues the game had?

nights 2 lost most of the arcadey elements that made the first game really replayable, but it was also hampered by pacing issues- namely between nights levels there were dumb exploration segments as the kids just running around and collecting things.

the nights segments are still pretty good though. i never went back to it, but i suppose i should give it another shot now that it's six years later.
Sciz
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(12-07-2013, 07:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Professor Beef

I already had to cut out 4 songs just to make room.

Give me the link to Circus Park and I'll edit it in.

This one.

Go ahead and cut the parenthetical at the end of her section too, two years is probably enough to get the point across.

edit: For OT4, split it across two posts and name them Episodes 1 and 2.

...I don't know how to incorporate Episode Metal.

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